* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. THANK YOU SO VERY [00:00:01] MUCH FOR JOINING US FOR OUR WORKSHOP ON TODAY, JUNE 9TH, 2025. THE MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. ROLL CALL. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MADAM CLERK. MAYOR EDWARDS PHILLIPS, VICE MAYOR. SWELL PRESENT. COMMISSIONER HARRISON. COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER THOMAS, PRESENT, ACTING CITY MANAGER HOWARD. PRESENT. CITY ATTORNEY CALLAWAY. PRESENT. MADAM MAYOR, WE HAVE A QUORUM. HOLD ON A MOMENT. THIS THING IS CRAZY AGAIN, MAYOR. MY BAD, MY THANK YOU SO MUCH MADAM CLERK. [REVIEW OF THE JUNE 10, 2025 CITY COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA] ITEM THREE, DISCUSSION REVIEW OF THE JUNE 10TH, 2025 SESSION. CITY COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA. MADAM MANAGER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ITEM FIVE A. MICHAEL. OKAY, ITEM FIVE A. WE WILL TURN OURSELVES TO THE WORKSHOP AGENDA ITEM THREE, DISCUSSION, WHICH IS A REVIEW OF THE JUNE 10TH, 2025 CITY COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA. OKAY. AND ITEM EIGHT A. WE'RE AT CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCES ON FIRST READING. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH EIGHT. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. MADAM MANAGER, YOUR MIC ON? YES, IT IS GOING THROUGH. CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME IN THE AUDIO? NO. NOT CLEAR. NO, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT LOUD ON THE DESK. I HEAR YOU, BUT NOT LOUDLY. TESTING TEXAN. YEAH, I DON'T, DIDN'T FEEL THAT I WAS, BUT I WASN'T SURE IT IS. OH, TESTING. MUCH BETTER. THANK YOU. ITEM EIGHT A ORDINANCE 2025 DASH EIGHT. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO SIGNAGE, AMENDING CHAPTER NINE OF THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. REVISING SECTION 9 0 3 DEFINITIONS TO UPDATE THE DEFINITION OF SNIPE. SIGN AND ADD DEFINITIONS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER PERSON PUBLIC PROPERTY, CREATING NEW SUBSECTIONS. 9 1 1 DASH TWO DASH 9 1 1 DASH TWO FOUR TO ESTABLISH PURPOSE AND INTENT, PROHIBITED CO CONDUCT ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS, PENALTIES, APPEALS AND EXEMPTIONS. MAD MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. TANJA MCCOY. I'M LOOKING IN THE AUDIENCE. WILL, SHE'S THERE. I THOUGHT I SAW HER. SHE'S THERE SHE IS. PRESENT THIS ITEM THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU MS. MCCOY. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSION MICHAEL AND MS. TANJA. I'M SORRY, IS THE MIC ON? CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT. MADAM MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR, CITY COMMISSION, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY CLERK. I AM HERE TO PRESENT THIS ITEM RELATED TO THE, UH, CHAPTER NINE SIGN ORDINANCE, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY UPDATING THE ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE, UH, ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO, UH, BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, GIVE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ADDITIONAL TOOLS TO ENFORCE THE SNIPE SIGN CODE. THIS WILL ALLOW US TO, UM, REQUIRE THAT THE SNIPE SIGN ORDINANCE, IT WILL NOW BE AMENDED SO THAT ANY SNIPE SIGNS THAT WE FIND IN OUR CITY WILL BE ATTACHED TO THAT BUSINESS OWNER. AND THOSE OWNERS ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GO AFTER IN RELATIONSHIP TO ADDITIONAL FINES AND FEES THAT WE HAVE, UM, PRESENTED IN THIS ORDINANCE TODAY. MADAM MAYOR. MADAM VICE MAYOR? YES. MS. WHAT ABOUT POLITICAL SIGNS? WHEN THE TIME COMES WHEN PEOPLE ARE RUNNING FOR ELECTION, HOW WILL THAT BE TREATED UNDER THIS ORDINANCE? MS. THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, UNDER THIS ORDINANCE, THOSE SIGNS WILL BE EXEMPT FROM THIS PORTION OF THE ORDINANCE. THIS PORTION OF THE ORDINANCE IS SPECIFIC TO SNIPE SIGNS, WHICH WE RECOGNIZE AS SIGNS THAT ARE POSTED FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADVERTISING A BUSINESS OF THAT SOMEONE WHO IS DOING BUSINESS OUTSIDE OR INSIDE THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES. MADAM MAYOR, TOO. POLITICAL COMMISSIONER THOMAS. [00:05:02] THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. MS. TANJA, UM, STAYING WITH THE POLITICAL SIGNS, I KNOW IN SOME CITIES IF I POST MY SIGN THERE'S A PARTICULAR AREA WHERE I CAN POST A SIGN, BUT I HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE MY SIGN POSTED IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. HOW IS THAT TREATED IN LAUDERDALE LAKES? THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR? UH, IN THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES, WE DO NOT CHARGE A FEE FOR POSTING POLITICAL SIGNS. THERE'S A PERIOD OF TIME IN WHICH POLITICAL SIGNS ARE ALLOWED PRIOR TO THE ELECTION AND AFTER THE ELECTION, THEY HAVE TO BE REMOVED. MADAM MAAM? MADAM VICE ? MM-HMM . MS. TANJA, YOU SAID THAT POLITICAL SIGNS ARE ALLOWED, BUT ON CITY PROPERTY OR OUTSIDE OF CITY PROPERTY, POLITICAL SIGNS ARE ONLY ALLOWED IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY DURING ELECTION PERIODS. WHAT COULD YOU EX EXPOUND AND TELL ME WHAT IS THE RIGHT OF WAY IN LAUDERDALE LAKES? THE LAUDER, THE LAUDERDALE LAKES RIGHT OF WAY, A ROAD THAT THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES ARE THE OWNER OF, AND THEY ARE USUALLY OUTLINED WITHIN A CERTAIN WIDTH OF THE ROAD. SO YOU WILL SEE THE, UH, RIGHT OF WAY BEING THE SIDEWALK AND THE GRASS STRIP BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE DR, UH, DRIVE AISLES. SO AGAIN, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR. SO WHY DURING ELECTION TIME IF WE POST A POLITICAL SIGN ON THE SWALE, THEY ARE REMOVED? COULD YOU EX THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR? YES. UM, I RE I WAS HERE FOR A SMALL PORTION OF THE ELECTION PERIOD, BUT I DO REMEMBER THAT SOME OF THE SIGNS WERE NOT ACCORDING TO THE SIZE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ALLOWED AND THOSE ARE THE SIGNS THAT WERE BEING REMOVED. OKAY. COULD AGAIN, AGAIN, MADAM MAYOR. MAYOR. YEAH. MADAM VICE MAYOR. COULD YOU, FOR THE RECORD, COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT ARE THE SIZE OF THE SCIENCE? BECAUSE NORMALLY MOST POLITICAL SCIENCE TEND TO BE THE SAME BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE WHO MAKE THEM, AND I'VE SEEN THEM CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS TAKE THEM, TAKE THEM OVER TO YORK SIDE OVER THERE, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GO THERE AND RETRIEVE IT. SO I'M NOT AWARE OF THE SIZE AND I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. SO WILL YOU, IF YOU CAN'T, IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE SIZE, WILL YOU COME BACK AND LET US KNOW THE SIZE THAT IS ALLOWED IN ON, IN THE CITY, UH, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR? YES. I WILL HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT INFORMATION AND BRING THAT REPORT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU, MA'AM. MATTER MAYOR, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE NEED TO PUT IN PROVISIONS ABOUT POLITICIAN SIGNS. 'CAUSE LAST ELECTION THEY WERE ALL OVER THE PLACE. CERTAIN PERSONS NOT NAMING CALL A NAMES. DISRESPECT OUR CITY WITH IT ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND IT, I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN NEXT YEAR. SO WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING WRITTEN WHERE IT NEED TO BE THE FINES, PICKING THEM UP, CHARGING OR SOMETHING. BUT WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT WHERE THE SIGNS NEED TO BE OR IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A FEE NEED TO BE CHARGED OR SOMETHING. BUT WE DO NOT WANT THAT NEXT FOR, FOR 2026 COMING. SO WE GOTTA WORK ON, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES HOW THEIR RULES ARE AND KIND OF MIMIC THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO INVENT THE WHEEL 'CAUSE IT'S ALREADY THERE AND JUST TWIST IT UP, TURN IT TO US. BUT WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE. 'CAUSE A LOT OF DISRESPECT AND WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE IT ON 2026. COMMISSIONER THOMAS. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UM, MS. TANJA, I KNOW THAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT, UM, SOME KIND OF FEE WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS EARLY. WILL THERE BE A FEE FOR THESE SNIPES, UM, THAT ARE PICKED UP? HOW DOES THAT WORK? PLEASE? THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. YES. THE FEE WILL ESCALATE. IT STARTS AT A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE FIRST, UM, INCIDENT WITH THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS. A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER SIGN, AND THEN IT ESCALATES UP THROUGH ONE 50 FOR THE NEXT EVENT. AND THEN 300 AND 500 IS THE FINAL AMOUNT THAT THEY WOULD BE CHARGED PER SIGN IF THEY CONTINUE TO VIOLATE THE POLICY. THE CODE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UM, TANJA, [00:10:01] I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE POLITICAL SIGNS AS WELL. UM, I KNOW LAST ELECTION CYCLE, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THE BIGGEST PART IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE RULES ON THE BOOKS THAT OFTEN AREN'T ENFORCED. WE CAN COME UP WITH NEW RULES, BUT IF THIS IS NOT GONNA BE ENFORCED, THEN WHAT'S REALLY THE POINT? YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THIS LAST ELECTION CYCLE, THERE WAS A LOT OF RULES THAT WERE BROKEN, BUT MORE DISTURBING. THERE WAS RULES THAT WEREN'T ENFORCED. SO I, I KNOW YOU WEREN'T HERE AT THE TIME AND AND WHATNOT, BUT I THINK THAT'S A BIG THING. UM, I TOO WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SEPARATION BETWEEN POLITICAL VERSUS THESE ADVERTISEMENTS THAT ARE THE REAL ISSUE. UM, UH, HOWEVER AGGRESSIVE WE CAN BE, UH, TOWARDS THESE SNIPE SIGNS. UM, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO SEE, I DON'T, I I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY SHARE THE SAME SENTIMENT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THESE BUSINESS SIGNS AFFECT PEOPLE'S POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS. SO HOWEVER WE CAN SEPARATE THE TWO I, I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD THING. MS. TANJA, I WAS LOOKING IN THE BACKUP, THE DOLLAR FIGURES THAT YOU SPOKE OF ASSOCIATED WITH VIOLATIONS. IS IT IN THE BACKUP OR DID I? NO, I'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. MADAM MAYOR. THROUGH YOU. MADAM MAYOR? YES MA'AM. I'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THERE FOR YOU. OKAY. AND THE FINES WILL START TO ACCRUE AFTER NOTIFICATION OF THE FIRST VIOLATION THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR? YES. AFTER NOTIFICATION OF THE FIRST VIOLATION. UM, I WILL SAY THAT THE POLICY THAT I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING WITH THE CITY IS AS WE BRING ON, UM, INCREASED ENFORCEMENT OR NEW ENFORCEMENT, IS TO PROVIDE COURTESY NOTICING TO START WITH. AND THEN AFTER THAT, START TO, UH, DO THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION AND ACCRUE THE FINES. SO IT WILL, UNTIL A COURTESY NOTICE, UH, PHILLIPS ADVERTISING, PLEASE REMOVE YOUR ADVERTISEMENT SIGNS. IT'S NOT ALLOWED. AND YOU WILL QUOTE TO THEM IN THE WRITTEN INFORMATION, UM, OUR, OUR INFORMATION. THEN IF IT OCCURS A SECOND TIME, IS THAT WHEN THE VIOLATION BEGINS THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR? YES. THAT'S WHEN THEY WILL RECEIVE A ACTUAL NOTICE OF VIOLATION. THEY WILL HAVE 30 DAYS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, STOP THE ACTIVITY AND THEN AFTER THAT THEY WILL MOVE FORWARD TO MAGISTRATE HEARING AND ON TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN ENFORCE THE FINES. WHERE WE CAN AND WHERE WE WILL WELL, WE WILL ENFORCE THE FINES. . MAD MAYOR. MAD INVEST MY HEAD. I'M SORRY, BUT, UM, SHE ANSWERED BECAUSE I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT TIME. 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST SEND THEM BLINDLY AND DON'T GIVE THEM A TIMEFRAME. HOW MANY DAYS YOU SAID THIS, WHAT? 30 DAYS THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR? YES. IT'LL BE A 30 DAY PROCESS. YOU ANSWERED IT. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. POINT OF REFERENCE MADAM MAYOR. IT'S, UM, FOR THE, THE FINES. SIX OF EIGHT. SIX OF EIGHT UNDER ORDINANCE. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YOU CAN CONTINUE ON. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. YOU CAN CONTINUE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. SANJA? THANK YOU MS. SANJA. THANK YOU. ITEM EIGHT B ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 0 0 9 OF THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING AND PROVEN APPLICATION. ZERO FOUR DASH TA DASH 25 AND ADOPTING THE 2050 LAUDERDALE LAKES COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ADOPTING THE 2024 EVALUATION APPRAISAL REPORT HERE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PROVIDING FOR EAR BASE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO ALL APPLICABLE ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, INCLUDING THE ADDITION OF A NEW PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT AND UPDATES THE CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENTS, COPIES OF WHICH ARE SET FORTH IN THE ATTACHED EXHIBIT A, PROVIDING FOR ADOPTION OF RECITALS, PROVIDING FOR TRANSMITTAL OF TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND OTHER APPLICABLE REVIEW AND AGENCIES IN ACCORDANCE WITH PART TWO OF CHAPTER 1 63. FLORIDA STATUTES MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER TANJA MCCOY WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM. TANJA MADAM MAYOR. UH, JUST TO NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER HARRISON IS IN ATTENDANCE. SO IN MADAM MAYOR, UM, MADAM VICE MAYOR, CITY COMMISSION, CITY CLERK, CITY ATTORNEY, I'M HERE AGAIN TO PRESENT THE ITEM FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE, UH, LOOKED AT THIS ITEM DURING OUR WORKSHOP AGENDA ITEM ON MAY 27TH, IN WHICH WE WERE GIVEN A PRESENTATION RELATED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A PLAN WHICH THE CITY IS, UM, RESPONSIBLE FOR SUBMITTING TRANSMITTING TO THE STATE AGENCY IN BROWARD COUNTY. WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD IN, UM, SUPPLYING THIS PLAN TO THE STATE AGENCY IN BROWARD [00:15:01] COUNTY IN ORDER TO COME IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THE STATE AND COUNTY REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND USE MAP AMENDMENTS. QUESTION. COMMISSIONER THOMAS. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UM, AND JUST TO REITERATE, MS UM, MS. TANJA, WE ARE SUBMITTING THIS WITH HOPES THAT WE DON'T GET ANY CORRECTIONS RIGHT THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR? YES. THIS IS OUR FIRST, UH, TRANSMITTAL SINCE OUR LAST, UH, ORG REPORT, WHICH GA CAME BACK AND GAVE US SOME CORRECTIONS THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE. AND THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST TRANSMITTAL OF THESE, UH, CORRECTED INFORMATION BACK TO THE STATE AGENCY AND TO BROWARD COUNTY. MS. TANJA, I'M LOOKING AT, THIS IS JUST AN OBSERVATION, UH, TABLE XX, WHERE IT INDICATES THE PROJECTED POPULATION OF THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES FROM 2025. WE'RE BASICALLY NOW AT 38,961. SO IN 25 YEARS, THE PROJECTION IS ONLY FOR 49,124 RESIDENTS FOR THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES. THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR? YES. THE PROJECTION IS, UM, SMALL BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE ARE MOSTLY BUILT OUT AND, UM, THESE ARE THE PROJECTIONS THAT'S COMING THROUGH THE, UM, AGENCY THAT DOES ALL OF THE CALCULATIONS AND CRUNCHES FOR THESE TYPE OF NUMBERS. AND IT'S THE BEAR REPORT THAT THEY USE. AND THROUGH THAT REPORT, THEY IDENTIFY HOW MANY RESIDENTS WILL COME INTO THE COUNTY AND THOSE RESIDENTS WILL ALSO IDENTIFY IT AS TO EACH CITY THOSE RESIDENTS WILL ACTUALLY RESIDE IN. SO ALTHOUGH BROWARD COUNTY HAS LOTS OF ROOM TO GROW, THE CITY OF LAU, DALE LAKES ITSELF AT THIS CURRENT STATE DOES NOT HAVE A LOT OF ROOM TO GROW. SO YES, OUR NUMBERS ARE SOMEWHAT SMALL, CONSIDERED IT'S A 25 YEAR PERIOD. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN OUCH BECAUSE IT TAKES US JUST BELOW 50,000 FOR BEING AN ENTITLEMENT CITY. SO THAT'S REALLY AN OUCH. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MS. TANJA. THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE GROWTH THROUGH SOME REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE CAN HAVE OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS. SO WE WILL BE LOOKING TO DO, UM, SOME UPDATES TO THAT INFORMATION TO GET US TO THAT NUMBER. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MS. TANJA. THANK YOU MADAM. YES, MADAM MANAGER. ITEM 10, A CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS ON REGULAR AGENDA RESOLUTION 2025 DASH SEVEN EIGHT AUTHORIZING AND A APPRO CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES SUPPORT JOINT COLLABORATION AND CO-HOSTING OF SPRAY, THE WORLD COMMUNITY DAY PLAY DAY EVENT. UM, THIS RESO THIS ITEM IS BEING SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER EASTON HARRISON. COMMISSIONER HARRISON. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UH, WE DISCUSSED THIS ITEM A FEW TIMES ALREADY. THIS IS A COMMUNITY, UH, PLAY EVENT, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY OF RESIDENTS. UH, YOU GUYS HAVE A PASS OUT IN FRONT OF YOU. THE DATE HAS BEEN CHANGED TO JULY 26TH, AND THAT'S NOT BECAUSE OF THE ORGANIZER OR ANYTHING. WE REALIZED THERE WAS A CONFLICT OF SCHEDULE WITH THE PREVIOUS RESERVE DATE. SO, UM, WORKED WITH THE ORGANIZER, MYSELF AND THE CITY TO FIND A NEW DATE, WHICH WE SET ON JULY 26TH, WHICH ACTUALLY IS NOT A BAD THING, GIVES US MORE TIME, BUT, UM, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS RAISED LAST TIME. UH, WE HAVE THE ORGANIZER SCHEDULED TO COME AND SPEAK TOMORROW. UH, HOWEVER THE CONVERSATION IS THE SAME. THE PARTNERSHIP REQUEST SECTION IS WHAT, UH, VIA ME AND THE ORGANIZER, WHAT WE'RE ASKING OF THE CITY TO SUPPORT. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION OF, OF COURSE, THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF, UH, SOUTH PROMO. SO AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING SLATED TO BE, UH, SHE'S ONLINE. OH, EVEN BETTER. SO YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM HER. MS. JESSICA, UM, AGAIN, SHE'S GONNA ECHO EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT I KNOW, UH, COLLEAGUES WANTED TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM HER. SO, UH, THROUGH YOU, THROUGH THE, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, IF THE, UM, INTERIM CITY MANAGER CAN BRING HER ONLINE TO SPEAK. SO MINE NOW PERMISSION. I WAS TOLD SHE'S ONLINE. YES. YES. UM, CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? YES. YES. ALRIGHT. UM, AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONER, CITY MANAGER, CITY STAFF. UM, I WANTED TO, I'M SORRY, LET ME TURN ON MY CAMERA. OH, I GUESS I CAN'T, SORRY. UM, I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SPRAY OF THE WORLD COMMUNITY DAY THAT YOU MAY HAVE. UM, AS COMMISSIONER EASTON STATED, THIS WOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OUR COMPANY, OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, AS WELL AS THE CITY. AND COMMISSIONER EASTON. YOU JUST WANNA PROVIDE A FREE FUND BASED TO THE COMMUNITY, THE GIVES IN THE COMMUNITY OR TWO PARTY EVENT. ONE PART WOULD BE A FIELD DAY [00:20:01] EVENT, UM, AND LIKE A COMPETITION. THE SECOND PART WOULD BE MORE OF A OPEN MIC. JUST PLAY, ALLOW, UM, THE YOUTH TO COME ON STAGE AND PERFORM. AND WE JUST WANNA BASICALLY CREATE A FUN EVENT OR A FUN DAY JUST TO GET THE KIDS OUT OF THE HOUSE, GET THEM OFF THEIR ELECTRONICS AND BRING THEM OUTSIDE JUST FOR A FUN DAY. A FUN FREE DAY THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. SO WITH ALL OF THIS EVENT, THERE'S, UM, PER IT'S NOT UP. HELLO? YEAH. UM, THERE ARE PERMANENT FEES THAT ARE REQUIRED. AND ARE YOU GONNA BE PAYING ALL THESE FEES THAT ARE REQUIRED? UM, I GUESS I WOULD NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHICH FEES YOU'RE SPEAKING OF. MADAM MAYOR. HOLD ON A MOMENT, COMMISSIONER. NO PROBLEM. UH, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. YEAH, BUT, UM, ASSISTANT WITH CONFIRMING, RIGHT? SO THE ONE, THE PART THAT SAYS ASSISTANT WITH CONFIRMING THE EVENT LOCATION. OKAY. WHAT, WHAT, WHERE WE GOING TO HAVE IT? THE, IS IT LAUDERDALE LAKES RECREATION PARK? I THINK THAT'S THE VINCENT TORRES. VINCENT TORRES. RIGHT. SO USUALLY WHEN WE ARE DOING STUFF, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE FOOD TRUCKS, IF THERE'S GONNA BE CERTAIN THINGS THERE, THEY'RE GONNA REQUIRE PERMITS AND, AND THEIR FEES TO THE PERMIT. UM, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW WHO WOULD BE COVERING THAT COST. WOULD IT BE THE CITY OR WOULD IT BE, UM, WHAT IS IT CALLED? SOUTH PROMO. OKAY. UM, SO WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY TO COVER THE PERMIT FEES WE'RE COVERING THE EVENT INSURANCE OURSELVES AND ALL OF THE MOVING ASPECTS THAT COME FROM THE OUTSIDE, LIKE PROVIDING THE FREE RESOURCES TO THOSE, ATTENDING THE FOOD, THE ACTIVITIES AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH IT, INCLUDING THE MARKETING. WE WERE LOOKING TO HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY WHERE IT WOULD COVER ANY CITIES, ANY CITY FEES, PERMITS, UM, POLICE AND FIRE. BUT WE WOULD ALSO WANT LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO BE THERE TO LIKE, BRING THE TRUCK, ALLOW THE KIDS TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE TRUCK AND ON THE TRUCK. AND SAME THING WE WOULD WANT WITH THE LOCAL POLICE TO HAVE THEM UP THERE AS WELL. KIND OF LIKE MEET THOSE WHO POLICE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE WOULD WANNA HAVE ORGANIZATIONS THERE AS WELL THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. OKAY. SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I THOUGHT THIS WASN'T GONNA COST THE CITY ANYTHING EXCEPT, UM, AND SO THIS IS GONNA COST US, 'CAUSE I, I AM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT EQUIPMENTS AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING OUT THAT GOING TO REQUIRE PERMIT. SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR US TO PAY ALL THOSE COSTS IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S A FEE. AND THEN OF COURSE OUR ENFORCEMENT IS NOT FREE. SO YOU'RE ASKING US TO PAY FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE PRESENT. UM, YES, BUT AGAIN, WE, WHEN I HAVEN'T SEEN THE FEES AS OF YET. UM, BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO COVER ON OUR END, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO. MAD MAYOR. OKAY. COMMISSIONER, ADD COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS WILL BE FINISHED FOR NOW. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HARRISON? NO, I'M SORRY. THROUGH YOUR MADAM MAYOR, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THROUGH COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS, IF SHE HAS ANY MORE. I JUST ASKED HER THAT. I'M, I'M, SHE DOESN'T, OKAY, I'M ASKING THAT. THANK YOU . UM, WE HAD A WORKSHOP, OUR LAST WORKSHOP MEETING. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. WE HAD THE FIRE CHIEF COME UP AND SAID HE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE COSTS. AND WE HEARD FROM BSO CAPTAIN THAT WE SHOULD NEED ABOUT TWO DEPUTIES AND THAT SHOULD BE VERY LITTLE TO NO COST, IF NOT, PROBABLY ALREADY. UH, HE WAS GONNA GET BACK TO US WITH MORE DETAILS ON THAT SO WE COULD ASK THEM. BUT, UH, AND YOU EVEN HEARD FROM THE ORGANIZER, IT IS NO INTENTION TO MAKE THIS COST THE CITY ANYTHING. IT IS A FREE EVENT FOR THE CITY. I KNOW LAST TIME, MADAM MAYOR, YOU ASKED WHAT WOULD BE THE COST OF STAFF JUST BEING THERE. AND THAT QUESTION STILL HASN'T BEEN ASKED, BUT THE THINGS WE DID ANSWER, WE ALREADY ASKING AGAIN. SO THE FIRE CHIEF SAID THAT HE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE COST AND BSO SAID IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE NO MORE THAN TWO DEPUTIES. THESE ARE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, FINISH. COMMISSIONER HARRISON? YEAH, I'M DONE. YOU FINISH, COMMISSIONER? YES. YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. EVEN IF WE TALKED ABOUT IT. ASHLEY WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. UM, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH WE ASKING THE QUESTION AGAIN TO BE, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON, ARE YOU TALKING TO THE COMMISSIONER? COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS? UM, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH WE TALK, ASKING THE QUESTIONS AGAIN TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. SO IF I HAVE TO ASK A QUESTION 10 TIMES TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING, SO BE IT. THANK YOU. I STILL HAVE THE QUESTION THAT I HAD THE PREVIOUS TIME. MADAM MANAGER, ABOUT THE PROJECTED COST OF STAFF, THE DOLLAR FIGURE OF COST OF STAFF. MAY I BRING POSSIBLY ERICA LOCKETT. IT DEPENDS UPON [00:25:01] HOW MUCH STAFF WOULD BE NEEDED TO ASSIST WITH THE EVENT AND MAYBE SHE CAN CLEAR UP SOME AND ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS. MADAM MAYOR. MS. LOCKETT? YES. ERICA. MS. LOCKETT? GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR. MADAM VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONER, CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY CLERK FOR THE RECORD. ERICA LOCKETT, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND HUMAN SERVICES THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. I DON'T HAVE THOSE FIGURES, BUT IF WE WERE TO EQUATE IT TO A FEST, IT WAS ROUGHLY ABOUT $26,000. UM, BECAUSE THAT'S PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS. SO WE DON'T KNOW THE BEFORE, THE, DURING AND AFTER, WHAT THE EVENT IS GONNA LOOK LIKE. AND I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK SO I CAN DO SOME RESEARCH AND GET BACK TO YOU TOMORROW. UM, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE FIGURES RIGHT NOW. COULD WE ALSO, AND I'M NOT SURE THIS IS, IS IN, IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, HAVE A PROJECTION OF PERMITTING COSTS? MADAM MANAGER? OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. HOLD ON A MOMENT. NO PROBLEM. MADAM VICE MAYOR. MS. ERICA PROJECTION OF $26,000 FOR OVERTIME. IT WOULD BE FOR OVERTIME BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF STAFF, SO THAT'S WHY THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. I'M SORRY. YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER HARRISON. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UM, MS. LOCKETT, WHAT ARE THE VARIABLES THAT YOU NEED TO GET A PROJECTION OF WHAT THIS EVENT WOULD BE? THIS WON'T BE A FEST SCALE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 200 PEOPLE, UM, AT ANY GIVEN TIME THROUGHOUT THE DAY. SO WHAT, WHAT VARIABLES ARE YOU LOOKING FORWARD TO IN ORDER TO CREATE THIS PROJECTION THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR? I'M JUST LOOKING TO SEE, UM, THE HOURS, WHAT MANPOWER WOULD BE NEEDED, BECAUSE OF COURSE YOU NEED MAINTENANCE STAFF, OF COURSE YOU'RE GONNA NEED PARK RANGERS, YOU'RE GONNA NEED REC STAFF. SO I JUST NEED TO AND, UM, PUBLIC WORKS. SO I JUST NEED TO BACK INTO A NUMBER. MADAM MAYOR. WHAT? SORRY? A NUMBER WITH WHAT YOU SAID BACK INTO A NUMBER. LIKE WITH WHAT? BACK INTO THE NUMBER OF STAFF WE, THROUGH MADAM MAYOR, BACK INTO THE NUMBER OF STAFF WE WOULD NEED BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. SO I, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. SORRY. MS. LOCKETT IS, IS 200 PEOPLE WE'RE PLANNING TO ATTEND. DID YOU RECEIVE ONE OF THESE HANDOUTS ABOUT THE EVENT? NO. NO MA'AM. MADAM MAYOR? NO, I DID NOT. MADAM MAYOR. YES. YOUR, WE'VE BEEN WORKSHOPPING THIS ITEM FOR TWO, THREE TIMES OVER TWO, THREE MONTHS AND WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE QUESTIONS THAT DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION AND I'M SUPPOSED TO BE HERE ADVOCATING FOR ONE OF MY INITIATIVES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER THOMAS. MAD MAYOR, HOLD ON. COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. COMMISSIONER, NOT A QUESTION. THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT MS. ERICA, NOT A QUESTION. UM, I KNOW THE LAST TIME. OH, COMMISSIONER HARRISON, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. I I KNOW THE LAST TIME I HAD SPOKEN WITH FORMER CITY MANAGER, UM, CAN WE LOOK AT STAGGERED IN, UM, IF THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT? DO YOU BAT A MAYOR? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MAYOR. COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. YEAH, SO ALSO WE NEED TO FIND OUT FROM, UH, THIS ORGANIZATION, ARE THEY, ARE YOU PLANNING TO HAVE FOOD TRUCKS? ARE THEY PLANNING TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE SETUP? BECAUSE TO FIND OUT HOW HOW MANY FOOD TRUCK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE EACH OF THEM REQUIRE, UM, PERMITS AND FIRE TO CHECK. SO ALL OF THAT NEED TO, YOU KNOW, RIDE INTO THAT BUDGET. MADAM MAYOR, MR. HARRISON, THANK YOU. UM, ALL OF THE DETAILS FOR THE EVENT AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GONNA BE INCLUDED IN THIS EVENT IS ON THIS HANDOUT. EVERYTHING, WHETHER YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT FOOD TRUCKS OR ANYTHING ELSE. THE SECOND THING IS, THIS WILL NOT BE THE SIZE OF A FEST OR PROJECTED TO BE, BUT EVERYTHING IS IN HERE. FIRE HAS ALREADY COMMITTED THAT THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THE COST, THE FOOD TRUCKS, THEY NEED FIRE TO INSPECT. SO THAT QUESTION KEEPS COMING UP. THE ANSWER KEEPS COMING UP TOO, BUT THE QUESTION KEEPS COMING UP AGAIN. THE FOOD TRUCKS NEED FIRE TO INSPECT THEM. FIRE SAID THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE AN ANSWER FOR THAT TOO. SO, YOU KNOW, SO DO YOU MIND IN THERE? EXCUSE ME. COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HARRISON. CONTINUE. I'M, I'M SORRY. NO, NO. UM, YOU CAN MAD MAYOR, ARE YOU FINISHED? I'M FINISHED, YES. COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. CANNOT STOP US FROM ASK. LET ME TALK. UH, UM, WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO ASK QUESTIONS AND IF WE WANT TO REPEAT AND ASK THE [00:30:01] QUESTION OVER TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING, THAT IS OUR GIVEN. RIGHT? SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY THIS IS HAPPENING. 'CAUSE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK ANY OTHER MADAM MAYOR, MR. HARRISON. I THINK IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. I THINK THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS. YES MA'AM. OF COURSE YOU HAVE ANSWER. JUST A MOMENT. JUST A MOMENT. MADAM VICE MAYOR. OKAY, MS. ERICA, WHEN IS YOUR RESOURCE FAIR THIS YEAR? THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. OUR RESOURCE FAIR IS IN AUGUST. IT'S IN AUGUST, OKAY. YES. THANK YOU TO YOU MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. AND, UM, THIS REPORT DID NOT SAY FOOD TRUCK, IT SAYS COORDINATION OF FOOD VENDORS DID NOT REALLY ELABORATE. EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS, ARE WE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE UNDER A TENT SELLING FOOD OR IS IT GONNA HAVE FOOD TRUCK? IT JUST SAYS COORDINATION OF FOOD VENDORS. THAT HENCE MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONER HARRISON, DO YOU, CAN WE DEFER TO OUR, UM, MS. JESSICA TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS? WELL, THAT'S WHY WE PUT MS JE MS UM, WILLIAMS ONLINE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. MS, IT IS WILLIAMS, ISN'T IT? YES. YES. MS. WILLIAMS? YES, MA'AM. UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, WE ARE LOOKING TO DO BOTH, BUT WE'LL BE GIVING OUT FREE FOOD FROM FOOD TRUCKS. UM, WE UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT COMES WITH IT, WITH BEING EXPECT, UM, TO BE HAVING INSPECTED AS WELL AS THE CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE THAT COMES WITH IT. WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY ARE NOT VENDORS WITH THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES, THAT WE, WE WANNA GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO MAKE THE VENDORS OF, UM, CITY OF FORT, UM, CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES. SO WE WILL, ALL FOOD WILL BE SERVED FROM FOOD TRUCKS. AND OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO PROVIDE AS MUCH FREE ITEMS, FREE FOOD TO THE COMMUNITY AS POSSIBLE. SO ONCE WE GET THE, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY THE GO AHEAD FROM, UM, THE COMMISSION, THEN WE'LL START PLANNING AND GOING FORWARD WITH GETTING WHAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY GET THESE FOOD TRUCKS IN. BUT IF WE'RE GOING, ANY FOOD THAT IS GONNA BE SERVED IS COMING FROM A FOOD TRUCK. NOBODY WILL BE COOKING UNDER TENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. MS. WILLIAMS, HOW MANY FOOD TRUCKS ARE YOU PROJECTING? WE ARE LOOKING AT NO MORE THAN FOUR. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S, AGAIN, ONLY IF WE DON'T GET THE DONATIONS. NORMALLY WHEN WE DO EVENTS LIKE THIS IN OTHER CITIES AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, WE GET DONATIONS. SO WE, WE MAY NOT EVEN UTILIZE THOSE FOOD TRUCKS BECAUSE WE DO GET ENOUGH DONATIONS FROM RESTAURANTS TO FEED THE YOUTH AT THESE EVENTS. THEN LET ME BACK UP. IF, IF YOU DO NOT GET SPONSORS FOR THE FOOD TRUCKS, AND I'M TRYING TO RECALL THE POST CAPTAIN'S GOING A LITTLE BIT FAST, BUT IF YOU DO NOT GET THE BACKUP FROM THE FOOD TRUCKS, THEN YOUR FOOD WILL BE PROVIDED BY RESTAURANTS. THERE'LL BE, SO NORMALLY HOW WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD GET LIKE LOCAL, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, UM, JERSEY MIKE'S IS ONE OF OUR PARTNERS. SO JERSEY MIKE'S, WHEN WE DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT EVENTS, THEY COME AND THEY DONATE SANDWICHES FOR THESE EVENTS. UM, IF FOR ANY REASON, LIKE LET'S SAY THEY DONATE 300 SANDWICHES AND MAYBE WE GET ANOTHER ORGANIZATION OR LOCAL RESTAURANT TO DONATE FOOD LIKE THAT, THEN THERE WILL BE NO NEED FOR FOOD TRUCKS. IF, FOR INSTANCE, WE DON'T, AND WE WOULD BRING IN, LIKE I SAID, BETWEEN ONE AND FOUR FOOD TRUCKS AND WE WOULD GO THROUGH WHATEVER GUIDELINES ARE NEEDED BY THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE APPROVED AND THEIR INSURANCE AND PERMITS ARE, UM, GREEN LIT. ARE YOU ASKING FOOD TRUCKS? WILL YOU BE ASKING FOOD TRUCKS TO DONATE THE FOOD FREE OF COST? YES. THE FOOD TRUCKS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH WE'RE, THANK YOU. WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. WILLIAMS. NO PROBLEM. YOU'RE WELCOME MADAM MAYOR. NOW WE WILL TRANSFER OVER TO THE WORKSHOP AGENDA. MADAM MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A 5:30 PM TIME CERTAIN AND THAT [A.  DISCUSSION REGARDING THE ROBERT WOOD JOHNSON FOUNDATION AND THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK PUBLIC SCIENCE PROJECT WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE GREATER FORT LAUDERDALE FOUNDATION FOR THE LAUNCH OF "JUST CARE: A PROJECT TO REIMAGINE SUPPORT FOR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN IN BROWARD COUNTY." (5:30 P.M. TIME CERTAIN)] IS ITEM FIVE A UNDER ADDITIONAL WORKSHOP ITEMS DISCUSSION REGARDING THE ROBERT WOOD JOHNSON FOUNDATION AND THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK PUBLIC SCIENCE PROJECT. WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE GREATER FORT LAUDERDALE FOUNDATION FOR THE LAUNCH OF JUST CARE, A PROJECT TO REIMAGINE SUPPORT FOR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN IN BROWARD COUNTY. AND MS. ALCA BUCHANAN WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM. MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU MS. VCA. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COMMISSION, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY CLERK, ACTING CITY MANAGER, VIRTUAL AUDIENCE, MY COLLEAGUES PRESENCE AND [00:35:01] GUEST PRESENT FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS VCA BUCHANAN. I'M THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. UM, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS CONNECTED TO THE RECENTLY LAUNCHED PROJECT. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE GONNA BE SPEAKING ABOUT. UM, THE ROBERT WOOD JOHNSON FOUNDATION WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1936 AND THE ONE OF THE LEADING PHILANTHROPIC ORGANIZATIONS IN UNITED STATES DEDICATED TO ADVANCING HEALTH AND HEALTH EQUITY REGARDING THE PUBLIC SCIENCE PROJECT AT THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK, THERE HAVE A PROGRAM COMMITTED TO FOSTERING PARTICIPATORY ACTION RESEARCH. THEY ACTIVELY ENGAGE COMMUNITIES IN SHAPING RESEARCH THAT ADDRESSES SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES, COLLABORATING WITH ACADEMIC ACTIVISTS, STUDENTS AND LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS TO ANALYZE POLICIES AND STRUCTURAL INEQUITIES. BOTH ORGANIZATIONS HAVE COME TOGETHER AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE GREATER FORT LAUDERDALE FOUNDATION TO LAUNCH A NEW INITIATIVE. UM, THEY JUST CARE, A PROJECT TO REIMAGINE SUPPORT FOR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN IN BROWARD COUNTY. AND THE AUDIENCE, I HAVE THE DIRECTOR OF THE SIX PILLARS, PARTNERSHIP FOR THE GREATER FORT LAUDERDALE ALLIANCE. MR. LUCIANO DELINI, HE'S HERE TO PROVIDE YOU ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT, DISCUSS DIVISION, AND THEIR INTEREST IN ENGAGING, UM, DALE LAKES RESIDENTS IN THE PROJECT. AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION. YES, MADAM MAYOR. YES. I WILL HAVE LUCIANO COME UP. YES. IS THAT OKAY? THANK YOU. YES IT IS. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS ACTING CITY MANAGER. HELLO. UH, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE STANDING IN FRONT OF Y'ALL AGAIN. I AM ALSO STANDING WITH DARIEN. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. I'M DARIEN LOVETT AND I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR PROSPERITY BROER WITH THE GREATER FORT LAUDERDALE ALLIANCE. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT CAME TO US. UM, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I DO WANNA THANK, UH, ALCA BUCHANAN, WHO HAS BEEN AN AMAZING PARTNER OF US AND ALSO WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU IN THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES. UH, THIS JOURNEY WITH Y'ALL HAS BEEN EXCITING AND WE ARE, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUE THIS WORK, UH, WITH Y'ALL, WITH YOUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. SO, UH, I'LL TRY TO SHARE QUICKLY WHAT THIS PROJECT IS AND HOPEFULLY THROUGH THAT EXPLANATION, BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THAT YOU'LL ALL MAY HAVE, UH, BEFORE YOU ASK THEM. UH, SO THE JUST CARE PROJECT LOOKS TO BUILD ON THE WORK THAT WE STARTED WITH THE CITY A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE GOT TOGETHER WITH THE RESIDENTS TO IDENTIFY SYSTEMIC BARRIERS THAT WERE KEEPING THEM FROM ACHIEVING ECONOMIC MOBILITY AND PROSPERITY. UH, THE ROBERT WOOD JOHNSON FOUNDATION THROUGH THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK AND THE CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL OF BROWARD COUNTY REACHED OUT TO US 'CAUSE THEY'RE INTERESTED FOR US TO CONTINUE THIS WORK THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING WITH LAUDER LAKES TO CONTINUE TO DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO SYSTEMIC BARRIERS, PRIMARILY THOSE THAT ARE IMPACTING FAMILIES AND YOUTH. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE, UH, SIMILARITIES WITH THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE, AND THAT IS ALL ON PURPOSE BECAUSE THIS LOOKS TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND BUILD ON TOP OF THAT. SO WE ARE ONCE AGAIN LOOKING TO ENGAGE THE RESIDENTS OF LAUDERDALE LAKES. UH, THERE IS NO FINANCIAL ASK THAT WE HAVE OF THE CITY. UH, THE ONLY ASKS THAT WE DO HAVE ARE IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO LEND US THE WILLIE WEBB PARK AGAIN, SO THAT WE CAN USE THAT AS A COMMUNITY CENTER TO HOST THESE MEETINGS. AND ALSO, UH, THERE IS AN OPEN INVITATION FOR CITY STAFF AND ALSO FOR COMMISSIONERS, UM, TO BE A PART OF THIS PROJECT, IF YOU ALL, UH, CHOOSE TO. UM, WHAT IS DIFFERENT THIS TIME AROUND FROM THE WORK THAT WE DID, UH, BEFORE, IS THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. SO WE HAVE A THREE YEAR, UH, COMMITMENT FROM THE ROBERT WOOD JOHNSON FOUNDATION TO, TO HELP US LEAD THIS WORK. UH, THE OTHER DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING PEOPLE CYCLING IN AND OUT OF THIS PROJECT TO, BECAUSE IT'S A THREE YEAR PROJECT. THE FIRST PART OF THE PROJECT IS REALLY LOOKING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THAT THOSE LIVED EXPERIENCES THAT RESIDENTS HAVE. UH, WITH THE IDEA OF US BEING ABLE TO THEN TRANSITION AND TAKE THAT DATA AND BRING IN, UH, ECONOMISTS AND POLICY MAKERS FOR US TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN TRANSFORM THOSE LIVED EXPERIENCES TO SHAPE THE WAY THAT WE DESIGN POLICIES AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE UPLIFTING RESIDENTS, PRIMARILY, UH, DISMANTLING BARRIERS THAT EXIST, UH, IN CHILDCARE, EARLY LEARNING EDUCATION, AND EVERYTHING THAT ENCOMPASSES, UH, FAMILIES AND YOUTH. UM, ANOTHER, UH, THING THAT WE WANT TO, UM, SHARE WITH Y'ALL AS TO WHY THE COHORT THIS TIME IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER IS BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ENTIRELY OUR PROJECT. SO, UH, A YEAR OR TWO AGO, IT WAS OUR PROJECT THAT WE LED. THIS IS THE ROBERT WOOD JOHNSON FOUNDATION COMING TO US, AND THEY HAVE ASKED THAT THE WAY [00:40:01] THAT THIS PROJECT BE STRUCTURED IS THAT IT BE A SMALLER COHORT, UH, JUST LIKE WE DID LAST TIME. WE DO HAVE MONIES AVAILABLE TO COMPENSATE, UH, PEOPLE'S TIME. SO WE DO HAVE ABOUT $20,000 PER YEAR THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO USE, UH, TO PAY RESIDENTS FOR, FOR THEIR TIME AND FOR THEIR KNOWLEDGE. UM, ONE QUICK QUESTION. TRY TO ANSWER BEFORE IT BEAT US TOO. YEAH. UH, THANK YOU DARIEN. SO, SO WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE FOR THIS PROJECT? WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES THAT WE ARE ENVISIONING? WE'RE GOING TO BE PRODUCING A REPORT JUST LIKE THE ONE THAT WAS PRODUCED ABOUT A YEAR AGO, UM, FOR THAT FIRST PROJECT THAT WE DID WITH LAUDER LAKES. THERE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE CLEAR POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF THAT, BOTH AT A FEDERAL LEVEL AND ALSO AT A STATE LEVEL. AND, AND A LOT OF WHITE PAPERS THAT WILL BE COMING FROM THIS. AND, UH, THAT IS ALL WORK THAT THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF. MADAM VICE CHAIR, IF MADAM. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. AND SIR AND MADAME, WHAT IS THE COST TO THE CITY? THERE IS NO COST. I MEAN, THE COST TO THE CITY, IF WE WERE TO REALLY TRY TO GET INTO THE WEEDS, IF THERE ARE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH UTILIZING WILLIE WEBB, THAT WOULD BE A COST STAFF TIME. BUT WE DO HAVE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS. SO WE HAVE MONIES FOR, UH, STIPENDS. WE ALSO HAVE MONIES FOR CHILDCARE, UH, FOR FOOD. SO WE DO NOT ENVISION THERE BEING A SINGLE SENSE HAVING TO COME OUT OF THE COFFERS FROM THE CITY MAD. IT'S JUST REALLY TO, TO COLLECT THE DATA FROM THE, THESE PEOPLE. CORRECT. SO AT THE, THE FIRST, THE FIRST YEAR WE'LL FOCUS ON REALLY TRYING TO GATHER AS MUCH DATA AS WE CAN FROM THE RESIDENTS MM-HMM . BUT THE IDEA IS FOR THE RESIDENTS ENGAGEMENT TO NOT END THERE BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY ORGANIC PROCESS WE WANT FOR THE RESIDENTS AS THE PROJECT ADVANCES, AS WE TRANSITION FROM DATA GATHERING TO REALLY TALKING ABOUT POLICY, FOR THEM TO EVENTUALLY BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE POLICY MAKERS AND THE ADVOCATES FOR THEIR VOICES TO ALSO BE ADDED TO, UM, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WILL HOPEFULLY LEAD TO POLICY CHANGE. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UM, I WOULD THANK YOU GUYS FOR PRESENTING AND COMING HERE TO US. YOU GUYS, I RECOGNIZE ARE BRINGING RESOURCES TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S BEING NO COST TO THE CITY. UH, BUT I, I DO WANT, AND ALSO COLLECTING PEOPLE'S DATA FOR THE PURPOSE OF ASSISTING AND CREATING A BETTER PICTURE, I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL. UM, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE IF, IF WE CAN, UH, ASK THE ACT CITY MANAGER TO GET A COMPLETE PICTURE OF HOW MUCH STAFF TIME WILL COST. THEY'RE ASKING TO USE WILLIE WEBB PARK FOR MULTIPLE TIMES. WE'LL PROBABLY USE THAT THREE OR FOUR DAYS THIS YEAR. THREE OR FOUR DAYS. OKAY. CAN WE GET A THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, A CLEAR PICTURE OF OF HOW MUCH STAFF IS GONNA COST? THAT MAY BE A LOT. PROBABLY 26,000 WORDS PETTY. IT MIGHT BE A, SO IF WE COULD JUST GET A PICTURE OF STAFF COST, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. PETTY. SO PETTY COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO, SHE CALLED ME PETTY. THAT WASN'T A QUESTION, IT WAS A STATEMENT. NO, YEAH, I DID. AND COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS AND COMMISSIONER HARRISON. LET ME GET A, LET ME HAVE A QUESTION. HOW MANY PEOPLE IT IS. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU, UM, COM NEED TO BE IN THE PROGRAM TO MAKE IT WORK? HOW, LIKE, IS THERE A LIMIT? SO THE, THE WAY THAT THIS PROJECT IS STRUCTURED IS FOR THE FIRST YEAR, THERE'S GOING TO BE A RELATIVE SMALL COHORT. SO WE'LL HAVE BETWEEN FIVE AND SEVEN RESIDENTS. OKAY. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING, UH, DIFFERENT LEADERS FROM THE COMMUNITY ALSO BEING, BEING PART OF THAT SAME TABLE. UM, AT THE SAME TIME, THOSE FIVE RESIDENTS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM SERVE AS CO-RESEARCHERS FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO HELP US COLLECT EVEN MORE DATA FROM THEIR COMMUNITY. SO THE AMOUNT OF DATA AND LIVED EXPERIENCES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO COLLECT THAT REALLY TELL THE STORY THAT THERE ARE SYSTEMS THAT ARE NOT SUPPORTING FAMILIES AND YOUTH TO THEIR FULL OF THEIR ABILITY. WE DO, WE DON'T WANT THOSE LIVED EXPERIENCES TO BE LIMITED TO JUST THOSE FIVE RESIDENTS. MM-HMM . WE WANT, WE WANT TO TAKE THE, THE LIVED EXPERIENCE OF THOSE RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO FROM AS MANY RESIDENTS AS WE CAN FROM THE COMMUNITY THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. SO THEY'LL MEET THREE TIMES A WEEK AT FROM WHAT, FROM WHAT TIME TO WHAT TIME? YEAH. SO, SO, SO IN CONTRAST TO THE FIRST, UH, GO AROUND THAT WE HAD, UH, WITH PROSPERITY BROWARD, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE STRUCTURE THAT THE ROBERTWOOD WOOD JOHNSON FOUNDATION, THE CITY UNIVERSITY HAS SET OUT FOR US MM-HMM . WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR FORMAL ENGAGEMENTS WITH THIS RESEARCH GROUP. THE RESEARCH GROUP BEING DECISION MAKERS AND OR NOT DECISION MAKERS, BUT ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERS AND COMMUNITY RESIDENTS. THEY'LL MEET THREE TO FOUR TIMES A YEAR, BUT THE WORK WILL, WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT. OKAY. SO THE IDEA IS WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST ALL GROUP MEETING IN EARLY JULY MM-HMM . AND THEN THE WORK WILL OFFICIALLY START. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE WORK OFFICIALLY STARTING IS US GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE RESIDENTS WHO WILL BE SERVING AS CO-RESEARCHERS WITH OUR SUPPORT [00:45:01] TO COLLECT THAT DATA. AND EVERY THREE TO FOUR MONTHS, WE'LL BE MEETING WITH THE PEOPLE OF NEW YORK AND SOME OF THE OTHER PARTNERS TO SYNTHESIZE THE DATA THAT WE'RE COLLECTING AND REALLY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS MISSING, WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO. OKAY. SO TWO, ONE MORE QUESTION. MAX WILLIAMS. SO, AS FAR AS USING THE PART, THE FACILITY FOR THE MEETING IS THREE TIMES OR FOUR TIMES FOR THE WHOLE YEAR, MOST LIKELY. YES. SO WE ANTICIPATE HAVING THE, THE LAUNCH OF THIS PROJECT, IT WILL BE, UH, THREE DAYS, MOST LIKELY IN EARLY JULY. MM-HMM . AND THAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN, UH, IN PERSON. AND WE'LL BE HAVING THE PEOPLE FROM NEW YORK JOINING US AFTERWARDS IF POSSIBLE. UM, WE WANT TO HAVE THE, THE, THE, THE FOLLOWING, THE SUBSEQUENT, UH, CHECK-IN MEETINGS BEING VIRTUAL SO THAT THE PEOPLE OF NEW YORK CAN BE, UH, VIRTUALLY MM-HMM . AND THEN THE RESIDENTS, UH, AND THE DIFFERENT, AND THE PEOPLE FROM BROWARD COUNTY, UH, VIRTUALLY AS WELL. SO TO YOU, MAD COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE A VERY MINIMAL COST TO THE CITY. YES. VERY MINIMAL. WE, WE WILL LET YOU KNOW IF YES, IF IF THINGS CHANGE, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WITH AMPLE TIME. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. YOU'RE MOST WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR ASKING. BEFORE WE CONTINUE, YES. BEFORE WE CONTINUE, I WOULD LIKE TO READ SOMETHING THAT I NORMALLY READ AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING, BUT I'M GOING TO READ IT THIS EVENING AS IT RELATES TO OUR WORKSHOP MEETING. IT SAYS THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING. I'M GOING TO SUBSTITUTE THE WORKSHOP MEETING. IT'S A BUSINESS MEETING. AND AS SUCH, PLEASE CONDUCT OURSELVES IN A RESPECTFUL AND PROFESSIONAL MANNER, BOTH IN TONE OF VOICE AS WELL AS CHOICE OF WORDS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER THOMAS. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UM, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. QUESTION FOR YOU. UM, IS THIS THE FIRST CITY THAT THIS PROJECT IS BEING CONDUCTED IN, OR HAVE THEY LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES AS WELL? UH, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. I CAN FIND OUT FOR YOU. UH, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THIS PROJECT IS RUNNING IN PARALLEL WITH A PROJECT IN NEW YORK. SO THE PEOPLE FROM NEW YORK WITH THE ROBERT WOOD JOHNSON FOUNDATION, THEY HAVE A COMMUNITY UP THERE THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING THE SAME THING WITH AT THE SAME TIME. SO THAT WE CAN ALSO COMPARE, UH, HOW THE SYSTEMS OF SUPPORT DIFFER BETWEEN STATES AND HOW SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS CAN ALIGN AND SUPPORT, UH, FEDERAL CHANGE. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER THOMAS, THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, THE REASON WHY I WANT IS I, I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE WE WERE USED, UM, THIS CITY WAS USED AS A PILOT PROGRAM, AND OF COURSE THEY PIGGYBACKED OFF OF YOU BECAUSE THE WORD WENT OUT THAT LAUDERDALE LAKE. SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF THERE WERE OTHER CITIES THAT WERE BEING USED CURRENTLY, ASIDE FROM NEW YORK DOWN HERE. I, I'M NOT, I KNOW. UM, AND I'M BEING HONEST WITH YOU, FEELS LIKE THE CITY IS BEING A GUINEA PIG, MORE OR LESS, YOU KNOW? UM, AND THAT'S HOW I AM SEEING IT. UM, PULLING FROM OTHERS. WHEN PROSPERITY BROWARD CAME IN, WAS YOU WERE SPOT ON DOING AND ASSISTING AND I, WE SAW, WELL, I SAW RESULTS FROM IT. SO FOR OTHERS NOW TO ALIGN THEMSELVES WITH YOU TO COME IN, I WONDER WHO ELSE WILL ALIGN THEMSELF. NOT THAT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, NEED TO HAVE SOME DATA, BUT I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OTHERS COMING IN AND TAKING LAUDERDALE LAKES AS A PRIME CITY IN ORDER TO DO THEIR RESEARCH. THAT'S MY CONCERN THERE. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. YOU, YOU STATED THAT THE OUTCOMES FOR ROBERT WOOD WOULD BE REPORTS MM-HMM . POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHITE PAPERS. WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES FOR THE PARTICIPANTS? SO WE HAVE THOSE STIPENDS. SO WHAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THIS TIME THAN WHEN WE DID IT BEFORE, BEFORE, IF YOU ALL RECALL, WE DID HAVE THAT RESEARCH COMPONENT, BUT THEN WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THE YMCA TO PROVIDE THOSE DIRECT SERVICES THIS TIME AROUND, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S NOT OUR PROJECT, BUT WE'RE HELPING TO FACILITATE IT. IT'S THE WAY BEEN. THEN CAN I ASK YOU, WHY ISN'T ROBERT WOOD HERE TO DISCUSS THEIR PROJECT? BECAUSE WE ARE THERE, I KNOW YOU'RE HERE ON THEIR BEHALF. CORRECT. BUT I WOULD THINK THAT SOMEONE FROM ROBERT WOOD WOULD BE HERE OR VIRTUAL SO THAT WE COULD ASK THEM QUESTIONS. ALSO, WE CAN, IF, IF YOU'RE OPEN TO IT, WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM AND SEE IF WE CAN SCHEDULE THEM FOR THE NEXT, I STILL HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT. PLEASE. OF COURSE. SO YOU WOULD NEED TO UTILIZE THE WILLIE WEBB FACILITY THREE TIMES PER YEAR, THREE OR FOUR TIMES PER YEAR. AND DURING THAT TIME, THE PARTICIPANTS WOULD MEET THREE TIMES PER WEEK. DID I RECORD THAT CORRECTLY? NO, MA'AM. OKAY, SO, ALRIGHT, WE'LL, WE'LL BE HOSTING THREE TO FOUR MEETINGS IN PERSON TO LAUNCH THIS EVENT. THEN THE PARTICIPANTS WILL BE WORKING BETWEEN THEMSELVES. WE WILL, UM, ORGANIZE THOSE WORKING CADENCES ONCE WE MEET AS, AS A, AS A COLLECTIVE. UM, [00:50:01] I DON'T THINK I'M ANSWERING YOUR, COULD YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? I WAS ASKING IF I RECORDED CORRECTLY THAT THE UTILIZATION OF WILLY WEBB WOULD BE THREE TO FOUR TIMES PER YEAR, AND DURING THAT THREE TO FOUR TIMES PER YEAR, THE PARTICIPANTS WOULD MEET THREE TIMES PER WEEK. AND YOU SAID THEN NO, I DIDN'T RECORD IT CORRECTLY. OH YES. OKAY. SO YES, WE'LL BE MEETING, UH, THE LAUNCH OF THIS PROJECT WITH THE PEOPLE OF NEW YORK AND THE OTHER PARTNERS FROM HERE, FROM BROWARD COUNTY, PLUS THE RESIDENTS THAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN EARLY JULY. IT WILL BE IN PERSON AND IT'LL BE THREE DAYS IN WILLY WEBB. AFTER THAT, THE, THE WORK CADENCE WILL GET ORGANIZED. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS MEETING THREE TIMES PER WEEK. THAT WILL ALL BE DETERMINED, UH, IN THAT LAUNCH EVENT TO SEE WHAT THAT WORKING CADENCE WILL LOOK LIKE. AND THE ROLE THAT WE'RE ENVISIONING THE RESIDENTS HELPING US WITH IS THROUGH THAT DATA COLLECTION OF OTHER LIVED EXPERIENCES THAT CAN HELP TELL THE STORY OF ALL THESE SYSTEMS THAT ARE, THAT ARE OR NOT SUPPORTING YOUTH AND FAMILY. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY ABOUT THE MEETING CADENCES, IF IT'S THREE TIMES A WEEK OR NOT, THAT WILL BE DETERMINED DURING THAT, UH, LAUNCH MEETING, WHICH WILL BE A, A WORKSHOP TYPE OF MEETING, UH, WITH ALL THE INTERESTED PARTIES. OKAY. YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE FIVE PARTICIPANTS? YES, MA'AM. ISN'T THAT A SMALL SAMPLE OF DATA COLLECTION? SO THE IDEA IS THAT THOSE FIVE RESIDENTS WILL SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH US, BUT THEY WILL ALSO SERVE AS AMBASSADORS WHO CAN GO INTO THE COMMUNITY AND GATHER EVEN MORE DATA FROM THE COMMUNITY. SO WHILE THE SAMPLE IS SMALL AS TO THE PROPORTION OF RESIDENTS WHO ARE WORKING IN THIS PROJECT, THE IDEA IS TO GET AS A LARGE, AS EXAMPLE AS POSSIBLE WITH THE HELP OF THOSE RESIDENTS WHO ARE SERVING AS AMBASSADORS TO GATHER DATA ON BEHALF OF THIS PROJECT. WHY CAN'T ROBERT WOOD START OFF WITH THE LARGER SAMPLE? THIS WAS THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US AGAIN, UH, IN, IN, IN CONTRAST TO THE WORK THAT WE DID ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. THAT WAS ENTIRELY IN OUR CONTROL PER SE. WE, WE WERE THE ONES WHO, WHO FULLY DESIGNED THAT PROJECT. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT, THAT IS COMING TO US FROM NEW YORK AND THOSE, THAT'S THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE ENVISIONED THIS PROJECT TAKING PLACE. PROSPERITY. ROBERT DID AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THE SINGLE MOMS PROGRAM. THANK YOU. THERE WERE OUTCOMES. IT WAS VERY IMPACTFUL TO THEM. THERE WERE RESOURCES TO THEM, BUT I'M NOT SEEING THIS, I'M SEEING THIS AS AN ORGANIZATION WANT TO COLLECT DATA FOR THEIR PURPOSES AND NOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE FIVE RESIDENTS. AND I CERTAINLY CANNOT SEE HOW FIVE RESIDENTS CAN PROVIDE, UH, I FORGET WHAT YOU CALL IT STATISTICALLY, BUT, UM, GOOD DATA, IF YOU WILL, FOR FIVE RESIDENTS. MADAM VICE MAYOR. YES, MADAM MAYOR. I DID ASK IF THERE WAS ANY COST TO THE CITY AND OF COURSE YOU SAID NO. IF YOU ARE GOING TO UTILIZE SPACE, THERE IS GOING TO BE A COST. AND THE NEXT QUESTION IS, DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ZIP CODES? YES. THIS IS ALL BUILT ON THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING THROUGH PROSPERITY BROWARD. SO THROUGH PROSPERITY BROWARD, WE ADVOCATE FOR ECONOMIC MOBILITY OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR PROSPERITY SUB CODES. SO YES, BUT I'M SURE, LORD, THE DE LAKES IS NOT THE ONLY CITY, WHICH I WOULD SAY 3, 3, 3. ONE, ONE OR 3, 3, 3. ONE, THREE. SO WHY NOT EXPAND IT EITHER EAST OR WEST? YEAH, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A FAIR QUESTION. AGAIN, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT CAME TO US FROM NEW YORK AND THEY WERE INTERESTED IN BUILDING ON TOP OF THE WORK THAT WE DID ORIGINALLY WITH LAUDER LAKES. UH, THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT WE COULD TAKE THIS PROJECT TO A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY IF WE WANTED TO, BUT BEFORE WE MAKE THAT DECISION, BECAUSE OF THE GREAT RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY AND ALL THEIR WORK THAT WE'VE DONE, WE WANT TO SEE, UH, IF WE CAN CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THIS RELATIONSHIP AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE, ON THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THROUGH PROSPERITY BROWARD IN SUPPORTING NOT JUST LOTTERY LAKES, BUT ALL OF THE, UH, COMMUNITIES THAT FALL WITHIN OUR SIX PROSPERITY ZIP CODES. COMMISSIONER THOMAS. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UM, HOW WILL THESE PARTICIPANT BE NOTIFIED, OR THE FIVE PARTICIPANT, HOW, HOW WILL THEY GO ABOUT THAT'S WHY, AS I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE MAYOR TO HAVE THE ROBERT WOOD JOHNSON FOUNDATION HERE, BECAUSE YOU ARE THE FILL IN FOR THEM. SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS ACCURATELY. I, I REALLY CAN'T SEE 3 3 3 1 1 EXPANSE NOT ONLY TO LAUDERDALE LAKES, BUT IT ALSO GOES OUT AS WELL. AND, AND SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME, BUT I FEEL HURT. I REALLY DO. UM, AND I'M SAYING THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT [00:55:01] PROSPERITY BROW DID, I APPLAUD YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY. BUT WHAT IS COMING IN NOW IN ORDER TO INFILTRATE TO GET DATA AND, AND STATISTICS? I, I, I'M, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I REALLY DON'T. AND THAT'S FROM MY HEART OF HEART. I'M SORRY. ANYONE ELSE? COLLEAGUES. MAD MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR. I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR. SO LET ME PUT IT RIGHT THERE. WE ARE NOT THE ONLY CITY WITH 3, 3, 3. ONE, ONE OR 3, 3, 3. ONE, THREE. AND YOU DID SOMETHING LAST YEAR, LAST YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE. I THINK IT ENDED LAST YEAR TIME FOR YOU TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER CITY. EITHER EAST, WEST, MAYBE NORTH OR SOUTH. SINCE WE ARE IDEALLY SITUATED IN THE CENTER OF BROWARD COUNTY, THERE ARE OTHER ZIP CODES WITH THE SAME MEDIAN INCOME. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ARE YOU'RE LOOKING ON. SO FOR ME, I WILL SAY NO, I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRIS. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. LISTEN, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE A TOUGH SELL, BUT UM, I THINK THAT, UH, WELL WHAT WE ARE, ARE LOOKING FOR IS MORE CLEAR AS TO HOW IT BENEFITS THE CITY. UM, AND A, A LOT OF TIMES DATA IS VERY IMPORTANT. ON THE OTHER HAND, I DON'T THINK THE CITY IS DOING ENOUGH TO CAPTURE OUR OWN DATA IN ORDER TO BETTER SERVICE THE RESIDENTS. THAT'S MY OPINION. SO I THINK YOU GUYS COULD DO SOMETHING THAT'S HELPFUL. BUT IF YOU GUYS COME BACK WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE, THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE HELPFUL FOR US TO REALLY OUTLINE HOW THE CITY CAN BENEFIT FROM SOMETHING LIKE THIS. BUT THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO RELATE TO YOU TO RELATE TO ROBERT WOOD THAT WE FEEL SLIGHTED, THAT THEY FELT IT NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO AT LEAST HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE VIRTUALLY, UH, IF THEY COULD NOT FLY SOMEONE DOWN FROM NEW YORK, THAT WE ARE A CITY WHO CARES AND WE CARE ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS AND WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO THEM AND WHAT'S GIVEN TO THEM. SO PLEASE RELAY THAT FOR ME. WE WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. MADAM MANAGER. UM, WE NEED TO, SINCE US ARE MOVING FORWARD, UM, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. MAYBE STAFF. WHAT, WHAT OTHER PROGRAMS DO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT'S CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WORKING TO COLLECT DATA AND DO SOMETHING SIMILAR? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT? COMMUNITY PARTNERS WE'RE WORKING WITH TO DO THAT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? AT THIS MOMENT, MS. KO, I'LL DEFER TO VECA TO FIND OUT IF SHE HAS ANY DATA NAME AND SUCH. MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU. NO COMMISSIONER SO FAR, BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE AND KNOWLEDGE, NO, NOTHING ACTIVE, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW. NO. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON, OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, UM, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR TO VEHICLE, HOW MANY PROGRAMS HAVE WE HAD THAT'S CAPTURED INFORMATIONAL DATA, PICTURES FOR OUR COMMUNITY, MADAM MAYOR. SO WILL BE THE PROSPERITY BROWARD. THAT'S THE, THE ONE THAT WE HAVE DONE IN DEPTH THAT I CAN'T RECALL RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. LISTEN, UH, COLLEAGUES AND RESIDENTS, WE HAVE TO DO MORE IN THE CITY TO INVEST IN OUR CITY WITH DATA. IF THESE PEOPLE WE FEEL ARE NOT THE RIGHT FOLKS, THAT'S OKAY, BUT LET'S NOT SHOOT DOWN LIKE LAUDER HILLS, SO MANY OTHER CITIES, THEY KNOW THEIR CITY INSIDE AND OUT. WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT OUR OWN CITY. WE KNOW NOT, I CAN'T SAY NOTHING, BUT WE KNOW NOT ENOUGH ON THE QUALITATIVE DATA PERSPECTIVE ENOUGH ABOUT OUR CITY. WE JUST DON'T. SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT, UH, LET'S CONSIDER DOING SOMETHING AROUND THAT A LOT MORE. UM, TO SOME EXTENT. TRU, YOU MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. UM, I'M FOR THIS PROGRAM. UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE, UH, WHAT'S HIS NAME, THE GENTLEMAN ROBERT, TO MAYBE COME AND, YOU KNOW, TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT MORE AND ANSWER A LITTLE BIT MORE QUESTIONS. BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT GO, TAKE OFF. BUT LET'S GET HIM TO COME IN AND HEAR HIS, YOU KNOW, BRING IT TO US. HE CAN APPEAR VIRTUALLY AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. THANK YOU. I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ASK FOR THE SAME THING. THAT COULD BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. MAD MAYOR. IS THAT OKAY? YEP, MA'AM. IS EVERYTHING OKAY? WOULD THAT BE ALL RIGHT? WHEN WILL ROBERT WOOD BE ABLE TO JOIN US? BRING YOU WOULD FIND THAT OUT. BRING THEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING. YOU'LL FIND THAT OUT. [01:00:01] UHHUH AT OUR NEXT MEETING. UHHUH. . THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK, THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. DARREN, CAN THEY ASK QUESTIONS? MANAGER, MADAM MAYOR, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE CONSENSUS. JUST WANNA ENSURE THAT WE HAVE CONSENSUS, FIRST OF ALL TO BRING THAT ITEM BACK WITH MR. ROBERT ON THE LINE OR IN PERSON. SO IF WE CAN, MR. MAXWELL WILLIAMS SAYS YES, IF I'M CORRECT. YES, YES, YES. VICE MAYOR SAID NO, NO. MADAM MANAGER SAYS NO. COMMISSIONER THOMAS. NO. COMMISSIONER THOMAS SAYS NO. YES. YES. SO NO, IT DOES NOT COME NEXT. THREE, TWO. THANK YOU. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. E OH, MS. MAYOR WILL BE SO, MS. MAYOR WILL BE SO KIND. MS. HALL, IF YOU MAKE IT SHORT, I'LL WOULD YOU COME TO THE MIC AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF? NICOLE HALL RESIDENT ISN'T ROBERT WOODS FOUNDATION? JOHNSON AND JOHNSON. I'M SORRY, MAYOR THROUGH YOU. ROBERT WOODS FOUNDATION. IS THAT NOT JOHNSON AND JOHNSON, ISN'T IT ROBERT WOODS JOHNSON FOUNDATION. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PERSON. I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR 'CAUSE I DID MY RESEARCH ON IT. SO ROBERT WOOD JOHNSON FOUNDATION, ROBERT WOOD JOHNSON DIED I BELIEVE IN 1936. MS. FKA IS NODDING NODDING HER HEAD YES, SHE'S BEHIND ME. OKAY. UM, SO THIS IS A MEDICAL STUDY AS YOU ARE M MS. W AND I, MYSELF. UM, HAVE, SO THIS IS NOT, WE, WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN THE TYPE OF DATA. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO GET MAYBE CLARITY ON THE TYPE OF DATA THAT THEY ARE WANTING TO ACQUIRE. BUT THAT MAY BE A MOOT ISSUE, MS. HALL, BECAUSE WE HAVE VOTED FOR THAT. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. WE DO HAVE A 6:00 PM TIME. CERTAIN. WHO IS THAT? OH. OH, THANK YOU. I HE'S ON PERSON. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER [B.  DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PILOT EVICTION PREVENTION PROGRAM (SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER MAXWELL-WILLIAMS) (6:00 P.M. TIME CERTAIN)] FIVE B. DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PILOT EVICTION PREVENTION PROGRAM, WHICH IS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. WE'VE COME IN. BIANCA. HI. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES. YES. JUST ONE MOMENT. WHO THAT? I THINK IT'S THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM OH. SO, HI. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE ROBERT MANN ON THE VIRTUAL. HE IS IN CHARGE OF THE, THE PILOT EVICTION PREVENTION PROGRAM THAT THEY COLLABORATED WITH LEGAL, UM, LEGAL AID OF BROWARD COUNTY. AND HE'S GOING TO KIND OF GO IN DETAIL, AND YOU GUYS ARE FREE TO ASK HIM ALL THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM. MS. TANYA, ARE YOU HERE TO GIVE SOME BACKUP INFORMATION THROUGH YOU? MADAM MAYOR? YES. I'M HERE. YOU JUST TO, UM, GIVE ANY BACKUP INFORMATION OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH MR. MANN AND DID SOME, UM, RESEARCH ON HIS PROGRAM AS WELL. OKAY. WHAT WOULD YOU, JUST GIVE US A SUMMARY OF YOUR FINDINGS. SO, UM, THROUGH MY RESEARCH FOR THE PROGRAM, THIS PROGRAM WILL ALLOW, UM, THROUGH MR. MANN, HE'S IN COLLABORATION WITH, UM, THE, UM, LEGAL AID SOCIETY, AND THEY WOULD WORK TOGETHER TO, UH, TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM BEING EVICTED. BASICALLY, THERE'S FUNDS THAT THE CITY WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE. SOME CITIES HAVE ALREADY PROVIDED FUNDS TO THIS PROGRAM. ONE OF THE, UM, COMMENTS THAT I'VE, WHEN WE HAD OUR DISCUSSION WAS MAYBE AROUND $25,000 WAS WHAT, UM, SOME OF THE CITIES HAVE PROVIDED, AND THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE KEPT IN A ACCOUNT SO THAT WHEN SOMEONE NEEDED, UH, THOSE FUNDS TO ASSIST THEM WITH AN EVICTION PROCESS, THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE IMMEDIATELY TO YOU. MELANIE, MAYOR, MR. MAX WILLIAMS. RIGHT. SO THIS PROGRAM IS ALSO IN THE CITY OF SUNRISE AND, UM, THEY DID CONTRIBUTE $2,500 TOWARDS THE FIRST TIME EVICTION PREVENTION PROGRAM. AND OF COURSE, UM, MR. MANN WILL EXPLAIN, UM, WHAT THEIR CONTRIBUTION WILL BE. ALSO 2,500. 25,000. 25,000. SORRY, MR. MANN, GO AHEAD. HI, I'M, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES, YES. HI, I'M BOB MANNY. UH, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO, UM, HEAR ABOUT THE MANNY HOMELESS PREVENTION PROGRAM, WHICH [01:05:01] I ESTABLISHED, UM, A FEW YEARS AGO. UH, JUST FOR A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON MYSELF AND THE PROGRAM, UM, I GREW UP IN THE HARLEM, WASHINGTON HEIGHTS AREA OF NEW YORK. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE IN BROWARD COUNTY FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS. UM, RAISED MY FAMILY HERE, UM, AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW WE CAN DEAL WITH OUR HOMELESS PROBLEMS HERE, UH, AND HOW TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM BECOMING HOMELESS. UM, I, UH, WAS PRACTICING LAWYER IN TOWN FOR MANY YEARS, AND ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF A COMPANY CALLED ULTIMATE SOFTWARE GROUP, WHICH WE SOLD, UM, OH, BACK IN 2019 FOR $11 BILLION. UM, AT THAT TIME, I WENT AHEAD AND STARTED DOING SOME RESEARCH ON HOW WE COULD ADDRESS THE HOMELESS PROBLEMS HERE IN BROWARD COUNTY AND WHAT COULD BE DONE TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM BECOMING HOMELESS. UH, I STARTED OUT BY STUDYING THE ISSUES. I WAS ON THE BOARD OF HOPE SOUTH FLORIDA FOR A FEW YEARS, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT ALTHOUGH THE GOVERNMENT WAS SPENDING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TRYING TO ADDRESS PEOPLE WHO WERE ALREADY HOMELESS, VERY LITTLE IF ANYTHING WAS BEING DONE TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM BECOMING HOMELESS. UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, I ESTABLISHED THE NANNY HOMELESS PREVENTION PROGRAM. UM, I HAVE COMMITTED AND HAVE SPENT A GOOD PART OF A MILLION DOLLARS OF MY OWN MONEY SETTING THIS PROGRAM UP. UM, AND WHAT WE DO IN, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LEGAL AID IS IF SOMEBODY IS FACING EVICTION, UM, WE, UM, PROVIDE LEGAL SERVICES AND THEN SEE IF WE CAN NEGOTIATE A, UM, RESOLUTION OF THE ISSUES WITH THE LANDLORD SO THAT PEOPLE DO NOT BECOME PART OF THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, LIVING IN THEIR CARS OR LIVING IN THE STREETS OF, OF OUR COMMUNITY. UM, THE PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LEGAL AID. UH, WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THE LAST, OH, TWO YEARS OR SO OF SAVING OVER 800 PEOPLE FROM BECOMING HOMELESS, INCLUDING MORE THAN 450 KIDS, UH, WHO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, STAY IN THEIR HOMES RATHER THAN, UH, YOU KNOW, BECOMING PART OF THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY. THE WAY THE PROGRAM BASICALLY WORKS IS THAT, UM, IF SOMEBODY IS FACING EVICTION, THEY CONTACT LEGAL AID. I, WE INITIALLY HAD ONE LAWYER THAT I HIRED TO WORK ON THIS PROGRAM. UH, WE NOW HAVE TWO LAWYERS AND TWO PARALEGALS, UH, THAT, UH, WORK ON THE PROGRAM. UH, WE FOCUS ON, FIRST OF ALL, OBVIOUSLY, FOLKS HAVE TO BE, IF THEY'RE GONNA QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM, HAVE TO HAVE AN INCOME LEVEL BELOW TWICE THE POVERTY LEVEL, WHICH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE FAMILY. UM, ANYWHERE FROM OH, 35 TO $45,000 PER YEAR. THEIR INCOME HAS TO BE BELOW THAT. WE FOCUS ON FAMILIES. UM, YOU KNOW, THE DEMOGRAPHICS IS, IT'S OFTENTIMES A SINGLE MOM WITH A COUPLE OF KIDS. UM, AND, UM, WE VET PEOPLE SO THAT THE OBJECTIVE IS, MOST OF THEM ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE POTENTIALLY FIRST TIME HOMELESS PEOPLE. THEY'VE LOST THEIR JOB, THEY'VE NOT GETTING CHILD SUPPORT IN A TIMELY FASHION, LOST THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE. UH, WE VET PEOPLE BECAUSE THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS NOT TO BE A CONTINUING SOURCE OF, UM, ASSISTANCE FOR THE FOLKS, BUT TO KIND OF SAVE THEM FROM BECOMING HOMELESS AND BEING ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, KINDA HELP THEMSELVES AND BE, BE PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN SAVE THEM FROM BECOMING HOMELESS. 'CAUSE ONCE SOMEBODY BECOMES HOMELESS, THE ABILITY TO GET BACK INTO THEIR APARTMENT WITH SECURITY DEPOSITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S NECESSARY BECOMES A, YOU KNOW, A HUGE TASK. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROGRAM IS FOCUSED ON FAMILIES. IT'S FOCUSED ON PROVIDING, UH, ASSISTANCE TO THOSE WHO WANNA HELP THEMSELVES AND HOPEFULLY CAN, UM, SAVE THEM FROM BECOMING PART OF THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY. WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DETERMINE IS THAT, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE SERVICES WHICH I HAVE BEEN FUNDING, UH, GENERALLY IN NEGOTIATING WITH A LANDLORD, THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE [01:10:01] SIDE, IT COSTS ABOUT, ON AVERAGE $1,100 PER PERSON TO SAVE THEM FROM BECOMING HOMELESS. THE STATISTICS SHOW THAT IF SOMEBODY BECOMES HOMELESS, IT COSTS THE CITIES, COUNTIES, AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES APPROXIMATELY $47,000 PER YEAR TO, UM, SUPPORT SOMEBODY THAT'S BECOME HOMELESS THROUGH, YOU KNOW, ROOM BOARD, LAW ENFORCEMENT, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UM, UH, COST OF, OF THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY AND HOMELESS FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO, IN ADDITION TO THE PSYCHOLOGICAL AND EMOTIONAL TRAUMA THAT'S SAVED BY KEEP PEOPLE, BY KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES, UM, WE'RE ALSO SAVING THE CITY'S COUNTIES AND EVERYBODY ELSE, A LOT OF MONEY SINCE, FOR $1,100, WE CAN SAVE SOMEBODY FROM BECOMING HOMELESS. AND, UM, OTHERWISE, THE COUNTY AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ARE SPENDING, LIKE I SAID, CLOSE TO $47,000 PER YEAR TO SUPPORT THE HOMELESS, UH, PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. UM, WE WERE IN, WE STARTED THE PROGRAM A COUPLE YEARS AGO, ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR AGO, THE COUNTY, UM, UH, GOT WIND OF WHAT WE WERE DOING AND HAS PROVIDED A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN, UM, A FOR THE PROGRAM PROGRAM. UH, WE HAVE SOME OTHER PRIVATE AGENCIES THAT ARE ALSO PROVIDING, UH, MONEY FOR THE PROGRAM. AND AS I'VE SAID, I'VE COMMITTED A MILLION DOLLARS TO THIS PROGRAM. THE, WE HAVE TALKED TO THE OTHER, WE HAVE TALKED TO THE CITY OF SUNRISE WHO, UM, HAS PUT $25,000 INTO THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE SIDE OF THIS, NOT THE SERVICES SIDE, WHICH ARE BEING FUNDED BY MYSELF AND THE COUNTY AND OTHERS. UM, AND WE ARE EXPLORING WITH OTHER CITIES IF THEY WANT TO JOIN THE PROGRAM. UH, OBVIOUSLY IT IS TOTALLY UP TO YOU FOLKS, UH, AS THE COMMISSIONERS, IT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO, UM, UH, PARTICIPATE, UM, AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. USUALLY WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR MORE SPECIFICS ON HOW IT WOULD WORK, UM, WE'D SET UP A MEETING WITH LEGAL AID SINCE LEGAL AID IS MY PARTNER IN THIS, UH, PROJECT. AND THE ATTORNEY, ALTHOUGH FUNDED BY ME, UH, ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS, ALTHOUGH FUNDED BY ME, IS EMPLOYED BY LEGAL AID OF BROWARD COUNTY. SO THAT IS IN ESSENCE WHAT THE PROGRAM IS ABOUT. AND WE'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING IF OTHER CITIES WANT TO JOIN THE SUNRISE AND THE COUNTY AND PRIVATE AGENCIES AND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING THESE SERVICES SO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, UH, BECOMING PART OF THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY. IT'S KIND OF, I ANALOGIZE IT TO, IF YOU HAVE A FLOOD IN YOUR HOUSE, WHAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU DO? YOU TURN OFF THE WATER SOURCE COMING INTO THE, THE, THE HOUSE AND, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU CLEAN UP THE FLOOD. WELL, WHAT WE DO IS WE KIND OF TURN OFF THE SPIGOT OF PEOPLE FLOWING INTO THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY. AND AS I SAID, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEAR YEARS, WE'VE SAVED PROBABLY 800, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 800 PEOPLE, UM, FROM BECOMING HOMELESS. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, UM, ALTHOUGH THE NUMBERS SEEM TO BE UP IN THE AIR, I HEAR NUMBERS THAT BROWARD COUNTY HAS ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO 5,000, UM, HOMELESS PEOPLE. UM, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT MAYBE WE SAVE FOUR OR FIVE, 600 A YEAR FROM BECOMING HOMELESS, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO 10% OF THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE PART OF OUR HOMELESS COMMUNITY TO, TO, TO DEAL WITH. SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THE PROGRAM IS ABOUT. UH, WE THINK WE'VE BEEN, BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING IT OFF THE GROUND AND ALWAYS INTERESTED IN KNOWING IF OTHER CITIES WANNA PARTICIPATE, UH, IN, IN, IN, IN THE PROGRAM. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT, WHAT THEY PILOT EVICTION PROGRAM THAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA IS ABOUT MADAM, THE NAME OF IT'S THE MANNY HOMELESS PREVENTION PROGRAM. YOU CAN READ MORE ABOUT IT@MANNYHOMELESSPREVENTION.ORG. THAT'S THE WEBSITE. AND I CAN ALSO, WHICH I HAVE PROVIDED TO I BELIEVE, MEMBERS OF YOUR STAFF, SOME ARTICLES YOU KNOW ABOUT THE PROGRAM, COMMISSIONER THOMAS, AND WITH THAT, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. MR. THOMAS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU MR. MADON FOR, UM, COMING ON AND SHARING THAT WITH US. UM, MY QUESTION [01:15:01] IS, UH, SAY I AM ABOUT TO BE EVICTED FROM MY APARTMENT, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, UH, YOU PRO HOW, WALK ME THROUGH, YOU PROVIDE THIS FUNDS FOR US. SO, SO THE, THE WAY IT WORKS IS IF SOMEBODY IS ABOUT TO BE EVICTED, UM, WE SEND THEM, THEY, THEY GO TO LEGAL AID AND MEET WITH ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS OR PARALEGALS THERE. WE VET PEOPLE TO, TO DETERMINE IF THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM. OBVIOUSLY THEIR INCOME HAS TO BE BELOW A CERTAIN LEVEL. IN ADDITION, UM, WE ARE FOCUSED ON FAMILIES. AND LAST, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WE ARE HELPING ARE GOING TO, UM, ARE NOT PART OF THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT REALLY QUALIFY THE PROGRAM. SO WE VET THEM IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR EXPENSES ARE, YOU KNOW, IF, HOW THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WHY THEY'RE, THEY'RE FACING EVICTION. AND WE TRY TO, UH, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, UH, PUT, PUT PEOPLE IN THE PROGRAM WHO, UM, WILL, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SAVE FROM BECOMING HOMELESS AND THAT WILL NOT BE, YOU KNOW, CANDIDLY COMING BACK A MONTH OR TWO LATER FOR MORE ASSISTANCE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE THOSE WHO ARE POTENTIALLY FIRST TIME HOMELESS. IF, IF, IF THEY ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, QUALIFYING FOR THE PROGRAM, THEN THE ATTORNEY WORKS WITH THE LANDLORD ASSERTS ANY LEGAL DEFENSES THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE. THE MORE IMPORTANTLY, TRIES TO NEGOTIATE A RESOLUTION, UM, WITH THE LANDLORD, UH, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PAYING CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BACK RENT THAT MAY BE OWED, EVEN SOME FUTURE RENT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THIS, THOSE NEGOTIATIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABLE TO SAVE THE PEOPLE AND KEEP THEM IN THEIR HOME. THAT'S IN KIND OF A, A, A VERY BROAD OVERVIEW OF HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS. COMMISSIONER THOMAS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO THE CITY GIVING UP 25,000, WHAT DOES THAT ASSIST WITH? THEY, IT ASSISTS WITH PAYING THE, SO WHAT, WHAT WE'VE DONE, AND THIS, THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT THROUGH LEGAL AID 'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, RUN THE, OPERATE. THE PROGRAM FOR ME, UM, IS WE WOULD PUT THAT MONEY IN A, THE, THE TRUST ACCOUNT, AND IT WOULD BE, AND, AND LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THE LOGISTICS HAS TO BE WORKED OUT. IT WOULD BE FOR RESIDENTS OF DALE LAKES WHO COME INTO THE PROGRAM. UM, AND IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THEM FOR THE, FOR THAT MONEY TO BE AVAILABLE FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT MONEY FOR, YOU KNOW, PERSONNEL OR SERVICES THAT, THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED. WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'D HOPE TO BE ABLE TO DO IS USE THAT $25,000 SO THAT IF THE, IF THE PERSON QUALIFIES FOR THE, FOR THE PROGRAM, THEY'RE FROM LAUDERDALE LAKES, UH, THE ATTORNEY WOULD NOTE NEGOTIATE WITH THE LANDLORD. AND LIKE I SAID, IT GENERALLY RUNS, UM, ABOUT 1,050 TO $1,100 PER PERSON THAT WE'RE SAVING. SO, YOU KNOW, THEORETICALLY, UM, THAT MONEY WOULD BE USED TO, FOR THOSE WHO QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM, FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE LANDLORD AND, UH, THE MONEY WOULD BE USED TO KEEP THE PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES. MA'AM, COMMISSIONER, JUST COMMISSIONER HARRISON. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UM, QUICK QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THAT LEGAL AID, IT'S THEIR PROGRAM. UM, COULD YOU CLARIFY WHICH PART THAT LEGAL AID IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AND WHAT PARTS ARE YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR? WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP SET UP. UM, I HAVE FUNDED FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS THE PROGRAM WITH LEGAL AID CARRYING OUT THE OPERATIONS. CANDIDLY, I WAS GOING TO START MY OWN LAW FIRM, THE PRO BONO LAW FIRM, AND DO IT THAT WAY. BUT AFTER A LONG TIME OF TALKING WITH LEGAL AID AND BEING COMFORTABLE THAT LEGAL AID, UM, CAN, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, OPERATE THE PROGRAM, GOT VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE NOTION THAT THEY HAD THE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, WHEREWITHAL TO, UH, TO RUN, YOU KNOW, OPERATE THE PROGRAM. SO I HAVE BEEN FUNDING IT. UH, UH, NOW THE COUNTY IS PARTICIPATING IN FUNDING. UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE MANNY HOMELESS PREVENTION PROGRAM AND LEGAL AID AND LEGAL AID LAWYERS OPERATE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. AND I, YOU KNOW, I STAY INVOLVED, ALTHOUGH I, MANY PEOPLE IN MY POSITION JUST KIND OF WRITE A CHECK AND WALK AWAY, [01:20:01] YOU KNOW, AND SAY, LET ME KNOW HOW YOU'RE DOING. I'VE BEEN, UH, KIND OF INVOLVED, UH, NOT IN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, BUT STAYING INVOLVED WITH WORKING WITH LEGAL AID ON HOW THE PROGRAM IS RUNNING. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON, THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER. SO YOU KIND OF EXPLAINED THAT LEGAL AID DOES THE OPERATIONS, THEY ESSENTIALLY DO THE WORK AND YOU CUT THE CHECKS. UM, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE LEGAL AID HERE TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM. THE QUESTIONS WE ASK, SIR, HAVE TO DO WITH A DAY TO DAY, NOT A PROBLEM. I, I THINK I SAID THAT. UM, AND IF I DIDN'T, I THINK THAT IF THE CITY WANTS TO PARTICIPATE, THAT, UH, THE NEXT THING THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE WOULD BE FOR A MEETING TO BE SET UP WITH, UH, SOMEONE FROM LEGAL AID. AND YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE LOGISTICS OF IT, THEN PRECISELY, YOU KNOW, HOW IT WOULD WORK, HOW IT'S WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SUNRISE, AND MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE, UH, IF YOU WANNA PARTICIPATE. MR. MANNY, HOW MUCH IS THE MAXIMUM THAT A PARTICIPANT CAN RECEIVE FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE? WE DON'T HAVE A STRICT MAXIMUM, UH, CANDIDLY, UM, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE FAMILY. IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH IS OWED IN BACK RENT. IT DEPENDS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PROSPECTS ARE FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL TO BE ABLE TO PAY THE CURRENT OR FUTURE RENT. YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE THEY IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING A JOB OR NOT? I HAVE, IN ADDITION TO FUNDING THE SERVICES, UM, DONATED MONEY TO THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE SIDE ALSO. SO, UM, IF YOU, IF, IF YOU USE THE VERY KIND OF ROUGH METRICS OF IT COST $1,100 PER PERSON THAT WE'RE SAVING, AND THE AVERAGE FAMILY THAT WE'RE SAVING HAS THREE OR FOUR MEMBERS, IT'S PROBABLY IN THE OH TWO TO $4,000 RANGE. BUT WE DON'T HAVE A STRICT MAXIMUM THAT WE WILL PROVIDE. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES, WHAT TYPE OF ANCILLARY SERVICES ARE PROVIDED TO ASSIST THE FAMILY ONCE THE RENT HAS BEEN CAUGHT UP FROM NOT GOING BACK INTO THE SAME SITUATION. SO YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A GREAT QUESTION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, PART OF MY VISION IS FOR THE FUTURE WE HAVE, UH, LEGAL AID, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT, UM, WE REFER OTHERS TO FOLKS LIKE THIS TOO, MAYBE EMPLOYMENT ASSISTANCE, IT MAY BE DRUG OR MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING. UH, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF ANCILLARY SERVICES THAT WE REFER PEOPLE TO. UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL, UM, UH, RIGHT NOW TO SET UP OUR OWN SET OF SERVICES. SO FOR THE MOST PART, UH, IT'S BEEN REFERRING FOLKS TO OTHERS, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR NONPROFITS THAT PROVIDE THESE OTHER KIND OF SERVICES THAT REALLY GO HAND IN HAND WITH MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE SERVING SOMEBODY THAT THEY, THEY, THEY WON'T BE BACK SIX MONTHS LATER, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR MORE ASSISTANCE. SO IT'S A REAL CONCERN OF OURS, AND WE TRY TO WORK WITH A LOT OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY IN-HOUSE EMPLOYMENT ASSISTANCE, LIKE I SAID, MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING, DRUG COUNSELING TYPE OPERATIONS AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU. AFTER THE FIRST INVESTMENT, UH, POTENTIAL FIRST INVESTMENT OF $25,000 IS THE EXPECTATION TO CONTINUE INVESTING IN THE PROGRAM FROM THE CITY OF LAW? TOTALLY. BE TOTALLY UP TO THE CITY. IF THEY'RE HAPPY WITH, UH, THE PROGRAM, THEN YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IF FOR ANY REASON YOU'RE UNHAPPY, THEN I GUESS, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD DECIDE NOT TO. THERE'S, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC EXPECTATIONS AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE, WE WOULD'VE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, AND Y YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'D BE A MEETING WITH LEGAL AID TO, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT SOME OF THE LOGISTICS. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS OF CONCERN TO US IN, IN DOING THIS IS, UM, FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, I WAS FUNDING IT AND THERE WERE VERY LITTLE ADMINISTRATIVE AND, UM, KIND OF REPORTING INVOLVED IN, IN WHAT WE WERE DOING. UH, I WAS DOING THIS REALLY ON MY OWN AND, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY WITH A CITY LIKE YOURS, UH, I'M SURE YOU'D WANT REPORTS ON, YOU KNOW, HOW THE MONEY WAS SPENT, [01:25:01] YOU KNOW, AND, AND DETAILS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATIVELY WILL, UH, MAKE SURE YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH IT. THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH LEGAL AID CAN PROVIDE ON A, YOU KNOW, ONGOING BASIS TO YOU. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT'S KIND OF, IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE MARRY UP FOR THE PROGRAM AND YOU ARE HAPPY AND WE'RE HAPPY, THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE AND EVEN GROW THE RELATIONSHIP, BUT THERE'D BE NO OBLIGATION OR EXPECTATION BEYOND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE, MS. TANYA, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. THE CITY HAD A RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM BEFORE WHERE WE NO LONGER HAVE ANY FUNDS FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM. TELL ME ABOUT THAT PROGRAM. HOW DOES IT DIFFER FROM THIS? HOW WOULD IT DIFFER FROM THIS ONE? OR HOW WOULD THIS ONE DIFFER FROM THE PROGRAM THAT THE CITY HAD THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR? UM, THE PREVIOUS PROGRAM WAS, UM, LAST RUN FROM 2022 TO 2024. THAT PROGRAM WAS, UH, PART OF THE COVID PROCESS AND THOSE FUNDS THAT WERE RELATED TO HELPING PEOPLE AND ASSISTING PEOPLE THROUGH THOSE, UM, PROGRAMS, THAT PROGRAM ACTUALLY HAD A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF ABOUT $20,000 PER PARTICIPANT. AGAIN, UH, I THINK THAT WAS THROUGH THE APA FUND, AND I WOULD HAVE TO REFER TO, UH, FINANCE TO GIVE US THE EXACT AMOUNT THAT WAS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE PROGRAM. BUT THAT PROGRAM DEFINITELY DID BACKGROUND CHECKING AS WELL. IDENTIFIED, UM, THE INCOME AND THE, UH, THE REQUIREMENTS. THERE WAS SOME STRICT REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THOSE FUNDS. SO IT HAD DEFINITELY INCLUDED, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE FUNDS WERE OWED AND THAT THE, UM, PERSON WAS QUALIFIED FINANCIALLY, LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS THAT WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE THOSE FUNDS. FROM YOUR STANDPOINT, WHAT WOULD BE THE ADVANTAGES OF KEEPING THE MONEY IN THE CITY AND ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM AGAIN VERSUS BECOMING A PARTNER WITH MR. MANNY'S FOUNDATION FOR YOU, MADAM MAYOR? UM, I THINK THAT EITHER OPTION WOULD WORK, UH, WELL FOR THE CITY. I DEFINITELY HAD, UM, SOME QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANSWERED IN TERMS OF, ARE THE, UH, RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES ALREADY ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE LEGAL AID? 'CAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE, AND THEN, UM, IF NOT, IS THAT, SO IS THERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS THEM ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE? THAT'S, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WASN'T ABLE TO CLARIFY. AND SO IF THAT BE THE CASE THAT THEY CAN RECEIVE THAT LEGAL AID AND THEN, UM, HOW MANY HOUSEHOLDS WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH MR. MANNING'S PROGRAM BEING THAT IT IS COLLABORATIVE, MAY HAVE AN ABILITY TO HELP MORE PEOPLE. DO YOU MIND MADAM, MADAM VICE MAYOR? YES, MR. THAT WAS THE QUESTION. I THINK EVERYONE IN BROWARD COUNTY CAN GO THROUGH LEGAL AID BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING. WHAT I WOULD PREFER. WE HAD RENTAL ASSISTANCE. THERE IS NO MONEY NOW. I WOULD PREFER US TO PUT OUR OWN MONEY BACK IN. IF WE CAN FIND MONEY IN THE BUDGET, PUT IT RIGHT BACK HERE INTO OUR OWN FUNDS SO THAT WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IS ONLY PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN LAUDERDALE LAKES WHO WOULD'VE BEEN QUALIFIED. SO FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE THAT MS. BOBBY WHO IS LISTENING, AND SINCE SHE'S SICK PERSON IN CHARGE OF BUDGETING, THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN WE WILL DO IT IN HOUSE. COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THE DIFFERENCE TO THE PROGRAM IS THAT THEY HELP WITH, UM, THE LEGAL ASPECT BECAUSE WHEN A, A PERSON IS BEING EVICTED, WE ARE NOT HELPING THEM. ONCE IT REACH TO THE COURTS AND THEY NEED TO PUT THE MONEY IN THE REGISTRY, YOU GUYS ARE NOT HELPING WITH THAT. AND THAT PROCESS GOES VERY, VERY QUICKLY. AND THEN THEY'RE HOMELESS. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT THE LEGAL AID COMPONENT COMES IN TO HELP THEM PREVENT THEM FROM GOING THROUGH. AND IF THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW, THE ATTORNEYS ARE THERE TO HELP THEM NEGOTIATE AND MAYBE, 'CAUSE WE DON'T EVEN NEGOTIATE IF THEY OWE $10,000, DO WE CALL THE LANDLORD AND TRY TO MAKE IT BE LESS MONEY THAT YOU PAY LESS YOU THROUGH YOUR MADAM MAYOR? I, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE DID ANY NEGOTIATION PROCESS, JUST [01:30:01] IDENTIFYING, UM, ELIGIBILITY AS WELL AS HOW MUCH THEY WERE NEEDED TO, UM, STAY IN THE HOME. RIGHT. SO I THINK, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. SO WITH THIS, UM, UM, PROGRAM, THEY HAVE THE LEGAL COMPONENT, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND THEY DON'T, YOU CAN'T AFFORD AN ATTORNEY AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT PART WILL DIFFER. SO I THINK IT WOULD WORK IF WE HAVE, WE COULD HAVE OUR PROGRAM HERE IF WE WANT, AND IF WE HAVE SOMEONE COME TO US THAT IN THE PROCESS OF EVICTION AND YOU CAN'T HELP, THEN THAT'S WHERE THEY COME IN. MS. COMMISSIONER HARRISON. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. UM, I, I, I FEEL LIKE, UH, DOING IT IN-HOUSE WOULD BE A OKAY THING FOR US, AND I THINK WE CAN DO THAT AND STILL PARTNER WITH LEGAL AID. AS FAR AS WITH THE LEGAL ASPECT, UM, I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION RIGHT NOW. UH, I THINK WE SHOULD SPEAK WITH LEGAL AID TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO. UM, BUT I, I THINK RIGHT NOW, THE GENTLEMAN, HIS ROLE THAT HE PLAYS IS JUST TO KIND OF HELP SPONSOR THE OPERATION. SO THE QUESTIONS WE MIGHT HAVE FOR HIM, HE'S NOT EQUIPPED TO BEST ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. AND I THINK IT KIND OF SHOWS THE ANSWERS ARE KIND OF VAGUE, SO I, I THINK HAVING LEGAL AID TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS WILL HELP US GET A BETTER PICTURE OF WHO QUALIFIES, WHAT ARE THE NUANCES. UM, BUT I'M TOTALLY IN FAN OF USING TAXPAYER MONEY OF CITY DOLLARS TO FUND A RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. I KNOW PEOPLE PERSONALLY WHO BENEFITED FROM THAT AND IT, AND IT REALLY HELPED THEM. AND, UM, THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY OF THE CITY ALREADY. MS. TANJA, I'M FINISHED. YES. THANK YOU MS. TANJA. ALSO, IF THE CITY WERE TO RUN THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WOULDN'T THE APPLICANTS WHO QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM ALSO BE ELIGIBLE TO GO TO LEGAL AID? YES. TO SEEK THAT TYPE OF ASSISTANCE THROUGH YOUR MADAM MAYOR. IT'S MY EXPERIENCE THROUGHOUT ANY, UM, CITIES I'VE EVER WORKED OR LIVED IN, YOU DEFINITELY HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO LEGAL AID WHEN YOU ARE BEING EVICTED OR, UM, SOME TYPE OF LANDLORD AND RENTER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS IN PLACE TO HANDLE THOSE ISSUES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MORE QUESTION, MADAM MANAGER. GO AHEAD. MADAM MAYOR, UM, WE HAVE, UM, CHAPLAIN BESSIE DENNIS, WHO HAS HER HAND UP FOR THIS ITEM ONLINE. OH, OKAY. ALRIGHT. CHAPLAIN DENNIS FOR THIS ONE? MM-HMM . HELLO? CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? OH, YES, WE CAN. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. TO EVERYONE IN THE DIOCESE BLESSES TO EVERYONE AND THEIR RESPECTIVE PLACES. UM, YES, I WANTED TO CHIME IN ON THAT BECAUSE I HAVE WORKED IN THE COMMUNITY AS AN ADVOCATE FOR HIV, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE DIAGNOSED, UM, WITH BROWARD HEALTH, UM, AS A TESTER. AND I LEARNED A LOT AS AN OUTREACH, UM, ADVOCATE. UH, THEY ALSO, UM, LEGAL AID ALSO HELP THAT DEMOGRAPHICS. THEY ALSO HELP WITH, UM, ANYONE WHO IS LOW INCOME AND THEY ALSO HELP WITH ANYONE THAT IS RENTING THAT NEEDS ASSISTANCE FOR EVICTIONS. UM, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO THEIR OFFICE ON 4 41 BEFORE YOU GET, IF YOU ARE GOING SOUTH, IT'S BEFORE YOU GET TO BROWARD BOULEVARD, AND IT WOULD BE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET, SO IT'LL BE ON YOUR RIGHT COMING FROM OUR COMMUNITY IN DALE LAKES. BUT YES, THEY DO HELP, UM, ANYONE WHO IS RENTING NO QUESTIONS ASKED IF YOU ARE GETTING EVICTED. SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REDUNDANCY TO WANNA BE A PART OF A PROGRAM BECAUSE YOU SAID WHOEVER THAT WAS THAT SAID, OH, WELL, THEY, THEY DO THE LEGAL PIECE. WILL THEY DO THE LEGAL PIECE WITH OR WITHOUT THIS, THE MANNY PROGRAM. SO I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT. MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU CHAPLAIN DENNIS. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. THANK YOU. UM, YOU ARE WELCOME. THANK YOU. UH, I WOULD SUGGEST IF THE CITY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, MAYBE WE COULD DRAFT SOMETHING THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE HOW WE CAN USE OUR FUNDS FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE. I THINK IF WE WANT TO TAKE UP GOING AFTER RENTAL ASSISTANCE, WE CAN DO THAT AS A CITY. YOU KNOW, MS. TANJA, WE AL ALREADY HAVE A BLUEPRINT FOR THAT FROM OUR PREVIOUS PROGRAM THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. YES, WE DO HAVE A BLUEPRINT FROM OUR PREVIOUS PROGRAM AND WE DO HAVE THE RESOURCES IN, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO, UM, SUPPORT THAT ACTIVITY. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON THROUGH YOU. CAN [01:35:01] WE ASK STAFF AT OUR NEXT WORKSHOP TO BRING FORWARD SOMETHING, MS. TANGER, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR? YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, MS. TANGER. MADAM MANAGER. [C.  DISCUSSION REGARDING A CONTRACT AWARD TO ALL COUNTY STAFFING, INC., PER THE CITY’S PROCUREMENT CODE, SEC. 82-358 (B), WHICH ALLOWS SOLE AND SINGLE SOURCE PROCUREMENTS] MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE C, DISCUSSION REGARDING A CONTRACT TO ALL COUNTY STAFFING, INC. PER THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT CODE SECTION 82 DASH 3 58 B, WHICH ALLOWS SOLE AND SINGLE SOURCE PROCUREMENTS. MS. BOBBY WILLIAMS WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU MS. BOBBY. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, OUR CITY COMMISSIONERS, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY MANAGER, OUR CLERK, OUR STAFF, AND OF COURSE OUR AUDIENCE. FOR THE RECORD, I AM BOBBY WILLIAMS, THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES. AND THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE DO HAVE FOR DISCUSSION ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS, UH, THE DISCUSSION TO CONSIDER A CONTRACT AWARD WITH THE ALL COUNTY STAFFING INCORPORATED AS A SINGLE SOURCE AWARD. AND, UH, THIS, UH, TYPE OF SERVICE THAT THE COMPANY PROVIDES IS VERY NEAR DEAR TO, TO THE, TO THE CITY. AS YOU KNOW, THEY PROVIDE NURSING SERVICES SPECIFICALLY TO OUR ALZHEIMER'S CARE CENTER. UH, SO CURRENTLY THE CITY DOES HAVE AN AGREEMENT, UH, VERY SMALL AGREEMENT WITH ALL COUNTY STAFFING, UH, UP TO ABOUT $24,999 PER YEAR THAT WE USE, UH, THEIR NURSES FOR ON DEMAND SERVICES. WELL, ABOUT A YEAR AGO OR SO, WE EXPANDED, UH, TO PROVIDE IN-HOME RESPITE CARE, UH, TO THOSE CLIENTS THAT WE DO SERVE AT THE CITY. UH, SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THE DEMAND FOR SERVICES HAS GROWN SO MUCH, IT'S SUCH A POPULAR PROGRAM, AND THE CITY DOES WANT TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. UH, SO WHEN WE DETERMINE THAT WE ARE GONNA BE OUT OF, UH, COMPLIANCE IN TERMS OF EXHAUSTING THE AUTHORIZATION THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY, UH, AT THIS POINT WE'LL MAKE A DECISION IF WE NEEDED TO GO OUT TO BID OR IF WE NEEDED TO PERHAPS USE A COOPERATIVE OR PIGGYBACK AGREEMENT. WELL, DISCUSSING THIS, UH, SENSITIVE, UH, SITUATION WITH OUR PARKS AND HUMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE REALLY WANT TO KEEP THE SAME COMPANY THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING BECAUSE OF THE CLIENT RELATIONSHIPS. UH, BECAUSE WE DO NOT WANT TO DISRUPT ANY OF THE PROGRAM GOALS THAT THESE CLIENTS HAVE. WE WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN A RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL COUNTY STAFFING. UH, SO RIGHT NOW WE WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING TO, UH, ESTABLISH A FORMAL AGREEMENT, UH, UP TO $60,000 PER YEAR. UH, IF WE, IF WE DON'T NEED THE SERVICE, WE DON'T, DON'T PLAN ON USING IT. UH, KEEP IN MIND THAT WE USE IT FOR BOTH THIS IN-HOME RESPITE CARE SERVICES AS WELL AS ON DEMAND SERVICES FOR NURSES. AND, UH, SO FAR WE'VE, UH, WORKED WITH ALL COUNTY FOR ABOUT A YEAR OR SO NOW, AND THEY PROVIDE NOTHING BUT, UM, EXCELLENT SERVICES TO OUR CLIENTS. WE'VE GOTTEN RAVE REVIEWS FROM OUR CLIENTS, UH, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT US TO COME BACK TO YOU, UH, WITH AN AGREEMENT WITH ALL COUNTY STAFFING AS A SINGLE SOURCE AWARD. OKAY, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. I KNOW WE HAVE TO DISCUSS IF WE WANT THEM TO COME BACK WITH AGREEMENT, IS THAT CORRECT, MADAM MAYOR? YES. YES. OKAY. I'M JUST MAKING SURE. SORRY. UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE ON, ON, ON THE RESPITE PROGRAM CURRENTLY ARE SUBSCRIBED TO THAT PROGRAM AT THIS TIME? UH, YOU MADAM MAYOR, I LIKE TO CALL THE, THE RESIDENT EXPERT, MS. ERIC LOCKETT, WHO CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS ON THE ACTUAL PROGRAM ITSELF. THANK YOU, MS. ERICA. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, PROTOCOL ESTABLISHED ERICA LOCKETT, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND HUMAN SERVICES. UM, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, FOR IN FACILITY, WE HAVE 28 CLIENTS FOR IN-HOME RESPITE, WE HAVE 10 CLIENTS. SO, UM, THE NURSES COME OUT AND THEY PROVIDE SERVICES TO OUR, WELL, THEY GO OUT TO THE HOMES AND PROVIDE, UM, SERVICES TO OUR IN-HOME RESPITE CLIENTS. THEY ALSO COME OUT, UM, ON A AS NEEDED BASIS IN FACILITY. THEY PROVIDE, UM, RESPITE SERVICES. WHEN ONE OF OUR STAFF GOES ON VACATION, ESPECIALLY OUR LPN, WE HAVE TO HAVE A LPN IN THE BUILDING AT ALL TIMES. WE TRY TO FLUCTUATE WITH OUR CNAS, HOWEVER THINGS HAPPEN, AND WE HAVE TO CALL IN AGENCY. MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UM, WITH THIS ADDITIONAL, OR WITH THIS 60,000 THAT WE'RE ASSUMING WE INVEST, HOW MUCH MORE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE WITH THE 60,000? OKAY. UM, PROBABLY ABOUT MAYBE SIX CLIENTS. SO IN TOTAL WE'LL HAVE SIX ADDITIONAL CLIENTS. THAT'S THREE, THREE AMOUNT OF MERIT. THAT'S IF WE USE THE FULL 60,000, YES, WE CAN, WE CAN, UM, TAKE IT TO SIX ADDITIONAL CLIENTS. WE DON'T PLAN ON USING THAT, BUT WE ASK FOR THAT JUST TO HAVE SOME CUSHION SO WE WON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION. MAD MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON, WHEN WE SAY THIS, THIS PROGRAM IS POPULAR AND WE NEED TO BRING IN MORE PEOPLE, DO WE HAVE A DEMAND OF ONLY [01:40:01] SIX PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO WELL DO YOU MADAM MAYOR ERICA? WE ARE LICENSED TO SERVE 48 IN FACILITY, AND AS MANY AS WE CAN HANDLE, UM, IN-HOME RESPITE, UM, WE GET MONEY FROM THE STATE, UM, AND WE HAVE TO UTILIZE THAT FUNDING, OR WE WILL NOT GET THE FUNDING IS MORE THAN LIKELY WE WON'T GET THE FUNDING AGAIN. SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS SPEND OUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. MADAM MAYOR, SO FOR GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. SO YOU FINISH, SO PUT IT IN CONTEXT FOR IN, FOR IN-HOME RESPITE WE HAD ABOUT $62,000. AND WHAT WE TRY TO DO, WE TRY TO OFFER IT TO OUR CLIENTS FIRST BEFORE WE GO OUT AND PULL FROM THE LIST FROM, UM, AREA WIDE, COUNTY AREA WIDE, A DRC. I'LL JUST PUT IT LIKE THAT. THANK YOU. WHAT I WAS ASKING WAS, IF WE ASSESS THAT THERE'S A DEMAND, DID THAT DEMAND REACH ONLY SIX PEOPLE? IS THAT THE NUMBER OF DEMAND THAT'S OUT THERE? HOW BIG IS THE DEMAND? 'CAUSE THIS CAN ONLY COVER SIX PEOPLE. MAYBE WE GOTTA INVEST ANOTHER 60,000 MS. LOCKETT. SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE AMOUNT OF THE DEMAND THAT'S OUT THERE? BECAUSE WE JUST STOPPING AT SIX THAT MAY NOT MEET THE DEMAND. WE'RE, WE'RE STOPPING AT SIX BECAUSE THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF, UM, PEOPLE WE CAN TAKE WITH THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING WE HAVE. SO THE SIX ADDITIONAL WOULD BE 16 IN-HOME RESPITE PLUS OUR 18 IN FACILITY RESPITE. MM-HMM . VICE MAYOR? NO, I, I'M SATISFIED WITH MS. ERICA, BUT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT YOU DID IN-HOUSE RESPITE. IT'S ON THE FLYER. MR. THOMAS. YEAH. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, ME BEING IN HEALTH FIELD, I WOULD GIVE ALL THE MONEY TO THE RESPITE FOR THE CAREGIVERS BECAUSE IT'S SO NEEDED, UM, TO GIVE A PAUSE TO THOSE IN HOME THAT, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH, UM, THE PROCESS OF CAREGIVING. SO THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICES TO THE CAREGIVERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM AND, UM, I'M ALL FOR GIVING THE FUNDING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. SORRY, COMMISSIONER HARRIS. I JUST WANNA SAY FOR THE RECORD, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM TOO, AND I'M ALL IN SUPPORT OF IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. ERICA, MISS BOBBY, ANYTHING ELSE? MATTER MANAGER, MS. ERIC? [D.  DISCUSSION REGARDING SECURING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A COMMITTEE THAT WILL SPEARHEAD THE EFFORT OF ESTABLISHING A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE] ITEM NUMBER FIVE D DISCUSSION REGARDING SECURING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A COMMITTEE THAT WILL SPEARHEAD THE EFFORT OF ESTABLISHING A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU. PROTOCOL ALREADY ESTABLISHED FOR THE RECORD OF VECA BUCHANAN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. THE ITEM IS RELATED TO THE EFFORTS SPEARHEADED BY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD. AS OUR ACTING CITY MANAGER ALLUDED IN FOSTERING ESTABLISHMENT OF A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HERE IN LAUDERDALE LAKES, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSION. YOU MAY REMEMBER ON MAY 14TH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD HOSTED A MEET AND GREET AND GROW GATHERING, WHICH WAS THE FIRST INITIATIVE CREATED TO STRENGTHEN CONNECTIONS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES. AT THE EVENT BOARD MEMBERS HIGHLIGHTED THE ADVANTAGE OF ESTABLISHING A LOCAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, OUTLINED THE INCORPORATION OF THE PROCESS AND INCORPORATED AND ENCOURAGE BUSINESS OWNERS TO GET INVOLVED. NEARLY 43 BUSINESSES, INCLUDING GUESTS WERE ATTENDED AN EVENT EXPRESSING THEIR INTEREST IN SUPPORTING THESE EFFORTS. SO IN THE AUDIENCE, I HAVE A MEMBER OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD, MR. PATRICK GREEN, THAT, UM, HE WANTS TO INFORM AND GIVE INFORMATION ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE EFFORTS OF THE CHAMBER AND THE RESOURCES THAT WILL BE NEEDED. MR. GREEN, UH, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY MANAGER, CITY CLERK, CITY ATTORNEY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ACCOMMODATING ME THIS EVENING. I'M FEELING EXTREMELY EXCITED. UM, AROUND A YEAR AGO, I ASKED THE QUESTION, WHY IS IT THAT OUT OF EIGHT CITIES WITHIN OUR VICINITY, DALE LAKES IS THE ONLY ONE WITHOUT A CHAIN OF COMMERCE, WHICH IS AN ENGINE OF GROWTH FOR EVERY SINGLE CITY THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT. AND SO I BECAME PART OF, UM, THE EITHER BOARD AND TRY [01:45:01] TO PUSH GETTING A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE INTO THE CITY. UM, THE EXCITEMENT THAT TOOK PLACE AROUND A MONTH AGO, UM, UH, MADAM MAYOR, I, I AM, UH, I'M REALLY EXCITED BY THAT. AS WAS MENTIONED, THERE WERE AROUND, UH, 40 PERSONS IN ATTENDANCE, UM, AND THEY WERE FILLED WITH ENTHUSIASM TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS THING GOING. THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY WANT TO KNOW IS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY CAN PROVIDE AND PRODUCE SO THAT THE CITY, THE GOVERNMENT, AND THE PEOPLE CAN BENEFIT FROM A REALLY GOOD FUNCTION IN BUSINESS COMMUNITY. UM, SINCE THAT MEETING LAST, UH, MONTH, WE HAVE CREATED A WHATSAPP GROUP. UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE AROUND 26 MEMBERS INSIDE THERE. UM, OUR NEXT FUNCTION IS GOING TO BE, UM, A GET TOGETHER OF THOSE ME WELL QUOTE UNQUOTE MEMBERS, WHERE WE WILL START TO LOOK AT CREATING THE STRUCTURE FOR THE CHAMBER. UM, IT'S GONNA MEAN LOOKING AT THE BYLAWS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ADOPT IT, UH, AND MOVE FORWARD. UM, IT IS GOING TO BE REGISTERING THE, UM, THE ORGANIZATION AS WELL, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FULLY FUNCTIONAL IN THAT AREA. UM, WE'LL ALSO PUT TOGETHER AN INTERIM BOARD THAT WILL FUNCTION, UM, FOR THE CHINA BEING UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER AND OFFICIALLY, UM, HAVE AN ELECTED BOARD TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE SOME OF THE FUNCTIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING. UM, A FEW THINGS THAT WE NEED IN TERMS OF RESOURCES. SO TO GET THINGS KICK OFF, WE WOULD, UH, NEED TO REGISTER. SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME, SOME FUNDING OR SOME HELP IN THAT REGARD. UM, WE WILL DEFINITELY NEED TO PUT TOGETHER A FUNCTIONAL WEBSITE TO BE ABLE TO PASS ON INFORMATION. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, UM, MADAM MAYOR, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FUNCTIONAL BOARD OR COMMITTEES TO BE ABLE TO, UH, HELP US THROUGH THIS, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DONE WILL HAVE TO BE AUTOMATED. SO PROVIDING INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE ONE SUCH THING. AND, UM, AND SO HAVING A WEBSITE IS GOING TO BE VERY USEFUL IN THAT. SO THAT BECOMES KIND OF THE FIRST THING THAT WE WANT TO DO AFTER ESTABLISHING A NEW BOARD OR AN INTERIM BOARD, UM, AND THEN PUT TOGETHER SOME COMMITTEES, UM, IN CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THE PERSONS WHO WERE IN ATTENDANCE, UH, LAST MONTH, UH, THEY'RE PRETTY EXCITED TO GET ON THE, ON THE, THE INTERIM BOARD TO START WORKING AND START GETTING THE 700 OR SO BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY START BECOMING A PART OF THIS. WE WANT TO UNIFY AND TO EMPOWER THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY SO THAT THE CITY CAN BECOME BETTER, OUR RESIDENTS CAN BECOME BETTER, AND OUR BUSINESS CAN FLOURISH. AND AS I'VE SAID TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WHEN OUR BUSINESSES FLOURISH, WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE SPILL OFF THAT TAKES PLACE FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF TAXES, ALLOWS THE GOVERNMENT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITIES IN MORE WAYS THAN THEY CAN CURRENTLY DO AT THIS TIME, MAKING SURE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S THERE, UM, FOR OUR RESIDENTS. UM, SO I, I WANTED TO BRING SOME NUMBERS TO SEE WHAT IS IT THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FORWARD TO IN TERMS, UH, FROM THE, FROM THE COMMISSION. UM, BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO IS, BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING THAT MEETING ON THE 25TH, I LOVE TO WORK IN A DEMOCRACY. AND SO I WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THAT POINT TO SEE WHERE WE'LL NEED TO GO IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS TO WHAT WE WOULD REQUEST FROM THE, UM, THE COMMISSION TO HELP US IN THAT REGARD. OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT'S A BUSINESS COMMUNITY, WE WILL GET, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER RESOURCES FROM THE BUSINESSES ALREADY. THE PERSONS HAVE GIVEN THEIR PLACES SO THAT WE CAN MEET THERE. UM, IN INTERIM, THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE BUSINESSES WHO HAVE SAID TO US, IF YOU NEED TO HAVE A MEETING, COME THERE AND HAVE THE MEETING. AND WE DO KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH THE CITY HAS SOME LOCATIONS, SOME OF THE TIMES THOSE LOCATIONS ARE VERY HARD TO GET BECAUSE THE CITY HAS SO MANY OTHER EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE. SO THE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY ARE THOSE WHO ATTENDED THAT MEETING. THEY'RE VERY EXCITED. UM, THEY'RE READY. UM, I'M READY TO KINDA, YOU KNOW, TAKE THIS FORWARD AND, AND I REALLY HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION IS READY TO EMBARK ON THIS. UM, WE HAVE NOT HAD A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DISCUSSION FOR A VERY LONG TIME TODAY. THAT IS GONNA CHANGE, UM, UH, MADAM MAYOR. UM, AND WITH YOUR HELP AND THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSION AND OF COURSE THE, THE, THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY, I THINK WE ARE GOING TO EMBARK ON SOMETHING THAT IS GONNA BE SO BENEFICIAL AND SO BEAUTIFUL FOR A CITY. I THE QUESTIONS MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU. MR. SORRY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO? GO AHEAD PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THAT. MY COLLEAGUE. YES, MA'AM. UM, THANK YOU MR. GREEN FOR GIVING THAT [01:50:01] ELABORATE, ARTICULATING SO WELL, BUT I STILL DID NOT HEAR IN TERMS OF MONETARY WISE WHAT YOU WOULD REQUIRE FROM THE, THE CHAMBER, YOU KNOW, COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION, WHAT YOU WOULD REQUIRE. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, UM, I HOPE THAT SOMETHING WOULD'VE COME TO US AND SAYING, I HEARD YOU SAY TO REGISTER A WEBSITE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? A THOUSAND DOLLARS, 3000? WHAT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE LOOKING AT AROUND $4,500 BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT I, UH, CALCULATED BEFORE COMING HERE, MADAM CHAIRMAN, THAT WOULD GIVE US, UM, A GOOD FUNCTIONING WEBSITE. IT WILL ALLOW US TO DO THE REGISTRATION PROCESS. IT WILL ALLOW US TO ALSO HAVE A LAUNCH EVENT WHERE WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, MORE, MORE BUSINESSES TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE, KINDA GET THE THING, UH, KICK OFF, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE PUBLICITY IS THERE AS WELL. SO WE WILL DO SOME STUFF ON, UH, ON FACEBOOK, ON WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO GET THAT FUNCTION, THAT THOSE ARE THE KIND OF NUMBERS THAT WE'RE PAYING THIS FUNCTION. MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU. SO THIS IS JUST BEING PUT OUT THERE IN THE AIR. CAN WE HAVE AN ITEMIZED? UM, I DEFINITELY SUPPLY THAT. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, YOU DONE? YES, MR. HARRIS. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UM, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, I WANTED TO ASK THIS, THE CITY ATTORNEY A, A QUESTION. UM, I KNOW, UH, MR. GREEN MENTIONED ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE MEETING THAT HE'S LOOKING TO FORM. WILL THIS BE SUNSHINE, MR. ATTORNEY? MR. CALLWAY? IT IS A MEETING OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT PART OF AN ADVISORY BOARD. UH, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WOULD BE A NOT-FOR-PROFIT ENTITY, UH, NOT RELATED, UH, AS A GOVERNMENT AFFILIATE, BUT A NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION. SO THE EXTENT TO WHICH, UM, THEY ARE COMPOSING THE MEMBERSHIP OR BOARD MEMBERS OF THIS RESPECTIVE ORGANIZATION, UH, THERE WOULD BE NO SUNSHINE REQUIREMENT AT, AT, AT LEAST BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE, YES. AT THIS POINT, YES. UM, MADAM, UH, MR. GREEN, I, I'M ALWAYS IN SUPPORT OF THE CHAMBER, YOU KNOW, THIS, UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE CITY PARTNERING WITH THE CHAMBER. I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING TO REMIND THE COLLEAGUES THAT THE PROPOSAL IS THAT THIS CHAMBER WILL NOT BE A CITY PROGRAM. THIS IS NOT A CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS. SO WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL HOW WE'RE, TO WHAT EXTENT WE'RE RESOURCING SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REALLY BELONG TO US, SO WE CAN SUPPORT THE CHAMBER. UM, I THINK WHAT MR. GREEN IS ASKING FOR IS A WEBSITE, UM, MONEY FOR SPACE. I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN DO, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO KIND OF NOT, NOT, NOT FALL INTO FULLY BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR A CHAMBER THAT IS NOT EVEN OURS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BUSINESS PEOPLE A PART OF THE CHAMBER THAT COULD SPONSOR AS WELL. UM, THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING MR. GREEN FROM COMING BACK AGAIN, ASKING FOR MORE MONEY , WHICH IS OKAY 'CAUSE I, I WANT TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THE CHAMBER. I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT. BUT, UM, JUST, JUST SOME PERSPECTIVE THERE THAT THE CHAMBER IS BEING PROPOSED TO BE SEPARATE FROM THE CITY, WHICH I DO AGREE WITH AS WELL. UM, MAYBE WE CAN HELP SPONSOR, YOU KNOW, SOME MEETING SPACE. THERE CAN BE A PARTNERSHIP THERE, BUT I THINK IF WE LOSE PERSPECTIVE ON WHERE WE ARE VERSUS THE CHAMBER, WE MIGHT GET LULLED INTO THINKING, OH, THE CHAMBER'S A CITY CHAMBER WE HAVE TO DO. AND REALLY WE DON'T BECAUSE THE, THE, UM, IT'S NOT SUNSHINE. SO IF YOU PUT SO MUCH GOVERNMENT MONEY INTO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT SUNSHINE. HAVE YOU GUYS HAD MEETINGS ALREADY? MR. GREEN TO YOU, MADAM? UH, MADAM MAYOR. SO THE GET TOGETHER, THE MEET AND GREET THAT WE HAD LAST MONTH IS, WAS THE FIRST OFFICIAL LAUNCH THAT WE HAD. THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 25TH IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA SIT DOWN AND REALLY KIND OF PUT STUFF TOGETHER IN TERMS OF A STRUCTURE. UM, AND IF YOU, IF I MAY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE CITY. SO THIS IS NOT A CITY FUNCTIONARY ORGANIZATION. UM, WHAT I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCES IN SPEAKING WITH SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE BOARD MEMBERS FROM OTHER CITIES IS THAT THE CITIES IN THE INITIAL STAGES, THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF SUPPORT. IN FACT, I HAD A CONVERSATION THIS MORNING WITH, UM, SOMEBODY FROM ANOTHER CHAMBER WHO SAID THAT ONE OF THE THING THAT THE CITY DOES IS THAT THE CITY BECOMES A, ONE OF THE SPONSORS. SO YOU HAVE A LIST OF MEMBERSHIP, UM, THE CITY WILL SPONSOR, UM, SOMETHING FOR THE CHAMBER, AND THAT IS HOW THEY GET INVOLVED. [01:55:01] MY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT THIS BENEFITS THE CITY PROBABLY MORE THAN SOME OF THE BUSINESSES BECAUSE OF WHAT CAN COME OUT OF THIS. SO I, I BELIEVE THE CITY HAS TO SEE THIS AS AN INVESTMENT FOR NO ONE FOR THE FUTURE. I UNDERSTAND THE SUNSHINE LAWS AND YOU DON'T WANT TO MIX BOTH, BUT IF THE CITY CAN FIND A WAY TO GET INVOLVED WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING THAT, IT HAS TO BE SEEN AS INVESTMENT, JUST LIKE HOW YOU INVEST IN THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO FOR THE CITY. THAT'S KINDA WHERE I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET STUFF. COMMISSIONER HARRISON, IF I CAN, I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU, PATRICK. I AGREE. I THINK, UM, IN THE INITIAL STAGES, THE CITY SHOULD BE INVOLVED. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A RELATIONSHIP THERE. UM, I JUST, UH, MY CONCERN IS THAT IF WE'RE NOT CLEAR ABOUT THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, WE'RE GONNA BE INVESTING IN SOMETHING A LITTLE, I HATE TO SAY TOO MUCH, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE TREATING SOMETHING AS IF IT'S A CITY ARM, AN ARM OF THE CITY, WHICH, WHICH IT ISN'T. UM, THE MEET AND GREET AND GROW WAS A E DAB EVENT USED BY CITY RESOURCES PROMOTED BY THE CITY. SO THAT WASN'T A CHAMBER EVENT, IT WAS EVENT FOR THE CHAMBER FOR THE FORMATION OF A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, BUT THAT EAB WAS A, THAT MEET AND GREET WAS AN EAB EVENT. IT WAS A CITY EVENT. UM, MY QUESTION TO MR. GREEN WAS, YOU MENTIONED THERE'S 26 MEMBERS OF WHAT SEC GROUP. HAVE YOU GUYS HAD FORMAL MEETINGS ALREADY UP TO THIS POINT? WELL, UH, MR. GREEN TO YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN, UH, WHAT I'VE SAID BEFORE, UH, COMMISSIONER, IS THAT THE MEET AND GREET WAS THE FIRST INCIDENT THAT WE GOT TOGETHER. THE SECOND ONE IS GOING TO BE ON JUNE 25TH. SO THAT IS WHEN WE ARE GOING TO TRY AND, AND FLESH OUT STRUCTURE, OPERATIONAL STUFF AND SO FORTH AND SO ON TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO FOR THE NEXT TIME WE'RE GONNA GET TOGETHER IS GOING TO BE ON JUNE 25TH. MADAM MAYOR, MR. HARRISON, SO THE, THE GROUP THAT YOU HAVE WITH THESE MEMBERS, THESE 26, YOU GUYS HAVE NOT HAD A MEETING, FORMAL MEETING AS OF YET? WE HAVEN'T. OKAY. OKAY. MADAM VICE MAYOR, I WAS MR. PATRICK, IS IT GOING TO BE A FOR-PROFIT, EXCUSE ME, OR IS NOT FOR-PROFIT? WELL, WHAT THANK MADAM CHAIRMAN. MADAM MAYOR. MADAM MAYOR, RIGHT. UM, WHAT WE WILL DO, UM, BEFORE DECIDING ON A REGISTRATION IS WE WILL, UH, HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AMONG, UH, THOSE PERSONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE ON THE 25TH. UM, WHAT WE WILL DO WILL CHOOSE THE BEST OPTION THAT WILL BENEFIT THE ORGANIZATION, UM, AS WELL AS THE, THE, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. UM, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF IT IS GOING TO BE A, A NON-PROFIT OR A FOR-PROFIT. I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE CHAMBERS THAT ARE FOR-PROFIT AND I DO KNOW, DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE CHAMBERS THAT ARE ALSO NON-PROFIT AS WELL. OKAY. MADAM MAYOR, YOUR HAIR. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE CHAMBER ALL AND UH, I AM, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT, BUT ALSO I WANNA ALSO SAY, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR ME BRING UP EVERY TIME, AGAIN, THIS ONE IS SEPARATE FROM THE CITY AND THE REASON WHY IS NOT TO HINDER, BUT I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT IF THIS CHAMBER IS SEPARATE FROM THE CITY, WE COULD DO MORE. I BELIEVE IN THAT, BUT THAT ALSO SAYS WE HAVE WORK TO DO. YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THESE INVESTORS WHO'S INVESTING IN THE CHAMBER AND ASK THEM FOR HELP BEFORE YOU COME TO US. I THINK YOU HAVE TO UTILIZE THOSE. THEY'RE BUSINESS PEOPLE, THEY OWN BUSINESSES. THEY, THEY'RE MORE THAN JUST GIVEN SPACE. THEY CAN SPONSOR MY BROTHER, THEY CAN SPONSOR A WEBSITE. YOU TALK ABOUT OTHER CITIES, LOOK WHAT THE OTHER INVESTORS ARE DOING IN THEIR CHAMBERS. THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING YOU'RE ASKING US FOR. SO WE ARE NOT HERE TO JUST KNOCK ON THE DOOR. WE GIVE REESE EVERY SINGLE TIME WE WANT TO HELP IN THE INITIAL STAGES AND I BELIEVE WE WILL. I CAN FIGHT FOR THAT, BUT I'M GONNA BRING IT UP EVERY TIME. WE ARE SEPARATE, WE ARE SEPARATE ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF GOING ON. THEY HAVE TO KNOW, GO THROUGH THE CHAMBER, PEOPLE HAVE A COMPLAINT, NOT COME TO CITY HALL, GO THROUGH THE CHAMBER. BUT IF WE JUST KEEP SUPPLYING IT, SUPPLYING IT, PEOPLE ARE GONNA ASK, WELL, MY TAXPAYER DOGS ARE GOING TO THIS EVERY SINGLE TIME. SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE PERSPECTIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, YOU, WE GOTTA HUSTLE SOME MORE AND TALK TO THESE BUSINESS OWNERS AND PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME FROM THEM. OKAY? YEP. THE GREEN, YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM MAYOR. UM, AND, AND I DON'T WANT THIS TO FORCE TO CONFUSE THE ISSUE OF WHERE THE CHAMBER LIES AND WE ARE THE CITY LIES. WE DO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO BE SEPARATE ENTITIES, UM, FOR GOVERNMENT RULES AND REGULATION PURPOSES. UM, MY PRESENCE HERE TODAY IS NOT TO SEE THE CITY SHOULD TAKE OVER AND RUN. IN FACT, I, I MEAN I CAN SAY THIS THAT AS, AS PART OF THE EDA BOARD, UH, IF I'M GONNA BECOME INVOLVED WITH THE CHAMBER, I'M GONNA HAVE TO RESIGN MY POSITION FROM THE EDA [02:00:01] BOARD. AND I'M PREPARED TO DO THAT BECAUSE AS I SAID TO YOU A YEAR AGO WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, I'M WONDER WHY IN HEAVEN'S NAME WE DON'T HAVE ONE. SO I'M PREPARED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND SAY, HEY LISTEN, THIS IS A PRIVATE ENTITY THAT WE WANT TO RUN. I'M GONNA GO BACK AND SAY THOUGH THAT THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE THE CITIES HAVE HELPED IN THE EARLY STAGES GET IT OFF THE GROUND AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL FUNCTIONING BY THEMSELVES. AND THAT'S KINDA REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE, IS THAT I WAS AT A MEETING AT LAUDER HILL LAST MONTH, UH, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WAS THERE SEEKING FUNDING FOR THEIR OPERATIONS. SO I DO KNOW THAT CITIES DO HELP THE CHAMBERS IN, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT WAYS. BUT MY QUESTION THEN IS TO HUMANA MAYOR IS HOW CAN THE CITY HELP, RIGHT? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT CAN THE CITY DO TO HELP US AT THIS POINT THEN TO BE ABLE TO MOVE TO THE NEXT LEVEL THAT WE WANT TO GET TO GO? ALRIGHT, MAYOR COMMISSIONER HARRISON. THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I THINK WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN, UM, I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD COME UP WITH THIS ITEMIZED LIST AS MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED AND COME BACK TO US WITH SAY, LISTEN, COMMISSION, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DECIDED TO PUT UP. CAN YOU HELP MATCH THIS? OR CAN YOU WORK WITH US ON THIS? UM, BUT EVEN THEN IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING REASONABLE, YOU KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT HAS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP. UM, IT HAS TO BE, UH, IN THE EARLY STAGES RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO LIKE, IN A RELATIONSHIP KIND OF SET BOUNDARIES, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD HELP IN THESE EARLY STAGES. I THINK THE CITY IS WILLING TO HELP. WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT PROVIDING CITY SPACES, UM, PUBLICLY WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. SO THAT'S ONE. UM, PAYING FOR A WEBSITE THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. UM, TO BE HONEST, OUR, OUR OWN WEBSITE ISN'T EVEN COMPLETELY UP TO PAR. SO WE'RE LOOKING BUILDING A CHAMBER OF CONFERENCE, RIGHT? IT'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON, SO I JUST DON'T, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS ISN'T SEEN AS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BACK FOR OUR MONTHLY ALLOWANCE FROM THE CITY. MR. GREEN, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN. UM, VERIFY FROM THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU. UH, IT'S VERY FAR FROM THAT AND I WANT TO LEAVE YOUR FEARS ASIDE. UM, AND FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, AS IF THE THAT THOUGHT PROCESS IS LINGERING YOUR MIND THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER THE CITY AS A ATM MACHINE OR AN ATM, UM, WHERE WE WITHDRAW MONEY EACH MONTH TO TAKE CARE OF OPERATIONS. THERE ARE NEARLY 700 BUSINESSES THAT EXIST IN THE CITY. UM, I AM PRETTY, PRETTY SURE THAT WE CAN FIND SOME RESOURCES AS WE BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE MATURE IN TAKING OVER THE ENTIRE OPERATION OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO. UM, AND SO THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING. WE ARE JUST WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY WILL BE ABLE TO HELP US JUST GET OFF THE GROUND, RIGHT? SO WE ARE AT THE BABY STAGE RIGHT NOW. WE PROBABLY NEED A, A, A, A LEARNING WHEEL, A TRAINING WHEEL TO KIND OF GET ON. ONCE WE GET THAT, WE ARE GOOD TO GO. UM, IN THE END THIS HAS SOME TREMENDOUS BENEFIT FOR THE CITY AND, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WILL DOUBT THAT. AND SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING THEN IS THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO YOU MENTION PARTNERSHIP, BUT PARTNERSHIP HAS TO GO BEYOND PROVIDING A SPACE. I JUST SAID A WHILE AGO THAT WE HAVE THREE MEMBERS WHO ARE WILLING TO GIVE US SPACE TO BE ABLE TO MEET. SO OUR MEETING SPACE IS NOT CONSIDERED SOMETHING THAT IS TANGIBLE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO GET US OFF THOSE TRAINING WHEELS. UM, WE WILL ALSO GET FUNDING OR SOURCES OR RESOURCES FROM THE MEMBERS OR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD. UM, BUT WE'RE AT THAT DELICATE STAGE AT THIS POINT, YES. AND WE NEED TO KINDA GET SOME THINGS GOING AND, AND PEOPLE, WHEN THEY START TO SEE SOMETHING POSITIVE STARTS HAPPENING, THEN THEY WILL START, WILL LET GET PART OF THIS AND MOVE FORWARD AND THEN WE CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, GOODBYE TO THE CITY. WE LOVE YOU, WE APPRECIATE YOU, WE ARE ON OUR OWN. NOW LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE CITY GREATER THAN IT'S COMMISSIONER. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. THANK YOU SO MUCH MADAM MAYOR. UH, MR. GREEN AND I STILL STAND WITH IT AND I HEARD MY COLLEAGUE WAS IN AGREEMENT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, BRINGING BACK TO US ITEMIZED SO THAT WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO ASSIST OR NOT ASSIST TO MOVE YOU FORWARD. 'CAUSE IT IS EXCITING. IT REALLY IS EXCITING TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING AND TO REACHING THIS POINT NOW, YOU KNOW, OF WHERE IT IS. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE WITH THAT. AFTER YOUR MEETING, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS? NO, I CAN GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. OH, OH. UM, A QUESTION I'D ASKED WAS, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT COLLABORATING WITH LAUDER HILL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND COMBINING IT TOGETHER WITH LAUDERDALE LAKES? MR. GREEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO YOU. UM, MADAM MAYOR, UM, THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE COULD HAVE. I MEAN, I, I, I DON'T INTEND TO MAKE THAT DECISION, UH, BY MYSELF, BUT IT IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE COULD [02:05:01] HAVE. UM, I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT HAVE COLLABORATED, UM, AND, AND THIS RUN THE OPERATION, RIGHT? I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT LAUDER HILL WOULD BE, UH, OPPOSED TO OR IN AGREEMENT WITH. UM, THAT DISCUSSION WOULD HAVE TO BE HAD WITH THEM AS WELL. UM, AND JUST KINDA SEEK, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE NEED IS WE NEED TO HAVE A LARGER LEAGUES, UM, BUSINESS COMMUNITY FUNCTIONING IN A PROSPEROUS WAY. AND WE FEEL THAT A CHAIN OF COMMERCE THAT SITS IN LORD DE LAKES WOULD PROBABLY DO MORE GOOD AT THAT LEVEL. MM-HMM . UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M LOOKING AT, BUT I, I PERSONALLY AM OPEN TO ANYTHING THAT WILL ACHIEVE THAT GOAL. SO IF IT MEANS COLLABORATING WITH ANOTHER CITY TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE, I'M ALL INFERRED. AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY WILL BENEFIT, AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. MR. GREEN, AFTER YOUR MEETING ON THE 25TH WITH YOUR 26TH, OR NOT YOUR, BUT WITH THE 26TH, UH, MEMBERS, AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING, YOU ALL DISCUSS YOUR GOALS, WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, THEN I THINK WE CERTAINLY WILL BE INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT SO WE CAN HAVE SOME TYPE OF TIMELINE INFORMATION, AND THEN WE MAY HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF POSSIBLY WHAT THE CITY CAN DO. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH BY THE MAYOR, UM, OR . THANK YOU, SIR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. THAT IT? YES. THANK YOU, MS. CLE. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU. NO, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU MS. CLE. [E.  DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE FOR HIRING A NEW CITY MANAGER (SPONSORED BY MAYOR EDWARDS PHILLIPS)] MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE E DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE FOR HIRING A NEW CITY MANAGER. THIS ITEM IS SPONSORED BY MAYOR EDWARDS PHILLIPS. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE EMBARKING ON, OR HAVE EMBARKED ON THE PROCESS OF HIRING A NEW CITY MANAGER. AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE DID GIVE OUR FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT THE GO AHEAD TO START ON THAT PROCEDURE. SO MADAM MANAGER, MS. BOBBY WILL GIVE THAT REPORT. I'M, THAT'S NOT A DIRECTOR FROM ME. I'M ASKING YOU THAT. YES, MADAM MAYOR. MS. WILLIAMS, IF YOU'LL PROCEED. THANK YOU, MS. WILLIAMS. UH, AGAIN, GOOD EVENING. I THINK OUR PROTOCOL HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED, BUT FOR THE RECORD, I AM BOBBY WILLIAMS, ONCE AGAIN, THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES. UH, SO AS YOU NOTED MADAM MAYOR, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS THAT THE COMMISSION WILL, WILL MAKE IN HIS TENURE. AND, UH, AT OUR MAY 27TH WORKSHOP, UH, THE COMMISSION DID, UH, GIVE THE, UH, THREE TO ONE CONSENSUS TO CITY STAFF TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THE PREPARATION OF THIS, OF THIS HUGE TASK. UH, SO ONE OF THE, UM, THE TASKS THAT WE DID COMMIT TO AT THE LAST WORKSHOP WAS TO BRING BACK TO YOU A, UH, COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF DIFFERENT FIRMS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UH, BEING OUR EXECUTIVE FIRM FOR, FOR HIRE. WE HAD SEVERAL CONTRACTS IN HAND, BUT IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO TAKE ABOUT 50 CONTRACTS TO FIGURE OUT WHICH CONTRACTS TO BRING FORWARD TO, TO, UH, THE COMMISSION TO ACTUALLY REVIEW AND MAKE A DECISION UPON. UH, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID DO, UH, WAS PREPARE A SOLICITATION OR REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, AND WE HAVE, UH, POSTED IT ON OUR E PLATFORM. I WAS ASKING YOU TO COME A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE, WE HAVE POSTED IT ON OUR E PLATFORM, WHICH IS DEMAND STAR.COM, AND A COPY OF THE COMPLETE SOLICITATION IS ALSO PART OF YOUR PACKET. UH, SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS, OF COURSE, GET YOUR DIRECTION AND MAKE SURE WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS OR NEEDS THAT YOU HAVE FOR THIS PARTICULAR FIRM. UM, SO AS A PART OF THE PACKET, UH, WE PREPARED A SCOPE TO FIND THE FIRM. I JUST WANNA READ THE, THE, THE SCOPE REALLY QUICKLY, UH, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE AUDIENCE, BUT ALSO TO GO OVER THE TIMELINE TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT YOU AGREE WITH THE SCOPE AND YOU AGREE WITH THE TIMELINE. UH, SO THE SCOPE THAT, UH, THAT WE DID PUT TOGETHER FOR THE EXECUTIVE FIRM READS AS SUCH, UH, WELL, THE CITY MANAGER SERVES AS THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER APPOINTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION, AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAILY OPERATIONS OF CITY GOVERNMENT POLICY, IMPLEMENTATION, AND LONG-TERM STRATEGIC PLANNING. WE ARE SEEKING A SEASONED LEADER WHO CAN FOSTER A HIGH PERFORMANCE ORGANIZATIONAL CULTURE, ENGAGE EFFECTIVELY WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND LEAD WITH TRANSPARENCY, VISION, AND INTEGRITY, THE SCOPE OF SERVICES REQUESTED BY A PARTICULAR FIRM. THE SELECTED FIRM WILL BE EXPECTED TO PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE SEARCH SERVICES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, CONSULTATION WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STAKEHOLDERS TO DEFINE CANDIDATE PROFILE. AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE, WE DID TALK ABOUT HAVING THE EXECUTIVE FIRM TO MEET WITH YOU, EITHER [02:10:01] AT A MEETING OR, OR ONE-ON-ONE, BUT ALSO TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OF A POSITION DESCRIPTION AND RECRUITMENT STRATEGY. BASED UPON YOUR REQUIREMENTS AND YOUR NEEDS AND YOUR WANTS, UH, BE PROACTIVE WITH IDENTIFYING CANDIDATES IN, IN THE SCREENING PROCESS. UH, INTERVIEW, UH, COORDINATION AND BACKGROUND REFERENCE CHECKS. THIS WILL BE LIKE AN INITIAL INTERVIEW WITH THE CANDIDATES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PRESENTING TO YOU QUALITY, QUALITY, SEASONED, UH, APPLICANTS, AND ALSO TO ASSISTANCE WITH FINAL NEGOTIATIONS, ONBOARDING, AND THE TRANSITION SUPPORT IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED. IT'S A PART OF YOUR PACKET, AND AGAIN, WE CAN, WE CAN ADJUST THE SCOPE AS YOU SO WISH, BUT ALSO TO ADJUST THE TIMELINE AS YOU DESIRE. UH, SO ON JUNE 3RD, WE DID ISSUE THE, UH, THE, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, OR SOMETIMES WE CALL SOLICITATION. UH, THIS WAS BROADCAST TO OVER 800 SUPPLIERS, UH, FIRMS, VENDORS, CONTRACTORS, CONSULTANTS. UH, AS OF TODAY, WHICH IS JUNE 9TH, OF COURSE, WE ARE HERE PRESENTING THE, UH, UPDATES THAT, UH, WE'VE HAD. AND WE HAVE 20 PLAN HOLDERS. SO WHAT A PLAN HOLDER IS, IS JUST SOMEONE WHO WE PROVIDED THE, PROVIDED THE SOLICITATION TO, AND THEY RES, THEY, UH, DOWNLOADED IT LIKE THEY HAVE IT IN THEIR POSSESSION, LIKE THEY ARE INTERESTED. AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A FANTASTIC THING THAT WE HAVE 20 ALREADY, AND IT'S JUST NOVEMBER, JUNE 9TH, I'M SORRY, ON JUNE 20TH. UM, THIS IS THE LAST DAY, UH, THAT ANY OF THE PLAN HOLDERS, IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, THEY NEED TO REACH OUT TO, UH, CITY STAFF, UH, FOR, UH, ASSISTANCE ON JUNE 23RD, WHICH IS OUR NEXT, UH, CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP. WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU PROVIDED ANY ADJUSTMENTS TONIGHT, YOU'LL KNOW THEY'VE BEEN CORRECTED AND INCLUDED IN THE ADDENDUM FOR THE SOLICITATION. AND ALSO TOO, WE WILL ADVISE OF ANY NEW PLAN HOLDERS ON TUESDAY, JULY 2ND. UH, WE WILL PUBLICLY OPEN ANY PROPOSALS THAT WE HAVE. UH, CURRENTLY IT IS A COMPLETELY SEALED PROCESS, SO ALONG THE WAY, I'M NOT ABLE TO SEE ANYONE WHO'S SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL UNTIL THE ACTUAL DAY AND TIME OF THE, SOMETIMES WE CALL IT CLOSING. SOMETIMES WE CALL IT OPENING. AND OF COURSE, THE, UH, CITY STAFF DOES QUITE A FEW THINGS WITH THE REVIEW, DEPENDING ON IF IT'S AN, UH, INDIVIDUAL OR A FIRM. THERE ARE SOME RESPONSIVENESS CHECKS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH. THERE ARE SEVERAL REQUIRED FORMS THAT VENDORS DO HAVE TO SUBMIT. SO WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF MAKING SURE, ONE, THEY'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF OUR CITY OF, SORRY, THE STATE OF FLORIDA, EXCUSE ME. BUT ALSO TOO, THEY'VE, UH, COMPLIED WITH ALL OF THE RE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'VE SET FORTH IN THE SOLICITATION ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. UH, WE'RE HOPING TO, NO, I'M SORRY, JULY 22ND. WE'RE HOPING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE LIST OR SHORT LIST OF THE, UH, PROPOSALS. DEPENDING ON HOW MANY WE, UH, DO GET, WE MAY NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU TO TALK ABOUT, UH, WHAT A, UM, AN EXTRA STEP, UH, MAY MEAN TO THE COMMISSION. IF WE ONLY HAVE A FEW, WE CAN PROVIDE EVERYTHING TO YOU. BUT IF WE WERE TO GET 20 COMPANIES, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU WOULD WANT US TO GO THROUGH A VETTING PROCESS TO ONLY BRING YOU MAYBE HALF OF THAT AMOUNT, OR MAYBE THREE TO FIVE, UH, ON, UH, SEPTEMBER 8TH. UH, WE'RE HOPE, HOPEFULLY, UH, BASED UPON THE SHORT LIST, BASED UPON THE PROCESSES THAT WE ARE GONNA GO THROUGH, WE CAN DO SOME PRESENTATIONS OF THE FINAL FEW, UH, FIRMS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY. AND ALTHOUGH IT SAYS FOR SEPTEMBER 23RD, GOLDEN ROD, THAT'S, THAT'S A SCRS ERROR. UH, 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TIME BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 8TH AND SEPTEMBER, UH, 23RD TO AWARD OF FIRM. NOW, ONCE THE FIRM IS AWARDED, THEY'LL BEGIN ANOTHER PROCESS OF WORKING DIRECTLY WITH YOU ONE-ON-ONE OR AT THE MEETINGS AND WITH THE COMMUNITY TO START THAT NEW PROCESS OF FIGURING OUT WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR CITY MANAGER OR WHAT THE NEEDS AND WHAT THE WANTS ARE FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO AT THIS TIME, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? MAD MAYOR. MAYOR, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. MADAM VICE MAYOR? YES, MADAM MAYOR. MS. BOBBY, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT 20 OR 25, UH, TO YOU, MADAM MAYOR, WE HAVE 20 PLAN HOLDERS. 2020. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. QUESTION THOMAS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. UH, MS. BOBBY, I DO RECALL, UM, LOOKING AT, UH, THE BACKUP PREVIOUSLY, AND I DID SPEAK TO THE ACTON CITY MANAGER THAT IT WAS AGREED UPON THAT WE WOULD HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ICMA TO ALSO WORK ALONG WITH US. UM, AND THAT WAS IN THE INITIAL STAGE. SO IF WE COULD HAVE THAT AS WELL. AND MY COLLEAGUE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH IT, THAT WAS WHAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE BEGINNING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. SO YOU, MADAM [02:15:01] MAYOR, WE CURRENTLY HAVE, HAVE NOT BEEN ASSIGNED A SENIOR ADVISOR, UH, BASED UPON OUR LAST MEETING. HOWEVER, IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO GO BACK AND REQUEST AN ADVISOR TO HELP US ALONG THE WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS AND ALSO COMFORTABLE WITH THE SECONDARY PROCESS ONCE YOU AWARD THE FIRM. MADAM COMMISSIONER HARRISON, THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, BOBBY. UM, I'M LOOKING HERE IN THE BACKUP, AND IT, IT'S SAYING THAT THE ESTIMATED COST IS GONNA BE BETWEEN 35 TO 50,000 THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THAT IS CORRECT. UH, WE DO HAVE PRICING AS A PART OF A CRITERIA. SO WE'LL KNOW UPFRONT WHAT EACH OF THE FIRMS ARE GOING TO PROPOSE IN TERMS OF A PRICING POINT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, THE SECTION FOR SCOPE OF SERVICES, FIVE ITEMS. CONSULTATION WITH US ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STAKEHOLDERS TO DEFINE A CANDIDATE PROFILE. WHAT WILL FALL UNDER THE DEFINITION OF STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS SCENARIO? THANKS, ROBBIE, FOR YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UH, STAKEHOLDERS CAN BE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. UH, THE STAKEHOLDERS CAN BE THE STAFF STAKEHOLDERS COULD BE THE COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES. UH, YOU HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT THAT STAKEHOLDER MEANS TO THE CITY. UH, ONCE WE GET THAT EXECUTIVE FIRM ON BOARD, THEY'RE GONNA BE ASKING YOU WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU? DO YOU CARE ABOUT WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS SAY? DO YOU CARE ABOUT WHAT YOUR, UH, RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS COMMUNITIES SAY? SO WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF GETTING, UH, WELL, THE FIRM WILL BE GETTING TO KNOW YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT STAKEHOLDERS MEAN TO YOU. MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU. UM, I SEE HERE IT SAYS ALSO DEVELOPMENT OF A POSITION DESCRIPTION. IT SAYS, AND RECRUITMENT STRATEGY. I KNOW THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HIRING 'EM FOR THE RECRUITMENT PART, BUT ARE THEY ALSO GONNA WRITE THE DESCRIPTION OF THE POSITION OF THE CITY MANAGER THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, ALONG WITH YOUR ASSISTANCE? CAN WE TAKE THAT OUT TO WHERE WE DO THAT AND NOT THEM, UH, THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, UH, PAYING THEM TO PROVIDE A SERVICE. YEAH. UH, SO THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING THE RECRUITMENT ON YOUR BEHALF. UM, BUT IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO WRITE YOUR OWN SCOPE, I'M PRETTY SURE THEY WILL ACCEPT IT. BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE RECRUITING ON YOUR BEHALF, IS, I'M SORRY, MADAM MAYOR. I JUST WANNA RUN IT BY MY COLLEAGUES. IS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH US CREATING OUR OWN SCOPE FOR OUR CITY MANAGER THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS? WE ARE GONNA BE CREATING OUR OWN. IT'S JUST 'CAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO INTERVIEW EACH OF US, AND WE ARE BOTH GONNA GIVE OUR OPINION AND OUR THOUGHTS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT TOGETHER. SO IT'S, WE TECHNICALLY GOING TO BE CREATING OUR OWN. IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE GONNA, WE ARE GONNA DO THE TALKING AND THEY DO THE WRITING. MADAM MAYOR, MR. HARRISON. I, I AGREE WITH THAT. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT IT SAYS HERE. THAT'S NOT, IT SAYS IN THE BACKUP. LOOK AT IT. IT SAYS IN THE BACKUP, THEIR SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT WE'RE PAYING THEM FOR IS TO DEVELOP A POSITION DESCRIPTION. I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I WANT IT TO BE THAT WAY. THAT'S HOW I'M THINKING. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS ON PAPER. SO IF THEY WENT OUT AND DID IT AND DIDN'T CONSULT WITH US, WE WOULD BE, WE COULDN'T SAY NOTHING. SO I'M JUST SAYING, CAN WE STRIKE THAT OUT? YOU, MADAM MAYOR, IF YOU READ THE FIRST BULLET, UH, IT SAYS, CONSULTATION WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STAKEHOLDERS TO DEFINE CANDIDATE PROFILE. SO YOU'RE GONNA BE MEETING WITH THIS FIRM, WHETHER IT'S ONE PERSON OR TEAM OF FOLKS TO DO EXACTLY, UH, AS YOU IDENTIFIED, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, MAXWELL WILLIAMS IN TERMS OF YOU TELL THE, THE FIRM WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, AND COLLECTIVELY THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK AND SAY EITHER THEY'RE GONNA WORK WITH YOU AS A TEAM OR INDIVIDUALLY. IT'S IF YOU WORK WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY, IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. UM, BUT IF WE COULD MEET AT COMMISSION MEETINGS WHEN WE COULD BOTH GET COMMUNITY INPUT, OTHER STAKEHOLDER INPUT YOUR INPUT AT ONE TIME, WE CAN QUICKLY, UH, CONSOLIDATE EVERYTHING TO GET IT BACK TO YOU FOR YOUR FINAL APPROVAL. THEY WILL NOT BE RECRUITING WITHOUT YOUR, UH, INPUT INTO THE PROCESS. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER THOMAS, I, COLLEAGUES, I DON'T WANNA NEGATE THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE A CHARTER AND TO KEEP THAT IN FOCUS AS WELL. RIGHT. TO NOT CREATE OUR OWN THING WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE CHARTER. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. I THINK WHICHEVER FIRM THAT WE FINALLY COME UP WITH TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO US, IF, IF THEY WERE TO PRODUCE A DESCRIPTION, WE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO ACCEPT IT. SO THAT'S WHERE OUR INPUT COMES IN THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THE, THE INPUT WOULD BE, UH, COMING IN, UH, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. AND NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT WE DO WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE ASSISTANCE OF AN, UH, A SENIOR ADVISOR AND JUST AN ADVISOR. THEY DON'T PROVIDE A LOT OF GUIDANCE, BUT THEY DO ADVISE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS. THEY'RE GONNA BE STARTING FROM DAY ONE, TRYING TO DEFINE WHAT IS IT THAT, THAT YOU WANT. AND AGAIN, IN TERMS OF STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT, UH, STAKEHOLDER CAN MEAN A LOT OF THINGS. AND YOU CAN TELL US WHAT STAKEHOLDER MEANS TO YOU. IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT CITY STAFF SAYS, WE WON'T INCLUDE CITY STAFF AS A STAKEHOLDER. IF YOU TELL US YOU DON'T CARE WHAT OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY SAYS, [02:20:02] BUSINESS COMMUNITY INPUT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS. BUT IF YOU SAY, I WANT ALL OF MY CONSTITUENTS, CONSTITUENTS TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT WE'RE NEEDING, THE CONSTITUENT WILL BE A STAKEHOLDER. SO THAT PROCESS WILL BE COMPLETELY GUIDED BY YOU AND OF COURSE, OUR SENIOR ADVISOR, NOT BY THE, THE FIRM. THE FIRM MAY TELL YOU, UH, WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCE IS IN TERMS OF, UH, HOW, HOW THE APPROACH WILL LOOK LIKE. UM, BUT YOU'RE GONNA BE DEFINING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. MS. BOBBY AS IT RELATES TO THE SENIOR ADVISOR. THE SENIOR ADVISOR IS ASSIGNED TO US BY ICMA OR WHO ASSIGNS US TO SENIOR ADVISOR, UH, THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. UH, HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS, AND THIS IS IN THEORY, UH, THEY HAVE ABOUT 10 FLORIDA REPRESENTATIVES, AND WE REACH OUT TO THE REPRESENTATIVES THAT YOU KNOW, THAT ARE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, UH, TO ASK FOR THEIR GUIDANCE. UH, THERE, THERE WAS ONE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, THAT PREVIOUSLY WORKED FOR THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES ABOUT 20, 25 YEARS AGO. SO I WAS HOPING TO, UH, CONNECT WITH, UH, HIM, UH, AT LISA, REACH OUT TO THREE TO SEE WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN ASSISTING YOU. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT ICM MA WILL ASSIGN US. OKAY. YEAH. THREE MAD MAYOR KNOW THAT THEY'LL NOT BE ASSIGNING, UH, WHAT THEY DO IS PROVIDE A LIST OF EVERYBODY WHO'S A FLORIDA REPRESENTATIVE. OKAY. AND WE HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND REQUEST TO SEE IF THEY'LL BE WILLING TO ASSIST US. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YEAH. MAD MAYOR, MR. THOMAS. THANK YOU. AND SO WE WILL DO THE SAME THING AS WITH THE FIRM, PUT OUT A RPF OR YOU JUST CALLED, WHAT'S THAT? HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT FOR THE ICMA TO, UH, CLARIFY? YOU MEAN WHEN WE GET THE PROPOSALS OF THE FIRMS, OR? NO, MA'AM. I'M STILL DEALING WITH THE ICMA. OKAY. SO, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, UH, I, I BELIEVE THE QUESTION WAS, ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH A VETTING PROCESS? MM-HMM . YES, MA'AM. THAT'S OKAY. UH, SO WE DO NOT HAVE TO, UM, AGAIN, THERE ARE ABOUT 10 REPRESENTATIVES THAT REPRESENT THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND I'VE GIVEN YOU A LIST OF THOSE NAMES ALONG WITH THEIR, UH, BIOS. AND IF YOU HAVE ONE IN MIND THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO REACH OUT TO, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AWAY, WE CAN, UH, BUT INTERNALLY, I WAS GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE ACTING CITY MANAGER TO LOOK AT OUR LIST TO SEE WHO COULD, UM, FIT INTO OUR DEMOGRAPHICS OR FIT INTO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, WHAT WE THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR. BUT IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, MADAM MAYOR, YOU, MADAM MAYOR, NONE OF THEM FIT OUR DEMOGRAPHICS. OKAY. I'M SORRY MADAM MAYOR. NO PROBLEM. I'M SORRY. I, COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT PART? NONE OF THEM FIT OUR DEMOGRAPHICS. IN WHAT WAY? YOU, MADAM MAYOR? UH, NONE OF THEM, UH, ARE, THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE US. THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE ME. THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE US. I GOT YOU. COMMISSIONER NOT, NOT ONE, BUT THEY ARE SENIOR ADVISORS WITH LOTS OF EXPERIENCE IN ASSISTING GOVERNMENTS WITH FINDING A CITY MANAGER. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY. I WAIT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY. THANK YOU. SO, SO JUST, UH, JUST A COUPLE THINGS BEFORE I, UH, YES, MA'AM. TAKE MY SEAT. UH, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THROUGH YOUR MADAM MAYOR THAT THE SCOPE IS, IS, IS ACCEPTED AND THE TIMELINE IS ALSO ACCEPTED. CO READ THE BACK UP. I'M SORRY. WITH THE MAD MAYOR. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? HERE IT IS IN BACKUP. I CAN REVIEW THE TIMELINE. ONCE AGAIN. MADAM MAYOR, IF YOU DO, YOU MADAM MAYOR, SHE COULD READ THE TIMELINE. IT'S ROLLING BACK TO IT, BUT GO AHEAD. YES, SURE. UH, SO TODAY, UH, WELL, NOT TODAY, BUT ON JUNE 3RD LAST WEEK, WE DID ISSUE THE OFFICIAL OR FORMAL SOLICITATION TO 867, UH, SUPPLIERS. UH, TODAY, JUNE 9TH, WE ARE PROVIDING AN UPDATE. AND AS OF TODAY, WE RECEIVED 20 PLAN HOLDERS. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS JUST 20 PEOPLE, OR 20 FIRMS DOWNLOADED OUR DOCUMENTS, UH, ON JUNE 20TH, UH, WHICH IS A FRIDAY. UM, THAT'LL BE THE LAST DAY THAT ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED CAN REACH OUT TO THE CITY TO ASK QUESTIONS OR GET CLARITY ON ANY OF THE, UH, INFORMATION THAT'S IN THE, UH, PACKET ON TUESDAY, JULY 2ND. I'M SORRY, I SKIPPED JUNE. JUNE 23RD. UH, THAT WILL BE ANOTHER WORKSHOP DAY WHEN WE WILL COME TO YOU JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROCESS AND HOW MANY PLAN HOLDERS WE HAVE. UH, ONE OF THE, UM, ITEMS I SAID EARLIER WAS THAT WE HAVE A COMPLETELY SEALED PROCESS. UH, SO I WON'T BE ABLE TO, TO COME TO YOU AND SAY, WE RECEIVED SO MANY PROPOSALS ALREADY. 'CAUSE IT'S A COMPLETELY SEALED PROCESS. AND I WON'T KNOW THE, THE TOTAL ACCOUNT UNTIL THE ACTUAL DATE AND TIME THE BIDS ARE OPENED. OKAY. ON JULY 2ND, UH, THIS IS THE OFFICIAL DAY THAT, UH, SOMETIMES WE SAY RESPONSES OR PROPOSALS ARE GONNA BE DUE IN OUR, UH, E PLATFORM, WHICH IS DEMAND STAR ON JULY 22ND, UH, WE ARE, UH, HOPING TO BRING, UH, TO YOU EITHER, UM, ALL OF THE [02:25:01] PROPOSALS THAT WE RECEIVED WITH A SUMMARY OR A SHORT LIST OF WHAT WE'VE RECEIVED ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. WE'RE HOPING TO DO PRESENTATIONS, UH, UH, KEEP IN MIND THAT, UH, THIS STEP AND THE STEP BEFORE IT, UH, WILL BE GUIDED BY THE NUMBER OF RESPONSES WE DO RECEIVE. MM-HMM . IN TERMS OF THE, UH, FINAL, THE FINAL STEP IN THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS, WE WILL BE HOPING TO, UH, HAVE YOU TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR AWARD AND AWARD ON SEPTEMBER 23RD. MS. BOBBI, ON YOUR TIMELINE, FOR OUR F FOR THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE REVIEW, YOU HAVE DATE AND TIME, TWO BD UH, YOU, MADAM MAYOR, UH, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, UH, PROPOSALS WE MAY RECEIVE. UM, SO THAT'S GONNA GUIDE, LIKE A, A PROCESS. IF WE RECEIVE 20 PROPOSALS, LIKE WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU AREN'T GONNA WANNA LOOK AT EVERY, UM, ALL 20 PROPOSALS. YOU WOULD PROBABLY WANT A SHORT LIST OF WHO ARE THE MOST QUALIFIED FIRMS WITH MAYBE A SHORT SUMMARY OF WHO THOSE FIRMS ARE. SO WE'RE HOPING TO DO THAT PROCESS IF WE RECEIVE. SO, YOU KNOW, SO MANY, BUT IF WE ONLY RECEIVE A FEW, UH, THE EVALUATION OR SELECTION PROCESS, WE'LL BE YOU ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. COLLEAGUES, ARE WE IN CONSENSUS OF MOVING FORWARD? MOVING FORWARD? YES, I'M FINE. MADAM COMMISSIONER? YES. YES. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. BARLEY. THANK YOU. AND JUST, JUST ONE LAST THING, MA'AM. I'M SORRY. MATTHEW. YOU, MADAM MAYOR, KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A FORMAL SOLICITATION AND IT IS POSTED ON DEMAND STAR.COM. THEREFORE, WE ARE, UH, IN A CONE OF SILENCE. UH, AT THIS TIME, A LOT OF FIRMS, SUPPLIERS, VENDORS, CONSULTANTS, I LOVE TO REACH OUT TO ELECTED OFFICIALS TO SAY, HEY, WHAT YOU LOOKING FOR, WHAT YOU NEED? PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO THE, EITHER THE ACTING CITY MANAGER OR MYSELF. UH, THIS IS A VERY, UH, PROTECTED PROCESS THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND WE DON'T WANT TO, UH, ENGAGE. I PROPERLY, MS. BOBBY, I'M SURE WE KNOW THE CONE OF SILENCE IS, BUT WOULD YOU, UM, PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT A CODE OF SILENCE, CONE OF SILENCE IS FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING. THE, THE MADAM MAYOR, THE CONE OF SILENCE IS A PERIOD OF TIME IN WHICH, UH, THE, UH, ONLY REPRESENTATIVES THAT REPRESENT THE CITY, UH, CAN, UH, PROVIDE INFORMATION TO, UH, PROPOSALS, SUPPLIERS, VENDORS, UH, CONSULTANTS. AND THIS IS DONE SO THAT WE PROVIDE, UH, STANDARD INFORMATION TO EVERYONE AT THE SAME TIME. UH, SO WHEN WE GET QUESTIONS FROM, UH, FIRMS, VENDORS, SUPPLIERS, UH, WE PROVIDE A RESPONSE VIA AN ADDENDUM THAT IS PUBLISHED ON OUR E PLATFORM, UH, BECAUSE, UH, THE STATE OF FLORIDA WILL NOT ALLOW US TO PROVIDE IMPARTIAL, UH, FIRST TO BE IMPARTIAL IN OUR DELIVERY IN TERMS OF EVALUATING OR UNFAIR WHEN WE ARE HAVING SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS AND GIVING SOMEONE ELSE A FAIR UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COLLEGE. THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY MADMAN. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. [F.  DISCUSSION REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING (MOU) FOR THE 2022 EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT (“JAG”) PROGRAM FROM THE BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE (BSO) IN THE AMOUNT OF TWENTY-THREE THOUSAND, SEVEN HUNDRED SEVENTY THREE AND 13/100 ($23,773.13) DOLLARS] ITEM NUMBER FIVE F DISCUSSION REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR THE 2022 JAG GRANT PROGRAM FROM THE BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE AMOUNT OF $23,773 AND 13 CENTS. AND WE HAVE BOBBY WILLIAMS THAT WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM THROUGH YOU. MADAM MAYOR, MADAM MAYOR, MS. WILLIAMS, I THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN. UH, FOR THE RECORD, BOBBY WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES, AND, UH, THIS DISCUSSION ITEM IS TO APPROVE THE CITY TO MOVE AHEAD WITH, UH, THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR THE, UH, CITY'S AWARD OF THE JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT. SOMETIMES WE REFER TO IT AS JAG, AND THIS IS A JAG 23, UH, QUITE, UH, A FEW YEARS AGO, THE CITY DID APPROVE THE ACTUAL GRANT, BUT IT HAS TAKEN SOME TIME FOR, UH, BSO, WHO'S OUR, UH, GRANT ADMINISTRATOR TO ACTUALLY PUT ALL THE DOCUMENTS AND ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER. UH, SO WE'RE FINALLY AT THAT POINT, UH, WHERE WE ARE, UH, HAVING THE, THE MOU EXECUTED. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANT TO CLARIFY IS THAT THE GROSS AMOUNT OF THE GRANT IS, EXCUSE ME, $25,568. BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A SHARED GRANT, THERE IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGE, UH, THE BSL WHO'S OUR GRANT ADMINISTRATOR, DOES IMPOSE ON THE CITY, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 7%. SO THE NET GRANT THAT WE ARE GONNA BE RECEIVING IS $23,773. AND I DO HAVE MY BIG GUNS BACK HERE, CAPTAIN, UH, CAPTAIN PHILLIPS, WHO CAN, UH, PROVIDE MORE, UH, UH, DETAIL ON EXACTLY THE, THE POLICE OPERATIONS THAT THIS GRANT WILL COVER. UM, BUT AT THIS TIME, WE'RE HOPING TO GET YOUR APPROVAL, UH, ON MOVING [02:30:01] AHEAD WITH, UH, SUBMITTING THIS AS A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE MOU. UM, COULD YOU GET CAPTAIN PHILLIPS TODAY? OH, YEAH. UH, SURE. UM, AS CAPTAIN PHILLIPS, UH, COMES UP TO THE DAAS, UH, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE OPERATIONS THAT WE DO HAVE LISTED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE, UH, NET AMOUNT OF $23,773 IS GOING TO PROVIDE FOR THE CITY. IT'S MOSTLY OVERTIME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH CRIME REDUCTION OPERATIONS AND, UH, OTHER TYPES OF SURVEILLANCE OPERATIONS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL DEFER TO CAPTAIN PHILLIPS PROTOCOL ALREADY ESTABLISHED. UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL USE TO JUST HANDLE SOME OF THE, UM, THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES REGARDING, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY. SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE GOING ON WITHIN THE CITY. WE HAVE, WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT SPEEDING THIS, THIS WILL HELP US ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. AND THERE ARE SOME MATTERS WITH, UM, JUVENILES CAUSING ISSUES IN SOME OF THE, UM, CITY PARKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO WE'LL USE IT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE MATTERS. SO, UM, WE GET, WE GOT SEVERAL GRANTS IN THE PROCESS, AND THEY'RE ALL BEING USED FOR DIFFERENT SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ONE OF THE SPECIFIC ONES WITH THIS PARTICULAR ONE, HOWEVER, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE USE THE GRANTS, THE JAG GRANTS FOR WHEN, UM, THEY'RE APPROVED BY YOU ALL. STANDBY. COMFORTABLE WITH THE ADAM VICE MAYORS ON YOU? YES. OH, YOU, YOU'RE NOW ACTING CHAIR. YES, I AM. MM-HMM . QUESTION FOR YOU. UM, THERE ARE NO QUESTION MADAM VICE, NO QUESTION. OKAY. CAPTAIN PHILLIPS, YOU ARE OKAY WITH THE ANSWER? THANK YOU. OKAY, MADAM [G.  DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PROCUREMENT AND INSTALLATION OF THE PLAYGROUND SYSTEM AT OTIS GRAY NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE THOUSAND, EIGHT HUNDRED AND FOUR DOLLARS ($249,804)] CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, MADAM VICE MAYOR. ITEM NUMBER FIVE SIX DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PROCUREMENT AND INSTALLATION OF THE PLAYGROUND SYSTEM AT OTIS GRAIN NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $249,804. AND MS. UH, I BELIEVE, WILL YOU BE PRESENTING THIS, BOBBY OR RON? THIS BRUNI? RON, IF YOU CAN COME UP AND LEAVE THIS ITEM, PLEASE. UH, ONCE AGAIN, BOBBY WILLIAMS FOR THE RECORD, UH, PROTOCOL HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. UH, SO THE, UH, CITY WILL BE HOPEFULLY DISCUSSING THIS ITEM AND, UH, WITH YOUR CONSENSUS MOVING AHEAD WITH A, UH, RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE AND INSTALL OF A PLAYGROUND SYSTEM AT OUR OTIS GRAY NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, UM, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $249,804. UH, SO WE ARE GONNA BE ASKING FOR AN EXCEPTION TO POLICY TO UTILIZE THE PROCUREMENT CODE SECTION 8 2 58 D, WHICH ALLOWS COOPERATIVE PURCHASING. MY APOLOGIES. FAIR ENOUGH. UH, SO AS A PART OF YOUR PACKET, UM, YOU DO HAVE A, UM, KIND OF A RENDERING, A BLACK AND WHITE RENDERING OF, UH, SOME OF THE FEATURES THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE RECEIVING, UM, FROM THE COMPANY, WHICH IS, UH, GAME TIME. UH, AND, UH, THE ACTUAL ESTIMATE IS $227,000. HOWEVER, THIS IS A REALLY OLD PARK. UM, IN SOME OF OUR, UM, UH, CONVERSATIONS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THERE WERE SO MANY UNSAFE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAD TO ACTUALLY DEMOLISH THE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS THERE BACK IN 2024. UM, THEREFORE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GROUND LOOKS LIKE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE UNDERGROUND LOOKS LIKE, SO WE'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A CONTINGENCY, UM, SO THAT IF, UH, ANY CONDITIONS PRESENT THEMSELVES THAT WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT, WE'LL, WE'LL ALREADY HAVE THE, UH, BUDGET AUTHORIZED TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE ITEMS. UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO HAVE MR. DON, UH, MR. DES BROWNS TO, UH, PROVIDE ANY MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE ACTUAL PLAYGROUND SYSTEM ITSELF. MADAM, MR. DE BRUS. UH, GOOD EVENING, MADAM VICE MAYOR. CAN YOU HEAR, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, MADAM MANAGER, UH, MR. C NAME, AND I'M COLLECTING THE AUDIENCE. UH, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS RON DES BRUS, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. UM, MY VICE, LIKE MRS. WILLIAM SAID, UH, THE OLD PLAYGROUND WAS DEMOLISHED BACK IN MARCH LAST YEAR, AND CURRENTLY IT'S AN EMPTY SPACE AND, UH, THERE'S NO OTHER PLACES FOR THE KIDS TO, TO PLAY. AND THE, THE, THE PLAYGROUND THAT WE PROPOSE TO REPLACE IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME SIZE. UH, WE TRY TO KEEP IT WITH THE SAME FOOTPRINT BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'LL HAVE TO REMOVE SOME TREES, MAKE IT BIGGER, AND ALSO THE COST, UH, AS WELL. SO IT'S, UH, PRETTY MUCH GONNA HAVE THE SAME FEATURE AND, BUT NEW FEATURE FROM COMPARED TO WHAT WE DEMOLISHED. AND THOSE WERE COORDINATED WITH PARKS, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE APPROPRIATE FOR, UH, FOR ALL THIS GREAT WORK. UM, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MADAM MAYOR, MR. THOMAS. THANK YOU, MADAM [02:35:01] MAYOR. MR. RON. I, I KNOW IT'S GONNA LOOK BEAUTIFUL ONCE IT'S PLACED IN, BUT MY BIG CONCERN IS THAT, AND I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT THIS BEFORE, IS THE AREA, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE AESTHETICS OFF THE PARK. AND SO WE PUT IN BRAND NEW EQUIPMENT HERE, BUT HEADED TOWARDS 26TH AND 49TH, THAT AREA RIGHT THERE. WHAT IS BEING DONE IN ORDER TO ENHANCE THE NEW STUFF WE'RE PUTTING IN? DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHERE I'M SPEAKING? UH, TO MAYOR SUGGEST, UH, THERE'S A PORTION OF THAT WESTERN PORTION OF THE PARK. IT'S LIKE A NATURAL PRESERVE, RIGHT? AND, BUT SOME OF THOSE LARGE TREE, WERE KIND OF HANGING OVER THE FENCE FACING 49. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DRIVE LATELY. WE CLEAN THAT, UH, THAT WHOLE SECTION. AND ALSO WE ARE WORKING TO GET A CONTRACTOR, UH, TO KEEP MAINTAINING THOSE, THOSE INVASIVE SPECIES, NOT JUST AT ALL THIS GRAY, BUT ALSO AT CYPRESS PRESERVE, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM THERE. BUT IT'S A NATURE PRESERVE. UH, WE ARE LIMITED IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF HOW MANY TREES WE CAN TAKE OUT, BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP THOSE INVASIVE SPECIES UNDER CONTROL, WHICH WE ARE TRYING TO GET A CONTRACTOR TO DO SO. AND, UH, ANNUALLY TO COMPLEMENT WHAT STAFF IS DOING IN THE HOUSE. UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. RON. WOULDN'T IT BE, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A, A WALK WITHIN THE AREA THAT WE CAN, THAT COULDN'T, UM, EXTEND ROUND TO THAT AREA, THAT PRESERVE AREA. COULD THAT BE EXTENDED? UH, TO MY MAYOR, UH, ACTUALLY WE HAVE A GRANT, UH, WE HAVE A FURTHER GRANT THAT WE ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. IT'S, UH, $400,000 FROM THE FED UP WITH A CO, UM, BALANCE OF 200,000 FROM THE CITY, WHICH IS 600,000 TO, WE REPLACE THE CURRENT WALKWAY. WE ARE NOT ONLY GONNA REPLACE, IT'S GONNA MAKE IT WIDER NINE FEET WIDE. AND I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA EXTEND FURTHER WEST, UH, FROM THE PARK. THANK YOU, THOMAS. THANK YOU. SO WITH THE NEW EQUIPMENT GOING IN IT, THAT AREA WILL NOT DISTRACT FROM THE BEAUTY THAT'S BEING PUT IN WITH THE EQUIPMENT. YOU'VE CLEANED IT UP SOMEWHERE, TWO MILLIMETERS? NO. OKAY. AND ALSO, EVEN CURRENTLY, WE HAVE SOME EXISTING BENCHES THAT ARE NOT REALLY SLIGHTLY. WE PLAN ON REMOVING THOSE OLD BENCHES AS WELL. NOW THERE'LL BE NEW EQUIPMENT, UH, EXERCISE, UM, UH, UM, STATION ALONG THE PATH. UM, BECAUSE THAT, THAT, THAT PARK IS REALLY, UH, USED BY THE COMMUNITY, WE, WE CAN SEE PEOPLE WALKING ALL, ALL DAY, UH, TO THAT PARK. UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, UH, THANK YOU, RON. MY QUESTION IS THE, THE, THE MAKEUP OF THE PARK, IS THAT SAND OR IS THAT GONNA BE RUG? THE, THE, THE ACTUAL GROUND OF THE, OF THE PLAYGROUND CURRENTLY? SAND, CURRENTLY SAND, WOMEN. SAND, YEAH. MADAM MAYOR, I DISAGREE WITH THE SAND PART. I THINK WE SHOULD DO SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD AT TRAILHEAD, WHERE THERE'S SOME TYPE OF, UH, A RUG OR, UM, PLATFORM. AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S A TREND WITH PARKS. A LOT OF PARKS ARE NO LONGER DOING SAND, BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE A BIG LITTER BOX FOR CATS AND STUFF TO COME IN AND USE. SO I'M A, I'M REALLY AGAINST THE SAND PART. AND I'M HOPING, UM, IF IT'S NOT TOO MUCH OF A TROUBLE, I'M REALLY HOPING WE CAN LOOK AT PUTTING SOME TYPE OF A, A, A, A TARP OR SOME TYPE OF A RUG THING SIMILAR TO TRAILHEAD PARK. 'CAUSE THE, THE, THE SAND IS JUST, I, I WALK INTO PLACES AND PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN GRANT MONEY JUST TO GET RID OF THE SAND ON CERTAIN PARKS BECAUSE OF THE, THE CAT ISSUE. AND IT'S NOT REALLY THAT SANITARY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER INFORMATION THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THAT, BUT FROM MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD, UH, TO MY MAYOR, IF THIS IS THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT. AND ALSO THERE'S A COST, THERE'S GONNA BE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, THE CHANGING THE, THE, THE SURFACE. BUT DEFINITELY IF IT'S, IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT, UM, POSSIBILITY. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, IS SAND MORE COST EFFECTIVE? IS THAT USUALLY HOW IT WORKS? UH, TO MAD MAYOR, WE SAND IS THERE ALREADY, SO THERE'S NO COST. OH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. GOT YOU. SORRY. IF YOU HAVE TO CHANGE IT FROM SAND TO SOMETHING ELSE, TO SOMETHING ELSE, THAT WOULD BE A COST. YEAH, I, UH, TO YOU MADAM MAYOR, I, UM, I JUST WANTED MY COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER THAT, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING AWAY FROM SAND, UM, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE SANITARY ISSUES. AND I KNOW PARENTS THAT SAY, I DON'T BRING MY CHILD TO THESE PLAYGROUNDS BECAUSE THEY'RE SAND AND THEY'RE GONNA RUN UP AND DOWN IN THE SAND AND COME HOME WITH, YOU KNOW, THINGS. SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. ANY THOUGHTS THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOUR COLLEAGUES. DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON REPLACING, DIRECTING OR ASKING MR. RON TO RESEARCH REPLACING SAND WITH OUTDOOR, I WANNA SAY CARPET, BUT THAT'S NOT THE NAME OF IT. MAKE SURE THAT'S [02:40:01] NOT HOT, BUT IF SOMEONE BIT SURFACE, THAT'S THE WORD. ANY COMMENTS? NO, I'M ALL THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. YEAH. WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT THE COST IS. COST, YEAH, COST. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MADAM. [H.  DISCUSSION REGARDING ELEVATOR MODIFICATIONS IN CERTAIN CITY BUILDINGS] MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. ITEM FIVE H DISCUSSION REGARDING ELEVATOR MODIFICATIONS IN CERTAIN CITY BUILDINGS. AND MR. RONDA BRUNI WILL BE LEADING THIS ITEM THROUGH YOU. MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU. MR. UH, THANK YOU MADAM MANAGER PROTOCOL ESTABLISHED, UH, MADAM MAYOR, UH, THE CITY OWNS AND OPERATE, UH, TWO ELEVATOR SYSTEMS, UM, WITH TWO FACILITIES. ONE OF THEM IS AT CITY HALL, AND IT WAS, IT WAS BUILT IN 1977. UH, THE OTHER ELEVATOR IS AT THE RESOURCE CENTER ACROSS, UH, THE STREET FROM CITY HALL. AND THAT ONE WAS BUILT IN 1991. SO, UH, THE STATE OF FLORIDA CURRENTLY UPGRADED THE, UH, SAFETY REQUIREMENT FOR ELEVATORS FOR ANYTHING THAT WAS BUILT BEFORE 2000. UH, THEY REQUIRE SOME NEW SAFETY MEASURE TO BE IMPLEMENTED THROUGHOUT THOSE ELEVATORS. AND WE HAVE UNTIL AUGUST 1ST THIS YEAR TO COMPLY. IF WE DON'T, WE PRETTY MUCH WILL NOT BE ABLE TO OBTAIN OUR CERTIFICATE OF OPERATION, WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR ANY ELEVATOR, UH, THROUGHOUT THE STATE. UH, THERE ARE SOME FUNDS BUDGETED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR IN THE AMOUNT OF $300,000 TO DO SUCH, UH, UPGRADE. BUT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET CONTRACTORS TO COME OUT AND GIVE US A PRICE. AND IT WAS A HARD, UH, THING TO GET THEM BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS THEY ARE HESITATING TO PROVIDE A PRICE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SURE ONCE THEY OPEN UP, UH, BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THOSE ELEVATORS, THEY'RE NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA FIND. SO EVERY PRICE WE'VE BEEN GETTING SO FAR, KIND OF OPEN ENDED, UH, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THIS PRICE, BUT WHEN WE OPEN IT UP, THERE WILL BE MORE. SO WE HAVE FIVE PROPOSAL. THE LOWEST ONE IS, UH, THE NUMBER OF, UH, $296,000. BUT THAT ONE IS OPEN ENDED BECAUSE, UH, NO COST FOR ENGINEERING PLANS. UH, THAT'S FOR TWO, FOR FOR BOTH. THAT'S FOR TWO ELEVATORS? YES. OKAY. FOR BOTH COMMISSIONER HARRISON. SORRY. SORRY MADAM MAYOR. THAT WAS A CRAZY PART. SO THAT ONE IS OPEN-ENDED, UH, BECAUSE NO ENGINEERING PLANS, MEANING THE CITY WOULD'VE TO PAY SEPARATELY FOR, TO HIRE A MECHANICAL ENGINEER TO PROVIDE THE REQUIRED DRAWING AND GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND ALL THAT. SO WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH THAT'S GONNA COST. SO YES, THAT'S THE LOWEST COST, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT MIGHT END UP BEING DOUBLE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW. 'CAUSE ONCE THEY OPEN IT UP, THERE'S SO MANY GRAY AREAS, THEY'RE NOT REALLY ABLE TO, TO COMMIT TO A SPECIFIC PRICE. UH, THE HIGHEST PRICE WAS IN THE AMOUNT, UH, OF $404,000. AGAIN, THAT ONE IS ALL INCLUSIVE, MEANING THE CONTRACTOR IS WILLING TO TAKE EVERYTHING, UH, TO ALL EVERY UNCERTAINTIES UNDER THAT PRICE. SO, UH, DELAWARE ELEVATOR IS THE ONE THAT CURRENTLY MAINTAIN THE TWO, ACTUALLY FOUR ELEVATORS. EVEN THE ONE AT ECC, THEY KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH, UH, EVERYTHING THAT THAT GOES ON. SO THEY PROVIDED A PRICE IN THE AMOUNT OF 400, IN 32,000. UM, EVERYTHING INCLUDED PERMITTING, UH, EVEN UH, UH, HOOKUP FOR HTS GENERATOR THAT WE DON'T HAVE, UH, STORAGE. THEY ALL TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THAT UNDER THAT PRICE. SO BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE SYSTEM, THEY, THEY SEE IT, THEY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, WE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT PRICING GOING FORWARD BECAUSE KNOW, IT'S FIXED. UH, IT'S NOT OPEN-ENDED EVEN THOUGH IT'S ABOVE THE, THE BUDGETED PRICE THAT WE, OR THE BUDGETED ITEM THAT WE HAVE, BUT WE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE GOING WITH THAT PRICE. SO WITH THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION, WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AWARDING THE CONTRACT TO DELAWARE ELEVATORS, UH, TO PROVIDE THE UPGRADE. BUT I HAVE TO, UH, UH, UH, BRING UP THE FACT THAT IF WE DO NOT DO ANYTHING BEFORE, AFTER AUGUST 1ST, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF GETTING FINE. $50 PER DAY PER ELEVATOR UNTIL WE FIX IT. UH, SO IT'S, AND ALSO WE HAVE OUR A DA COMPLIANCE ISSUE BECAUSE, UH, TO ACCESS, UH, THE COMMISSION CHAMBER, THE ELEVATOR IS THE ONLY ONE THAT, UH, KEEP US IN COMPLIANCE, UH, WITH A DA REQUIREMENT. IF WE DON'T HAVE AN ELEVATOR, WE WILL NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, [02:45:01] A DA, WHICH IS AMERICAN WITH DISABILITY ACT. MR. RUN THE ELEVATOR AT THE ECC BUILDING. WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ONE? UH, TWO FOR MAINTENANCE? MM-HMM . UH, THAT'S US, THE CITY. BUT YOU NEVER MENTIONED IT IN THE, YOU SAID THERE, YOU SAID TWO. THIS ONE. OH, THE, OH, I'M SORRY. UM, TWO . I'M SORRY. THE ELEVATOR ARE THE, UM, AT E CCC, ONE OF THE EC MM-HMM . UH, THE COUNTY OWNS IT. OH, THE COUNTY OWNS, ITS, IT, OKAY. WE PAY ABOUT $159 PER MONTH FOR MAINTENANCE FOR $159,000. NO, 1 59. ONE $59? YES. PER MONTH. OKAY. FOR MAINTENANCE, SAME THING FOR THE DORM WAITER, WHICH IS AT THE SAME, UH, FACILITY. MM-HMM . UH, SO IN TOTAL, WE PAY FOR FOUR, UH, SYSTEM, THE TWO AT THE ECC, THE ELEVATOR AND THE DORM. WAIT MM-HMM . AND, UH, THE TWO ELEVATORS AT CITY HALL AND THE RESOURCE CENTER. I APOLOGIZE, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMISSIONER THOMAS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MR. RON, SINCE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS COMPANY, THAT'S THE BEST THEY CAN DO IN TERMS OF, UM, INCLUSIVE, HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN MAINTAINING SINCE THEY KNOW ABOUT THE SYSTEM AS WELL AS THEY'RE, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE THE HIGHEST, THEY'RE ABLE PROVIDE, UH, FOR 432,000. RIGHT. AND YOU SAID WE HAVE 300,000 BUDGETED TOWARDS THAT. SO THAT WOULD MEAN 132,000 BALANCE BY MAYOR? YES. OKAY. SO THERE IS NOTHING MORE THEY CAN DO. I MEAN, WE'RE, THEY'VE, HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN WORKING THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, WORKING ON THE SYSTEM? UH, THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR? I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE THE EXACT NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT IT'S MORE THAN IT'S BEEN. THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON, ON THE SYSTEM FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW, NOT JUST ONE YEAR. S SO THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. SO THE RELATIONSHIP, I, I UNDERSTAND THINGS, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN SERVICING US. IS THERE NO WAY THEY CAN TAKE OFF SOME MORE MONEY OFF OF IT? THEIR BID IS STANDARD. THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE MAX, UH, . SO EVEN THAT PRICE, THERE ARE STILL SOME UNCERTAINTIES. UH, WHEN THEY EXPOSE THE SYSTEM, UH, I GUESS THIS IS THE BEST THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE WITH THE ALL THE RISKS, UNKNOWN, UNFORESEEN SITUATIONS. UH, SO THEY ARE TAKING SOME RISKS AS WELL BY PROVIDING THE PRICE. AND THOMAS, AND THAT'S INCLUSIVE. ALL INCLUSIVE. MADAM MAYOR. MAKE SURE, HARRISON, THANK YOU. UM, RON, ONCE THEY DO THESE UPGRADES, HOW LONG ARE THE UPGRADES GOING TO TAKE? THE ACTUAL UPGRADE ITSELF, HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE TO, UM, TO REMIND ME, UH, TO COM TO COMPLETE THE UPGRADE? YES. FROM BEGINNING TO END. HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE? UH, UH, TO REMIND ME OF SIX WEEKS. SIX WEEKS. SIX WEEKS FOR, YES. OKAY. SO WITH THE TIMING OF, UM, THE AUGUST BREAK, UH, WE FEEL LIKE IF WE GET APPROVAL FROM THE SEAL COMMISSION, THAT WOULD BE THE BEST TIME TO, YOU SAID THE DEADLINE IS, SORRY, YOU SAID THE DEADLINE WAS WHEN? AUGUST 1ST? YES. AND, AND IT TAKES SIX WEEKS TO DO. AND THIS IS ON WORKSHOP. WHY, WHY ARE WE WAITING TILL NOW TO DO IT? IT SEEMS KIND OF RUSHED. UH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T GET THAT QUESTION TOO. MAYOR THROUGH YOU, MS. HARRISON, IF IT TAKES SIX WEEKS TO DO THE OPERATION AND AUGUST 1ST IS ABOUT SIX WEEKS AWAY, ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S LESS. WHY ARE WE WAITING TILL NOW BEFORE WE DO THIS? AND YOU'RE TELLING US ABOUT THE POTENTIAL DANGERS AND WE, I FEEL RUSHED. WHY ARE WE WAITING TILL NOW TO DO THIS, UH, TO MY MAYOR? SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL, WE, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME TRYING TO GET THE CONTRACTOR ON BOARD NOW THAT WE HAVE THE PRICING, BUT WE FEEL LIKE WITH THE AUGUST BREAK, THE CHAMBER WILL NOT BE IN USE AND THAT WILL BE THE PERFECT TIME TO, UM, TO DO THE, UH, UPGRADE. BUT IF WE ARE ON THE CONSTRUCTION, SO THE, UH, ELEVATOR PRETTY MUCH ARE OUT OF SERVICE AND, UH, WE WILL NOT BE PENALIZED BECAUSE WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER UPGRADE. UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MADAM MAYOR, THIS NEW, UH, STANDARD ABOUT AUGUST 1ST, WHEN WAS THAT IMPLEMENTED? I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT EARLIER. AT WHAT POINT DID THEY IMPLEMENT THAT? I BELIEVE IT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2020, BUT THEY KEEP PUSHING THE DEADLINE TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENT. BUT IT WAS LAST YEAR WAS JANUARY 1ST, 2024. BUT CURRENTLY IT'S AUGUST 1ST AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA GET ANOTHER EXTENSION. MADAM MAYOR. YEAH, YOU MAY NOT GET IT. BUT LEMME TELL YOU WHAT I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH. WE, WE ARE BEING PUSHED ON A SHORT TIMELINE TO SPEND SO MUCH MONEY AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK INTO THE ISSUE. SO WHENEVER PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT ACCUSING ANYBODY OF ANYTHING, BUT PEOPLE USUALLY MESS WITH THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE AND YOUR TIMELINE TO DO THINGS. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE BEING ON A SHORT TIMELINE WITH A LACK OF INFORMATION AND WE'RE BEING PRESSURED TO DO THIS [02:50:01] OR ELSE YOU SAYING THIS MIGHT HAPPEN OR THAT MIGHT HAPPEN. SO ALL OF THESE CONCERNS THAT DON'T MEAN MUCH TO ME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WHY ARE WE JUST FINDING THIS OUT RIGHT NOW? IF IT'S SO IMPORTANT? IT TAKES SIX WEEKS TO DO. I THINK WE COULD HAVE FIND SIX WEEKS SINCE 2020 TO DO THIS, UH, TO REMEMBER MAYOR, UH, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WAS BUDGETED, SO WE KNOW THAT WAS COMING, BUT IT'S NEEDED COMMISSIONER HARRISON, SORRY THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, BUT IT'S NEEDED. IF IT'S SO IMPORTANT AND WE CAN GET IN SO MUCH TROUBLE AND SO MANY THINGS CAN HAPPEN. YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN, CAME TO US AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. GIVE US THE MONEY TO DO IT. WHY WAIT UNTIL THIS DEADLINE WHERE WE ONLY HAVE SIX WEEKS LEFT? WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE NOW WE HAVE TO DO IT. DOES THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES SENSE. UH, DO YOU MADAM MAYOR? YES. I, I, I UNDERSTAND. I AGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER, BUT WE CANNOT COME TO YOU WITHOUT AN ACTUAL PROPOSAL. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON, PLEASE . BUT RON, IF WE SAY, IF WE HARRISON, SORRY, MR. RON WAS NOT FINISHED. SORRY, MR. RON, GO AHEAD. UH, SORRY. YES, GO AHEAD. I GUESS THE POINT IS, I CANNOT COME TO YOU WITHOUT AN ACTUAL PROPOSAL FROM A CONTRACTOR. AND THERE ARE SOME ISSUES. WE HAVE CONTRACTOR COMING OUT LOOKING AT THE EVIDENCE, THEN THEY TELL US, YOU KNOW WHAT, NO, WE ARE NOT INTERESTED. AND NOT ONE, NOT TWO MULTIPLE TIMES. REMEMBER, UM, THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM A CONCRETE CONTRACTOR WHERE IF YOU WANNA BUILD A SIDEWALK, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF CONTRACTOR WE CAN SELECT THAT CAN DO CONCRETE. THIS IS A SPECIALIZED SERVICE. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, UM, CONTRACTOR THAT, THAT ARE QUALIFIED TO DO THAT KIND OF JOB. MADAM MAYOR COMM HARRISON, THANK YOU. I RESPECT, YOU KNOW, WAY MORE ABOUT THIS THAN ME. SO I'M, I'M LEARNING FROM YOU, RIGHT? BUT THERE'S CERTAIN COMMON SENSE, CONSTANT THINGS THAT IN ANY SITUATION YOU'RE IN, I KNOW WILL NOT MAKE SENSE. WHAT IF WE, MY QUESTION TO YOUR HONOR, WHAT IF WE ALL SAID NO, WE ARE NOT GONNA FUND IT. THEN WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THE CITY? MAYOR, WE WILL NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE. SO WE, WE WILL HAVE TO SHUT DOWN THE ELEVATORS. MADAM MAYOR, MS. HARRISON. SO IF YOU SAY WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT BECAUSE OF CITY OPERATIONS, EITHER WAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SHUT DOWN THE ELEVATORS IF WE DON'T DO IT. SO MY, MY ISSUE IS THAT IF YOU'RE COMING TO US ABOUT ASKING FOR HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, I HAVEN'T HEARD A GOOD ENOUGH REASON WHY YOU'RE WAITING TILL NOW. WE FEEL PRESSURED. YOU CAME TO US WITH FIVE CONTRACTORS. THEY KNOW WE ON THE TIMELINE TOO. SO MY COLLEAGUES ARE ASKING FOR A DISCOUNT. I DOUBT IT. 'CAUSE THEY KNOW WE GOT OUR HANDS TIED. SO WHY ARE WE DOING BUSINESS LIKE THIS? WHY IS THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES DOING BUSINESS LIKE THIS? EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ELEVATOR NOW, MADAM MAYOR, EVEN IF WE VOTE ON IT, WE NEED THIS TO STOP. THIS SHOULD STOP. THIS SHOULD STOP. IT DOESN'T JUST MAKE SENSE TO ME. I DON'T HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN THIS, BUT IT SHOULD STOP. WE HAVE SIX WEEKS LEFT BEFORE THE DEADLINE. AND, UH, YOU, HOW ARE WE GONNA, ANY BUSINESSMAN SAYING WE ASKING FOR A DISCOUNT, YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO IT. WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU A DISCOUNT. THAT'S NOT GOOD BUSINESS. AND WE SENDING YOU GUYS ON BEHALF OF US TO NEGOTIATE. SO I'M CRITIQUING THE NEGOTIATION SKILLS. EITHER THAT OR THE STAFF IS PLAYING US AS COMMISSIONERS. ONE OF THE TWO. EITHER YOU GUYS AREN'T DOING YOUR JOB RIGHT OR YOU GUYS ARE SO SMART THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE BEING PLAYED. ONE OF THE TWO, MS. BARBIE, IF I MAY, UH, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, ANNUALLY WE GO THROUGH THE CIP PROCESS. AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE, UH, PROJECTS THAT WAS PRIORITIZED AND FUNDED THROUGH THE CIP PROCESS. REMEMBER, WE'RE A VERY SMALL CITY AND WE HAVE VERY LIMITED RESOURCES. AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WE HAVE THAT OUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH TRYING TO LOCATE A FIRM OR A CONTRACTOR TO MODERNIZE OUR ELEVATORS. RON IS NOT COMING UP HERE WAITING UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE. WE HAVE WORKED TIRELESS WITH TRYING TO GET A FIRM IN HERE THAT IS A A, AN ELEVATOR THAT'S ALMOST OVER 20, 25 YEARS OLD. AND HE IS CORRECT WITH, WITH, WHENEVER A FIRM COMES OUT HERE, THEY ARE AFRAID TO GIVE US A QUOTE. 'CAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN THEY PULL THE CAB OUT. SOME OTHER CONTRACTORS ARE WILLING TO, WELL THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR IS WILLING TO DO US A, A TURNKEY BECAUSE HE DOES ALREADY PROVIDE THE MAINTENANCE FOR THE ELEVATORS. THE OTHER COMPANIES JUST AREN'T SURE. THEY DON'T WANNA PROVIDE THAT MECHANICAL OR ELECTRICAL WORK OR EVEN THE PERMITTING COSTS. BUT I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK MADAM MAYOR, THAT WE ARE JUST SITTING AROUND DOING NOTHING. WE ARE LIMITED WITH OUR PERSONNEL RESOURCES AND ALSO SOME OF THE PLATFORMS THAT WE USE. THANK YOU TO YOU MADAM MAYOR. JUST A MOMENT. UH, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL. UM, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, UM, I, I NEED TO COMMENT BECAUSE I, I WANNA ADDRESS PART OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID, BUT I, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THERE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS THAT ARE BOUNCING ALL OVER THE PLACE ON THIS DISCUSSION. I THOUGHT I HEARD THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR SAY TO THIS [02:55:01] COMMISSION THAT THEY NEEDED YOU TO ACT BY CONSENSUS TO SELECT ONE OF THESE, ONE OF THE SEVERAL PROPOSALS. AND I BELIEVE THE REFERENCE WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO EITHER GO WITH THE EXISTING, UH, VENDOR OR SERVICE PROVIDER. THIS COMMISSION CANNOT ACT ON AN ITEM AT A WORKSHOP. YOU SHOULD NOT BE MAKING DECISIONS AT A WORKSHOP. I CONTINUE TO ASK STAFF. I CONTINUE TO EXPRESS TO YOU AS INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS, WE CANNOT MAKE DECISIONS AT A WORKSHOP. AND I THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO ASK THE COMMISSION TO MAKE DECISIONS AT A WORKSHOP BY CONSENSUS OR OTHERWISE ON THE PROCUREMENT MATTER. THERE IS ALSO A PROCUREMENT PROCESS. I ALSO HEARD IN THIS DISCUSSION STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO USE ONE PARTICULAR VENDOR, WHETHER IT'S THE EXISTING VENDOR OR ONE OF THE OTHER OF THE SEVERAL VENDORS. IF STAFF IS PROPOSING A SINGLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT, THERE'S A PROCESS FOR SINGLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT. I ENCOURAGE COMMISSIONERS, EACH OF YOU READ THE PROCUREMENT CODE SECTION 82 DASH 3 5 8 TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOLE SOURCE, SINGLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT ARE AN EXCEPTION TO WHAT IS GENERALLY REQUIRED TO BE COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT. COMPETITIVE MEANING EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PURCHASE OR THE PROVISION OF GOODS OR SERVICES OUGHT TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN STAFF GOES THROUGH THE EXCEPTIONS. AND I KNOW STAFF WELL ON THIS, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. A SMALL CITY HAS TO UTILIZE SOME OF THOSE EXCEPTIONS. BUT WHAT SHOULD NOT BE DOING, WHAT SHOULD NOT BE DONE TONIGHT IS TO SUGGEST THAT THIS COMMISSION BY CONSENSUS CAN SELECT A VENDOR FOR HALF A MILLION OR $450,000 PROCUREMENT. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I RECOMMEND THAT THIS COMMISSION TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. SO THE EXTENT TO WHICH DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE, I AM SAYING TO YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS THAT I ABSOLUTELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO FOLLOW YOUR PROCUREMENT. I KNOW BOBBY KNOWS THE PROCUREMENT. SHE CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR A SINGLE OR SOLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT. IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF SELECTING A DEVELOPER YOU LIKE, OR DEVELOPER THAT YOU WANT. IT'S A MATTER OF SATISFYING THE CRITERIA THAT I OUTLINED IN THE PROCUREMENT CODE. I'LL LEAVE IT THERE. MADAM MAYOR, MR. HARRISON, SORRY. UH, THROUGH YOU HAVE, HAVE ALL THESE VENDORS BEEN THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT CODE PROCESS, UH, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, WHEN YOU SAY PROCUREMENT CODE PROCESS, DO YOU MEAN A COMPETITIVE PROCESS? I MEAN THE WAY THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST EXPLAINED IT. SO AGAIN, THIS IS A DISCUSSION TONIGHT. WE WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR AN APPROVAL. UH, WE ARE SIMPLY ADVISING YOU OF THE PROCESSES WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH. AND IN TERMS OF PROCUREMENT, THESE ARE THE COMPANIES. UM, SOME OF THEM DO HAVE COMPETITIVE AWARDS, BUT SOME OF THEM DO NOT. WE DID NOT PURSUE A COMPETITIVE PROCESS BECAUSE THERE JUST WEREN'T COMPANIES INTERESTED IN DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY IN THAT AVENUE. MAD MAYOR, I'M SORRY BOB. I WAS HAVING DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WERE THESE COMPANIES PUT THROUGH A PROCUREMENT PROCESS AS EXPLAINED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, MS. BOBBY? THROUGH, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR? UH, THEY WERE NOT PUT THROUGH A FORMAL COMPETITIVE PROCESS. OH MY GOD. OKAY. AND A FORMAL COMPETITIVE PROCESS IS WHERE IT'S A SEALED BID PROCESS. UH, WE USED, UH, CONTRACTORS THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN AWARDED OTHER CONTRACTS THROUGH OTHER AGENCIES, WHICH IS EITHER COOPERATIVE CONTRACT OR A PIGGYBACK CONTRACT. AT SOME POINT THEY WERE AWARDED BY SOMEONE ELSE THROUGH A PROCESS AND WE REACHED OUT TO A FEW TO COME OVER TO SEE IF THEY COULD SERVICE OUR CITY COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. AND IT'S RARE, BUT I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT TAKES, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE ARE JUST TALKING. RIGHT? AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK FOR APPROVAL AND THEN WAS THE TIMEFRAME. SO MY QUESTION IS IN MORE ELEGANT WAY IS WHY DID IT TAKE YOU THIS TIME TO PRESENT IT TO US TODAY? WHAT ABOUT THE LAST, [03:00:01] LAST MONTH, TWO MONTHS AGO? WHY, WHY IS IT DONE NOW IN SUCH SHORT SPACE OF TIME? SO YOU MAD MAYOR, THAT IS A GREAT, GREAT, GREAT QUESTION. AND ONE OF THE REASONS IT'S JUST COMING TO YOU IS BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH A FEW COMPANIES AND BEFORE WE COULD GET TO THIS POINT WHERE WE ARE DISCUSSING, UH, WE'D LIKE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, VENDOR TO DO THIS SERVICE. THEY WOULD BACK OUT ON US AND SAY, I'M NOT INTERESTED ANYMORE. AND WE WENT THROUGH THAT THREE TIMES AND THAT THAT'S A LENGTHY PROCESS WITH WORKING WITH A VENDOR FOR A FEW MONTHS. THEN AT THE END OF THE PROCESS THEY DETERMINE, WELL THIS, THIS PROJECT EITHER ISN'T ENOUGH FOR US OR IT'S GONNA BE TOO, TOO COMPREHENSIVE FOR WHAT WE'VE ALREADY QUOTED. YOU DO YOU . BUT ALSO TOO, NOW THAT OUR NEW PROCESS IS TO TO COME TO YOU BEFORE WE PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR AWARD AS A DISCUSSION, THAT DOES PUT US BACK ABOUT A GOOD MONTH OR SO. COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. SO WHEN DID YOU START DOING, DOING THOSE RESEARCH AND PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER? HOW LONG AGO YOU'VE BEEN DOING THAT? GREAT QUESTION. AFTER YOU MADAM MAYOR. THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER AS OF OCTOBER ONE. THE PROJECTS WERE FULLY FUNDED. WE HAVE A PROCUREMENT ADMINISTRATOR WHO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT SINCE AROUND NOVEMBER TRYING TO GET A CONTRACTOR 'CAUSE WE UNDERSTOOD THE TIMEFRAME FOR THE CERTIFICATION AND WE WERE TRYING, 'CAUSE WE KNOW THE PROJECT ALSO TAKES ABOUT SIX WEEKS TO SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS TO, TO COMPLETE MM-HMM . AND SO WHAT WE WERE, WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO GET IT DONE MONTHS AGO, BUT ONLY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THOSE INSTANCES WHERE THE COMPANY'S ACTUALLY BACKED OUT ON US. OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT. ANY HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU THOMAS. UM, SO THIS ITEM WILL BE COMING BACK FOR AS A RESOLUTION OR UH, FOR YOU MADAM MAYOR. WE WOULD, UH, LIKE TO, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY AT YOUR DISCRETION IF YOU WANT US TO GO BACK AND DO ADDITIONAL WORK OR IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION, WE WOULD LOVE TO BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING. MAYOR ADAM. SORRY THOMAS, YOU TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. MR. POWERWAY? YES. MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS AGAIN, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AMBIGUITY. UM, A STAFF DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE A COMPETITIVE PROCESS IF THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF A SINGLE AND SOLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT. SO IF STAFF IS SAYING THAT THEY'LL BRING SOMETHING BACK THAT HAS ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES THAT MEETS THE CRITERIA OF THE SINGLE OR SOLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT CODE OR PROVISION, THEN THAT WOULD PASS MUSTER. AND I'M SAYING THAT TO SAY, UH, 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT THE, THE COMMISSION TO BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COMPETITIVE PROCESS, YOU DON'T, BUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS HAVE A SELECTION PROCESS ON THAT SOLE SOURCE THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENT. AND STAFF SHOULD BE SHARING WITH YOU WHY THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENT. AND IF THAT IS MET, THEN THE RESOLUTION, UH, SHOULD HAVE THE APPROPRIATE EXHIBITS AND THAT YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A DECISION ON AND STILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAW. PERFECT. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THAT FINANCE IS LOOKING FOR DIRECTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'LL BE BRINGING THIS ITEM BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. AS OF RESOLUTION, I BELIEVE THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS, UH, A FEW OPTIONS FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO CONSIDER. AND THOSE OPTIONS ARE MS. FABE, IS THAT A MANAGER? UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE, UM, OPTION ONE SFES CORP. ELEVATOR COMPANY. OH, I'M SORRY. YOU, YOU, YOU'RE REFERENCING THE COMPANIES? YES. I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERENCING OPTIONS AS FAR AS THE ITEM IS CONCERNED. MM-HMM. MADAM MAYOR, THE VARIOUS COMPANIES. OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. I JUST WANNA SAY, I THINK WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE SHOULD BE ASKING STAFF MAYBE IS TO GO BACK AND, UH, MAKE SURE THESE COMPANIES MEET THE CRITERIA OF EITHER COMPETITIVE OR SOLE SOURCE. AND THEN WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION TO YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. I THINK IT'S, THEY ALREADY DID THAT, AND THEY FOUND OUT THAT DELAWARE ELEVATORS, WHO HAS BEEN SERVICING OUR ELEVATOR, WAS THE BEST ONE BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS INCLUDED AND, UM, THERE'S NO RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITY. AM I RIGHT THROUGH MADAM MAYOR? THAT IS CORRECT. BUT, BUT ALSO TOO, I DO WANT TO CAVEAT [03:05:01] ON MR. CALLOWAY'S, UH, COMMENT. THIS WILL BE, UH, SUBMITTED AS A SINGLE SOURCE, UH, AWARD. WE WILL BE REQUESTING, UH, AN EXCEPTION TO THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS. OKAY, ALEX? I'M IN FAVOR. I'M IN FAVOR, MADAM MAYOR. MY, MY APOLOGIES. MR. RON SAYS, UH, THIS IS A COOPERATIVE BID, SO IT'S STILL AN EXCEPTION, UM, BUT IT'LL BE SIMILAR TO THE ITEM I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WHEN WE WERE USING THE COOPERATIVE BID. SO YOU'LL HAVE A COPY OF THE COOPERATIVE BID AND YOU'LL HAVE A COPY OF THE ESTIMATE FROM THE COMPANY SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY. COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S ALMO THIS AND, UM, UM, MOVING FORWARD. I WILL, THE DELRAY, THE DELAWARE ELEVATORS. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET A RESOLUTION MOVING FORWARD. COMMISSIONER, VICE MAYOR, I'M IN FAVOR, SINGLE SOURCE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. HOPEFULLY IT CAN BE DONE IN AUGUST WHEN THE CHAMBER IS VACANT. SO AM I, MR. THOMAS? I'M IN FAVOR MR. HARRISON. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. ALRIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. YOU SIT UP HERE AND SAY YES OR NO. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. WHAT IF YOU SAY NO, IT DON'T HAPPEN. AND THEN WHAT? WE GET IN TROUBLE AS ELECTEDS. IS THAT A YES OR NO? IT'S ABSTAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS A AGAIN, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WHAT THE COMMISSION IS EXPRESSING IS CONSENSUS, NOT AN AGREEMENT. THAT'S CORRECT. MM-HMM . NOT A VOTE. CORRECT. SO, CONSENSUS, THANK YOU TO THANK YOU MR. RON. THANK YOU MS. BOBBY. [I.  DISCUSSION REGARDING THE AUTHORIZATION TO APPLY TO THE FY 2025 COPS HIRING PROGRAM (CHP) THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES] MADAM MANAGER. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE I DISCUSSION REGARDING THE AUTHORIZATION TO APPLY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2025. COPS HIRING GRANT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICE AND SERVICES. AND MS. BOBBY WILLIAMS WILL BE PRESENTING THAT ITEM THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY. GOOD EVENING, UH, MADAM MAYOR AND, UH, . OUR PROTOCOL HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. I PROMISE YOU THIS WILL BE MY LAST TIME, UH, SPEAKING THIS EVENING. UH, FOR THE RECORD, I AM BOBBY WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES. AND, UH, THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT IS JUST TO, UH, GET YOUR, YOUR DIRECTION ON WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY CAN APPLY, UH, FOR THE, UH, COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES GRANT. UH, NUMBER 25. UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOES HAVE SOME CURRENT, UH, WHAT WE CALL COPS PROGRAMS OR COPS GRANTS RIGHT NOW. UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, WE ARE HOPING TO, UH, APPLY FOR TWO MORE. UH, KEEP IN MIND THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT A ALL INCLUSIVE GRANT. IT'S MORE OF A 25%, UH, DISCOUNT ON AN OFFICER. AND THERE IS A REQUIREMENT TO KEEP THE OFFICER FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR YEARS. UH, THREE OF THE GRANT PERIOD, THREE OF THE GRANT YEARS, AND THEN ONE 12 MONTHS, UH, AFTER THE GRANT EXPIRES. UH, SO IT'S, UH, QUITE EXPENSIVE AND WE DO HAVE TO BUDGET ACCORDINGLY TO ENSURE, UH, THAT WE, UH, DO HAVE THE, UH, GENERAL FUND, UH, AVAILABLE FOR THESE TWO OFFICERS. BUT IN TERMS OF THE NEED AND IN TERMS OF THE POLICE OPERATIONS, I LIKE TO DEFER TO, UH, BIG GUNS, CAPTAIN WARNELL, CAPTAIN PHILLIPS, THE BIG GUNS PROTOCOL ESTABLISHED. SO, UM, THIS COP, SO WE'VE ALREADY STARTED ONE COPS GRANT THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN OPERATIONS NOW. AND, UM, THAT, THAT GRANT IS ACTUALLY WORKING VERY WELL TO HELP US FILL THE, UM, NEEDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WITHIN THE CITY. THIS GRANT HERE WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO CONTINUE ON THAT PATH TO GET OUR NUMBERS UP AS FAR AS THE NEED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKE. SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE, UM, CITY TO GET THESE OFFICERS AT A DISCOUNTED RATE WITH THE PROMISES OF KEEPING THOSE POSITIONS ONCE THE GRANT IS OVER. UM, OUR GRANTS DIVISION, WE WE'RE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE PRELIMINARY PAPERWORK TOGETHER, IF YOU ALL SUPPORT THIS, AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF, UM, THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES. QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES, COMMISSIONER THOMAS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. UM, CAPTAIN, UH, [03:10:01] SO THIS GRANT WOULD COVER THREE YEARS, TWO YEARS, AND THEN THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO COVER AFTER THAT. THIS IS TYPICALLY DONE AT AN ESCALATED RATE. I THINK THE FIRST YEAR THEY PAY 75% OF THE ACTUAL COST. THE SECOND YEAR, 50%, THE THIRD YEAR, 25%. AND THEN THE, UM, CITY HAS TO MAINTAIN 100% OF THE COST THAT FOURTH YEAR. I THINK THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE. SO, OKAY. I DON'T KNOW A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT IT'S SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR COMMISSION HAPPENS. SO AS IT STANDS, WE HAVE TWO OFFICERS FROM THE, UM, WHAT IS THIS? WHAT'S THIS? GRANT? GRANT JOCK'S GRANT. UM, AND SO THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL TWO, RIGHT? YES. ADDITIONAL TWO YES. OFFICERS. SO THEN IT WOULD BE STAGGERED IN TERMS OF US TAKEN ON THE FIRST SET THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO COVER. AND THEN THIS NEXT SET, THAT'S YES. THAT HAS TO BE COVERED, YES. ALRIGHT, MS. COMMISSIONER JONES. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. MS. BOBBY, HOW DOES THAT WORK, MS. BOBBY? IN TERMS OF PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET? UH, CAPTAIN PHILLIPS WASN'T SO SURE AS TO THE STAGGERING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PERCENTAGE, CAN YOU JUST ELABORATE ON THAT, PLEASE? MM-HMM . SURE. DO YOU MADAM MAYOR? UM, IT IS A 25% DISCOUNT. IT COULD BE MORE OR LESS. UH, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE TIMING OF US RECEIVING THE OFFICER. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT, UH, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD, UH, CAPTAIN PHILLIPS, UH, TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ESCALATION. BUT TYPICALLY IT WILL BE A FULL THREE YEAR PERIOD PLUS THE ONE EXTRA YEAR THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP THE OFFICER ON BOARD. AND ALL THAT MEANS IS WE CAN'T DECIDE TO ELIMINATE THE POSITION BECAUSE NOW WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. WE HAVE TO COMMIT TO THE GRANT PERIOD, WHICH IS THREE YEARS PLUS THAT EXTRA 12, 12, UH, MONTHS OF, UH, SERVICE COMMISSIONER THOMAS. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. SO WHAT I AM SAYING, MS. BOBBY, WITH THE OTHER TWO THAT WAS BROUGHT ON FROM THIS GRANT, THIS IS NOT NEGATE WHAT'S HERE CURRENTLY. WHEN ARE, WHEN IS THE CITY, WILL THE CITY BE RESPONSIBLE TO FULLY TAKE ON THOSE TWO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF WE'RE APPLYING AGAIN, THEN HERE AGAIN TO ESCALATE AND UNTIL WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. SO YOU, MADAM MAYOR, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND THE, UH, UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. SO CURRENTLY COPS 23 MM-HMM . IS THE GRANT THAT WE JUST EXECUTED THE MOU WITH FOR THE CONTRACT WITH BSO. MM-HMM . THE OFFICERS AREN'T EVEN QUITE ON BOARD AS OF YET? NO. OH, OKAY. MY BAD. OH, SO OUR OFFICERS ARE ON BOARD NOW. OKAY. AND SO TIME STARTS NOW. SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE YEARS FOR THE GRANT PERIOD, PLUS ONE EXTRA YEAR. AND YES, WE WILL FULLY FUND THEM ON YEAR FOUR. UM, SO BETWEEN NOW AND THE THREE YEAR DURATION OF THE GRANT, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE GRANT IS WORTH 250,000 FOR THE, FOR THE TWO OFFICERS. UH, BUT HERE'S THE, UH, CAVEAT, UM, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT ACTUALLY COSTS FOR AN OFFICER. UH, WE HAVE ALWAYS ASKED FOR, WE DON'T WANT A BRAND NEW OFFICER, ALTHOUGH THEY COULD BE CHEAP, BUT THEY AREN'T QUITE SEASONED OR FAMILIAR WHAT WE THINK THEY'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, YOU KNOW, OUR TERRITORY. AND WE DON'T WANT AN OLD SOLDIER 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE REALLY EXPENSIVE. RIGHT. SO WE TRY TO LIKE HAVE, UH, CAPTAIN PHILLIPS, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE. AND HIS, UH, EXECUTIVE STAFF WORK ON WHAT THAT HAPPY MEDIUM IS FOR OUR CITY. UM, BUT IT'S UP TO 250,000, UH, FOR THE TOTAL GRANT FOR THE TWO OFFICERS. MADAM MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR, MS. BOB. IT'S REALLY 125,000 PER OFFICER MADAM MAYOR. YOU CAN, YOU CAN SAY THAT 1 25 PER OFFICER, BUT, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE. ONE OFFICER COULD COST A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAN THE OTHER. UH, SO THE SCALE MAY BE OFF A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE TOTAL GRANT IS 250, UH, BETWEEN BOTH OFFICERS. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU. UM, MS. BY THANK YOU CAPTAIN PHILLIPS. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. AND COMMISSIONERS. ITEM NUMBER, SORRY, MADAM MANAGER. YOU MADAM MAYOR. DO WE, UH, HAVE THE DIRECTION TO HAVE BSO TO ASSIST IN THE APPLICATION OF THE GRANT? OR SHOULD WE COME BACK AND PRESENT MORE INFORMATION? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? MADAM MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR THAT THEY COME BACK, GIVE US SOME MORE INFORMATION. BUT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE BALL POWER FIGURE OF AN OFFICER FROM BASO? MM-HMM . [03:15:01] UH, THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $125,000 OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD. AND OVER THE THREE YEAR PERIOD, WE'RE LOOKING TO SPEND $612,500 ON ONE OFFICER. ON TWO OFFICERS. ON TWO OFFICERS. SO, SO THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO APPLY. I KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS IMPORTANT AND WE KNOW THAT MANY, MANY YEARS AGO WHEN THE CITY DID GO THROUGH ITS FINANCIAL CRISIS, WE HAD TO ELIMINATE QUITE A FEW POLICE OFFICERS. UH, SO I KNOW THAT WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, REGAIN THAT MOMENTUM OR INCREASE THE COMPLIMENT OF THE POLICE OFFICERS. SO THIS IS JUST US LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THE OPPORTUNITY IS AVAILABLE, UM, AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE COPS 23, THAT'S BRAND NEW AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN PAID A BILL YET FOR COPS 23. IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD WAIT OUT THIS TIME FOR COPS 25. IT'S TOTALLY UP TO THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMISSION. MADAM MAYOR, MR. HARRISON. THANK YOU. SO WE STILL HAVE FUNDING IN, IN 23, RIGHT? SO YOU MADAM MAYOR? YES, THE, UH, GRANT IS CALLED COPS 23, BUT THE FUNDING IS JUST, UH, IT JUST STARTED 'CAUSE WE JUST RECEIVED THE OFFICERS. NOT SURE IF IT'S BEEN A MONTH YET. UM, BUT UM, IT'S JUST CALLED COPS 23, UH, BECAUSE THAT WAS A YEAR THAT WE APPLIED FOR IT. UM, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S EXTENDED THROUGH THREE YEARS FROM NOW. UH, SIX OR 7 28, I THINK 28, AND THEN 29, WE WOULD HAVE TO FULLY FUND THE OFFICER. THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION, MS. BOBBY. SO THE COMPLIMENT THAT WE HAVE OF OFFICERS WHO JUST STARTED IN 2029, WE WOULD HAVE TO PICK UP FULL FUNDING OF THAT, THAT ONE YEAR REQUIREMENT. THAT IS CORRECT. THROUGH YOU MAD MAYOR. AND IF WE APPLY AND RECEIVE FUNDING, THAT WILL BE IN 2026 THROUGH YOU MAD MAYOR. IF WE WERE TO APPLY NOW, YES, WE WOULD KNOW IN SEPTEMBER OF 2025 IF WE RECEIVED THE GRANT OR NOT. NOW IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO ACTUALLY GET THE PAPERWORK AND THE AGREEMENTS AND THE MOUS ESTABLISHED AS YOU SEE WITH CO 23. UH, SO WE ANTICIPATE MAYBE A YEAR FROM, UM, THE AWARD OF THE GRANT THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY START TO GET THE DOCUMENTS FROM BSO OR THROUGH THE U-S-D-O-J TO, TO START THE WORK WITH, UM, TRYING TO FIRM UP THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE BSO AND THE CITY. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY 2026 IF WE RECEIVE FUNDING. 2026 TO BEGIN THE NEW COPS PROGRAM THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR? YES, MA'AM. I WOULD ANTICIPATE A YEAR. A YEAR. SO WE WOULD HAVE 2026 BEGINNING THE PROGRAM FOR THE NEW COPS. AND IN 2026 WE WILL BE IN THE THIRD YEAR, THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CURRENT COPS. SO YOU MADAM MAYOR, THE FIRST YEAR OF COPS 23. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. THOMAS. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. I, I'M IN AGREEMENT THAT'S ALWAYS, SAFETY IS, UM, ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENT OF A CITY TO MAKE OTHERS EVEN WANNA COME INTO THE CITY. SO I, I'M IN AGREEMENT FOR A APPLYING FOR THIS MAYOR. I'M IN AGREEMENT, UM, WITH OUR SAFETY NEEDS AS AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO FIRST SEE IF WHAT WE ARE JUST BEEN GIVEN THROUGH BSO, IF, IF THAT CAN HELP MITIGATE THE CRIME. AND MAYBE THAT COULD BE ENOUGH FOR NOW, UH, BEFORE WE MAYBE REVISIT THIS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE INFORMATION, BUT, UH, MAYBE WHAT WE'VE RECENTLY GOTTEN THESE TWO COPS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WE ARE REGIONALLY WITHIN BSO, IT'S A REGIONAL SETUP. SO, UM, I I THINK WE NEED SOME TIME TO SEE IF THAT HAS A GOOD EFFECT. WE MAY COME BACK TO THIS AND SAY, WE ONLY NEED ONE MORE OFFICER INSTEAD OF TWO, YOU KNOW, SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE. MR. MAX WILLIAMS. OH, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UH, SORRY. UM, I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD, UM, FOR IT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM. WE, AS YOU SAID, THE COMMUNITY IS WORRIED ABOUT SAFETY AND POLICING. AND IF THIS WILL HELP, UM, WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND GET ON IT BECAUSE IF WE DELAY IT AND DO IT ANOTHER TIME, THAT'S MORE TIME AGAIN WAITING. SO, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT. ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS THAT OUR COMMUNITY TALKS ABOUT IS PUBLIC SAFETY AND INCREASING PUBLIC SAFETY. AND I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND APPLY FOR IT IF THE COPS, OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE NOW WORK, THAT'S AN, THAT'S AN OPTION ALSO, THAT IF THEY WORK, THEN WE WILL THEN BE ON THE ROAD TO OTHER OFFICERS. SO I'M IN [03:20:01] AGREEMENT TO IT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION. I THINK THAT'S THREE IN AGREEMENT. THREE IN AGREEMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MADAM [J.  DISCUSSION REGARDING RENAMING THE MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING AFTER BROWARD COUNTY COMMISSIONER HAZELLE ROGERS (SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER MAXWELL-WILLIAMS)] MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE J. DISCUSSION REGARDING RENAMING THE MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING AFTER BROWARD COUNTY COMMISSIONER HAZEL ROGERS. THIS ITEM IS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, AS YOU KNOW, MISS, UH, HAZEL ROGERS, SHE, UM, HAS A VERY, UH, IMPRESSIVE POLITICAL CAREER SINCE 1996. UM, SHE WAS OUR MAYOR FROM 2016 TO 2022, AND SHE WAS OUR FIRST, UH, FEMALE AND CARIBBEAN AMERICAN MAYOR. UM, SHE HAS DONE A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY. UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, I AM CONSIDERING THAT WE HOPE WE CAN CONSIDER THE MULTIPURPOSE CENTER. IT DOESN'T HAVE A NAME, SO IT WON'T BE TAKEN AWAY. A NAME FROM THE CENTER TO CALL IT. UM, HAZEL P ROGERS MULTIPURPOSE CENTER, OR HAZEL P ROGERS COMMUNITY CENTER. BOTH TITLES REFLECT THE PROFOUND IMPACT SHE HAS MADE AND CONTINUE TO INSPIRE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. MADAM VICE MAYOR, I WOULD MAYBE AGREE, BUT NORTHGATE PARK, THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION HERE, MR. MILLER AND OTHERS WHO ARE THE, SHE'S THE PRESIDENT OF NORTHGATE COMMUNITY PARK, AND I WOULD PREFER, I, I AM ADDING COMMISSIONER HAZEL ROGERS NAME TO THE PARK. AND MY REASON FOR THAT IS SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING THE LAND FOR THAT PARK AND I THINK FOR THE SWIMMING POOL. AND OTIS GRAY, SHE WAS PART OF BROAD COUNTY LAND, WHATEVER IT IS. THE MULTIPURPOSE CENTER IS 1991, WHERE COMMISSIONER ROGERS WAS NO, WAS NOT A PART OF THE CITY. SO FOR ME, IF I'M GOING TO BE RELEVANT, I WOULD PREFER HER GATE. I WOULD PREFER NAMING, ADDING ON HER NAME TO NORTH GATE COMMUNITY PARK. ANY OTHER INPUT? I DON'T MATTER. I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN'T NAME THE PARK AND THE CENTER AFTER HER. OKAY. YOU VOTE . OKAY. YOU MATTER. MAYOR, INPUT COMMISSIONER THOMAS. OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. I, UM, THE MULTIPURPOSE, YES, BUT I, I, I COULD SEE IT IN HERE IN MY COLLEAGUE IN TERMS OF, UM, HER BEING INSTRUMENTAL IN THE PARK AREA BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS FOR NORTHGATE COMMUNITY, THEY DIDN'T WANT THE PARK ITSELF TO BE NAMED HAZEL ROGERS PARK. AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME, UM, LEGAL THINGS AS WELL IN TERMS OF RENAMING OF A SPECIFIC LOCATION. UM, LISTEN, SHE'S DONE A LOT FOR LAUDERDALE LAKES AND, UM, SOMEHOW THE MULTIPURPOSE WITH THE ALZHEIMER'S, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO JIVE WITH ME. THAT COMBINATION MADAM, MA'AM. OH, SORRY. I WANTED, THANK YOU. UM, IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE THE COMMISSIONER COME AND SAY WHAT SHE WOULD PROBABLY PREFER? SURE. IS THAT POSSIBLE? WELL, SHE CAN GIVE INPUT, BUT THE FINAL DECISION WILL BE THE COMMISSION. AND I'M WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION THAT I, IN THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION WITH NORTHGATE PARK, WITH COMMISSIONER ROGERS RESUME, IF YOU WILL, AND HOW SHE HAS IMPACTED OUR COMMUNITY, WHAT SHE HAS DONE OVER THE YEARS, LAUDERDALE LAKES, NO MATTER WHERE SHE IS, LAUDERDALE LAKES IS ALWAYS FIRST, WELL, I CAN'T SAY FIRST ON MIND FOR HER, BUT LAUDERDALE LAKES IS ON HER MIND. AND NORTHGATE PARK, IF WE ARE GOING TO NAME SOMETHING AFTER COMMISSIONER ROGERS, NORTHGATE PARK IS MORE VISIBLE [03:25:01] THAN THE MULTIPURPOSE CENTER IS. WE ONLY, RESIDENTS ONLY COME TO MULTIPURPOSE CENTER FOR, FOR EVENTS, IF YOU WILL. OUR SENIOR PROGRAM IS THERE. HOWEVER, NORTHGATE PARK IS VERY, VERY CLOSE TO 4 41, WHICH IS AN INTERSECTION WHERE, WHICH IS MOST TRAVELED IN BROWARD COUNTY. SO I THINK THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO NAME SOMETHING FOR COMMISSIONER ROGERS, THAT IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE VISIBLE TO, ON NOT ONLY RESIDENTS IN DALE LAKES, BUT RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, WHICH SHE NOW ALSO IMPACTS. MADAM MAYOR, MAD MAYOR. I'M SORRY, EXCUSE ME. SO, UM, I WAS, THE, THE PARK, THE DISCUSSION WE HAD ON THE PARK WAS THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO REMOVE THE NAME. IT WAS GOING TO SAY NORGATE SLASH THEY DID NOT WANT THE WORD NORGATE PARK TO BE REMOVED. THEY WERE GOING TO SAY NORGATE SLASH UM, UH, HAZEL P ROGERS. SO, UM, YES, THERE IT'S VISIBLE, BUT THE MULTIPURPOSE CENTER, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE, AND AGAIN, SHE, AS YOU AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID, WE CAN ASK HER OPINION ON IT. UM, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE THE CENTER WOULD BE BETTER BECAUSE WE RENTED IT A LOT. WE USE IT A LOT. IT HER NAME, IT'S THERE, PEOPLE PASS AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, OKAY. BUT THE CENTER IS USED 24 7 7 DAYS A WEEK. SO HER NAME WILL BE ALWAYS ON SOMEBODY'S TONGUE SAYING SOMETHING. SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THE CENTER, BUT I AM OPEN TO THE PART TOO, SO AGAIN, WE CAN ASK HER OPINION ON IT AND SEE WHAT SHE SAYS. ALRIGHT, MAYOR, SORRY, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER? UM, I, I'M IN AGREEANCE WITH HONORING, UM, THE COMMISSIONER, FORMER MAYOR IN SOME TYPE OF CAPACITY. I THINK, UH, SHE HAS A, A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE. UM, I KNOW THE MULTIPURPOSE CENTER WOULD BE GOOD FOR CERTAIN REASONS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE EVERYBODY GOES TO VOTE. SO THAT'S A PLUS. PEOPLE WILL SEE THAT AS THEY GO TO VOTE. UM, AND THE PARK, THERE'S SOME PLUSES TO THAT TOO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE KIDS GO TO PLAY. SO AS THEY GROW UP TO VOTE, THEY'RE GONNA REMEMBER THEIR NAME. SO, UM, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH EITHER OR TO BE HONEST, BUT, UM, IT'S AT THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT ALSO MATTERS HOW SHE FEELS. YOU KNOW, MAYBE SHE DOESN'T LIKE THE PARK. MAYBE SHE DOESN'T LIKE THE MULTIPURPOSE CENTER. SO IT'S MY THOUGHTS TO YOU. MAD MAYOR, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. SO IF I AM WILLING TO SEE HOW WE WORK IT OUT THAT SHE COULD COME AND SAY HER P OR WHAT SHE FEELS ABOUT WHICH ONE SHE PREFER, ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN RECEIVE HER INPUT. OKAY. ALRIGHT, WE'LL WORK ON THAT. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER THOMAS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, MR. RON, I KNOW THERE WAS, UM, SOME QUESTION AS TO THE NAME, ADD IN THE NAME. COULD YOU BRING SOME CLARIFICATION TO THAT WITH WANTING TO CHANGE A NAME OR ADD A NAME? HOW DOES THAT WORK, SIR? MR. RON? UH, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. UH, PROTOCOL ESTABLISHED, UH, MADAM MAYOR, THE COURT OF AUDIENCE, UH, CHAPTER SEC, CHAPTER TWO, ARTICLE SEVEN, UH, DIVISION THREE SETS THE POLICY AND PROCESS FOR NAMING AND RENAMING CITY FACILITIES. AND THE ORDINANCE WAS AMENDED IN 2021. MM-HMM . AND, UH, WITH SOME MINOR CHANGES. ONE OF 'EM WAS THE DEFINITION OF INDIVIDUAL, WHICH BEFORE THAT, UH, REQUIRED, UH, INDIVIDUAL AS DEFINED AS, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT THEY DIED. YES, THE PERSON HAS TO BE DECEASED WITHIN ONE YEAR. THAT, UH, PORTION WAS STRIKE OUT FROM THE DEFINITION, BUT THEY, THERE WAS ALSO SOME ADDED LANGUAGE TO THE POLICY, WHICH REQUIRE, UH, A NAME CHANGE OR, UH, RENAMING, UH, TO BE DONE BY ORDINANCE. BUT THERE HAS TO BE A VOTE OF, UH, UNANIMOUS VOTE OF ALL FIVE. UH, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER, NOT AMERICANS. MR. HARRISON, JUST REAL QUICK, RON, WHAT ARE THE, OR, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT'S, THAT'S CITY FACILITIES. IS THERE AN ORDINANCE FOR NAME CHANGING FOR STREET SIGNS? AND WHAT CAN WE DO AND CAN'T DO IN TERMS OF STREET SIGNS IN THE CITY? UH, THROUGH , MR. RON, UH, THROUGH THE ORDINANCE, CITY, CITY FACILITIES DEFINED AS STREET, UH, BUILDING, UH, ALL THAT, UH, BELONG TO, TO THE CITY PROPERTY? YES. OKAY. WHEN MADAM, I DID SEND TO THE CLOCK FOR THAT AND THEN I GOT IT. BUT THE ALREADY ANSWER WAS CHANGED WHEREBY A LIVING PERSON CAN BE ADDED ON SOMEONE WHO HAS REALLY IMPACTED THE COMMUNITY. [03:30:01] AND OF COURSE, I LOOK ON HAY ROGERS AS THE STAPLE OF LAUDERDALE LAKES. 'CAUSE WHEREVER YOU GO, SOMEONE KNOWS HER NAME. SO IT'S, THERE IS NO PROBLEM. THE ORDINANCE WAS CHANGED AS MR. RON SAID IN 2021. SO YOU CAN GET A COPY FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE. AND MR. AND COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS, FYI, WHEN IT WAS CHANGED, SHE WAS THE MAYOR. YES. BUT AT THAT IT WAS CHANGED. 21. YES, SHE WAS MR. WILLIAMS. YES. SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. UM, I WILL, I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO SEE OUR STAFF TO SEE IF SHE COULD COME IN AND SAY HER, HER VIEWS ON IT. AND WHICHEVER ONE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WILL BE ALL, WILL BE OPEN TO MOVE FORWARD. HOPEFULLY. I WANNA, WE GOT THREE. YOU MADAM MAYOR. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THIS SOME MORE. WE NEED ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS TO VOTE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. IS THAT CORRECT, MR. RON? MM-HMM . OH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEAR SOME MORE ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. THANK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MR. RON. ITEM [K.  DISCUSSION REGARDING AN UPDATE TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FEE SCHEDULE] NUMBER FIVE L DISCUSSION REGARDING AN UPDATE TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FEE SCHEDULE. MADAM MAYOR. UH, IT'S K. KK. KAY. I STAND CORRECTED. KAY. AND WE HAVE TANJA MCCOY, MS. TANJA, THAT WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MADAM MAYOR PROTOCOL ESTABLISHED MS. TANJA. SO THIS ITEM IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS TO INITIATE A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE UPDATE TO THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES BUILDING CODE ENFORCEMENT FEE SCHEDULE. THIS DISCUSSION IS NECESSARY TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, MAINTENANCE, FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY AND OPERATIONS, AND TO ENSURE THAT THE FEES COLLECTED ARE PROPORTIONAL TO THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW, INSPECTION, AND ENFORCEMENT FUNCTIONS. THE CURRENT BUILDING FEES STRUCTURE FOR THE CITY OF DALE LAKES HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED IN CHAPTER 13 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND HAS NOT UNDERGONE A COMPREHENSIVE REVISION IN SEVERAL YEARS. MANY OF THE FEES PROVISIONS REMAIN BASED ON ORDINANCES ADOPTED BETWEEN 2007 AND 2017, WITH LIMITED OR NO ADJUSTMENT FOR INFLATION OR THE GROWING COMPLEXITY OF DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND INSPECTION PROCESSES. A COMPARISON OF THE LAUDERDALE LAKE'S CURRENT BUILDING FEE SCHEDULE WITH UPDATED STATUTORY GUIDANCE AND PRACTICES IN OTHER FLORIDA JURISDICTIONS REVEAL SEVERAL AREAS IN NEED OF MODERNIZATION, A FEE ALIGNMENT, THE CURRENT STRUCTURE PERMIT FEES, MINIMUM FEES, AND PLAN REVIEW CHARGES MAY NOT REFLECT THE ACTUAL COST OF INSPECTION SERVICES OR TECHNICAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT. FOR INSTANCE, THE MINIMUM PERMIT FEE REMAIN AT 1 0 5 A FIGURE THAT NO LONGER ALIGNS WITH OPERATIONAL COSTS OR REGIONAL BENCHMARKS. THE CITY IS CURRENTLY PAYING A THIRD PARTY AN AVERAGE OF $106 PER HOUR TO COMPLETE A PERMIT RELATED ACTIVITY. TECHNOLOGICAL INTEGRATION OF THE FLORIDA LAW NOW MANDATES ELECTRONIC APPLICATION SUBMISSION, ONLINE FEE SCHEDULES, AND DIGITAL INSPECTION REQUESTED REQUEST CAPABILITIES. THE EXISTING FEE STRUCTURE INCLUDES A MODEST TECHNOLOGY SURCHARGE OF 2.6%, WHICH WILL NEED ADJUSTMENT TO SUPPORT FULL MODERNIZATION OF SERVICES, DELIVERY SYSTEMS, INSPECTION AND ENFORCEMENT COSTS. THE CITY IMPOSES FEES, FIXED REINSPECTION FEES AND ADDITIONAL PENALTIES FOR WORK WITHOUT PERMITS. HOWEVER, FEE SCHEDULES SHOULD BE EVALUATED TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT WITH STATE STATUTE 5 53 0.8, WHICH ALLOWS FOR SIGNIFICANT PENALTIES WHEN VIOLATIONS PERSIST THROUGH MULTIPLE RE-INSPECTIONS. COMPLIANCE AND TRANSPARENCY, THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO PREPARE AND POST A BUILDING PERMIT AND INSPECTION UTILIZATION REPORT, AS WELL AS A LIST OF ALL OF OUR FEES. DATA-DRIVEN REQUIREMENTS SHOULD BE COMPLETED AS A PREREQUISITE TO ANY FINAL ADJUSTMENTS OF THE FEE SCHEDULE. INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENTS. ALTHOUGH SECTION 1312 ALLOWS FOR ANNUAL ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON THE MUNICIPAL CODE IN, I'M SORRY, MUNI MUNICIPAL CODE INDEX THERE APPEARS THAT THIS HAS NOT BEEN DONE CONSISTENTLY OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW WHETHER THAT INDEX IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE AS I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND OTHER INDEXES, SUCH AS THE ENGINEERING NEWS RECORD, BUILDING CODE INDEX, WHICH IS ONE OF THE INDEXES THAT MIAMI USES IN ORDER TO ADJUST THEIR PERMITTING FEES. [03:35:03] SO AT THIS TIME, MY RECOMMENDATION FOR STAFF IS TO, UM, ALLOW MYSELF AND THE FINANCE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THE BUILDING FEES CODE, ENFORCEMENT FEES, INCLUDING A PREPARATION OF A UTILIZATION REPORT AS REQUIRED UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE, BENCHMARKING THE FEES AGAINST, UH, COMPARABLE JURISDICTIONS DEVELOPMENT OF A REVISED SCHEDULE THAT ENSURES COST RECOVERY REFLECTS CURRENT OPERATIONAL NEEDS AND SUPPORT FUTURE INVESTMENT IN TECHNOLOGY AND TRAINING, AND AS WELL AS A LEGAL REVIEW TO ENSURE CONFORMITY TO ALL OF THE STATE STATUTES ON ALLOWABLE FEES. SO AT THIS TIME, I'M JUST ASKING THIS COMMISSION FOR A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE DIRECTION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE STAFF TO GO ON THIS MATTER. PLEASE . MS. TANJA, WHAT TIMEFRAME ARE YOU LOOKING FOR NOW? I'M LOOKING TO, UH, COMPLETE THIS REVIEW WITHIN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE MONTHS SO THAT WE COULD BE, UM, IN COMPLIANCE BY OUR NEW FISCAL YEAR OF, UM, OCTOBER 1ST. OKAY. THANK YOU, ? YES. I SEND YOU THE INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVI THE INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDED TO US, UM, QUITE EXTENSIVE, AND YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE LOOKING TO REVIEW ALL THE INFORMATION AND BRING THESE TWO, THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS UP TO WHATEVER STANDARD IT NEEDS TO BE AT THIS TIME. YES. THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. YES. YES. THAT IS THE GOAL. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I'M, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH IT, UM, FROM 2007 TO 2017. WE'RE IN 2025, JUST LIKE HOW WE UPDATED OUR NEW OPEN GOV. YOU KNOW, ALL THIS IS FALLING IN LINE. SO I, I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS. COMMISSIONER HARRISON? YES, UH, MADAM MAYOR, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH IT AS WELL. THANK YOU, MADAM COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. I'M IN AGREEMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. TANJA. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THANK [L.  DISCUSSION REGARDING TWO LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAMS AND AN AMNESTY PROGRAM TO ASSIST WITH RESOLVING THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS] YOU MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE L DISCUSSION REGARDING TWO LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAMS AND AN AMNESTY PROGRAM TO ASSIST WITH RESOLVING THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS. AND THIS ITEM WILL BE PRESENTED BY MS. TANJA MCCOY THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SANDRA THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. SO THIS ITEM IS AN AGENDA ITEM PRESENTATION FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE TWO CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAMS AND A COMPLIMENTARY AMNESTY PROGRAM. THE AMNESTY PROGRAM WILL PROVIDE A TEMPORARY OPPORTUNITY FOR ELIGIBLE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SETTLE CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS AT A SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED RATE CONTINGENT UPON MEETING COMPLIANCES AND BENCHMARKS. THE LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAM, HOWEVER, WOULD ESTABLISH TWO FORMAL PROCESSES, REVIEWING AND ADJUSTING HIGH VALUE LIENS BASED ON COMPLIANCE STATUS, PROPERTY CONDITION, AND OTHER QUALIFYING FACTORS. THIS LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAM WILL BE A CONTINUOUS PROGRAM ONCE THE AMNESTY PROGRAM IS NO MORE, NO LONGER IN PLACE. THIS PROGRAM WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE TWO TIERS, WHICH WOULD BE HOMESTEAD PROGRAM AND A NON-HOMESTEAD PROGRAM. THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION IS TO EXPLORE POLICY OPTIONS AND PROCEDURES, FRAMEWORKS THAT WILL PROVIDE EQUITABLE RELIEF TO PROPERTY OWNERS FACING LIENS. INCENT, INCENTIVIZE COMPLIANCE WITH MISS MUNICIPAL CODES, EXPEDITE THE SETTLEMENT OF DELINQUENT ACCOUNTS AND MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY AND DETERRENT EFFECT OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. SO AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS AN AMNESTY PROGRAM OKAY. AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. SO THROUGH MY REVIEW, I REVIEWED SEVERAL COMMUNITIES, UH, IN OUR CLOSE PROXIMITY AND AMNESTY PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAD IN PLACE. AND THROUGH THOSE PROGRAMS, UH, I CAME UP WITH SOME GUIDELINES THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE CITY OF DALE LAKES. DO YOU MADAM MAYOR? EXCUSE ME. MAD COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS, I THINK WITH THE PROGRAM, IT SHOULD BE A APPLIED TO ONLY IF YOU ARE OWNER LIVES IN THE PROPERTY SHOULD NOT GO TO YOU RENTING IT. YOU LIVE SOMEWHERE IN TIMBUKTU, CALIFORNIA, [03:40:01] AND YOU ARE RENTING IT HERE. AND SO YOU HAVE NO, NO WAY OF PAYING ATTENTION TO YOUR PROPERTY. AND THEN WE PUT LIENS AND NOW WE WANNA REWARD THAT. NO. SO THAT PERSON NEED TO LIVE THAT. MY, WHAT I WANT TO SEE IS THAT IT SAYS THAT PERSON NEED TO LIVE IN THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO PARTAKE OF THIS PROGRAM. MADAM VICE MAYOR, DID YOU HAVE A RESPONSE? I'M SORRY. THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE THE HOMESTEAD. UM, OWNERSHIP WHEN YOU LIVE IN YOUR PROPERTY IS THE ONLY, HOW YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH IT AS, UH, ESTABLISH IT AS A HOMESTEAD PROPERTY. SO THOSE WOULD BE THE, UM, FIRST TIER OF THE AMNESTY PROGRAM THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT. OKAY. YES, MS. TAN, MADAM VICE MAYOR, MADAM MAYOR, MS. TANJA, IF THE PERSON LIVES IN THE HOUSE, AS YOU SAID, THE HOMESTEAD, AND I'M SURE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THEIR OWN PROPERTY, AND IF THEY HAVE MONEY, GENERALLY THEY WILL DO A GOOD JOB. MANY TIMES IF PROPERTIES FALL APART BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH FUNDS, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I WOULD NEVER, EVER, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I JUST HAVE ONE VOTE TO REWARD PEOPLE FOR BAD BEHAVIOR. THAT THEY RENT THE PROPERTY OUT, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE TENANTS THAT LIVE THERE. AND OF COURSE, THEY REALLY DO NOT CARE ABOUT MY COMMUNITY. SO FOR ME, I MEAN, WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF AN AMNESTY FOR HOMESTEADERS, ANY OTHER PERSON, I WILL NOT REWARD THEM, BUT BAD. I WOULD BE REWARDING THEM FOR BAD BEHAVIOR. BRING DOWN MY, THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IN LOWER THE, THEIR LAKES CAN BECOME BLIGHTED. AND THEN AFTER THAT, PEOPLE START MOVING OUT SELLING. AND THEN NINE OUTTA 10 TIMES THOSE PEOPLE COME BACK AS INVESTORS. AND THEN THE NEXT STEP IS GENTRIFICATION, THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN GET BACK IN. SO I'M NOT GOING TO REWARD ANYONE FOR BAD BEHAVIOR THAT YOU DON'T REALLY RESPECT MY SPACE, LORD DAY LAKES. AND THEN CITY HALL IS GOING TO REWARD YOU. NOT GOING AND NOT FOR THAT. THANK YOU. BEFORE MS. TANJA. CONTINUE. CONTINUE MS. TANJA. SO, UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WITH AN AMNESTY PROGRAM, UM, WOULD BE HOW LONG OF A PERIOD WILL WE BE LOOKING AT HOLDING, HOLDING THAT PROGRAM? SHOULD WE DO IT FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS, ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS? I'VE SEEN ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES NEARBY US. MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, A TIMELINE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT SHORTER THAN THAT, MAYBE, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THE GOAL IS COMPLIANCE AND IF THEY GET NOTIFIED AND THEY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, LIKE 90 DAYS TO GET WITHIN COMPLIANCE, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THAT FIRST BEFORE THEY TRY TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. 'CAUSE THEY KNOW THAT'S THE FIRST THING THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO. UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF AN AMNESTY PROGRAM OF BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, SIMPLY BECAUSE, UH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY OUT THERE FOR US TO RECUPERATE AND THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING TO US. SO WE'RE NOT TOO FAMILIAR WITH WHAT CASELOAD WE CAN DO FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA FIGHT IT, WHICH IS OKAY. UH, BUT I THINK THE MAIN GOAL IS COMPLIANCE. AND IF THEY DON'T MEET THAT STANDARD WITHIN 90 DAYS, THEY GO RIGHT BACK TO OWNING US MONEY. AND THEN WE STILL DO OUR JOB THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. BUT I'M, I'M ESTIMATING PROBABLY MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO OWN LIENS ARE GOING TO WANT TO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM. BUT THE TIGHTER WE MAKE THE TIMELINE, THE MORE FASTER WE'RE GONNA GET IN COMPLIANCE. CONTINUE MS. TANYA ALSO, ONCE WE, UH, DETERMINE AND ESTABLISH A TIMELINE, WHICH, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS CONSIDERING IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE ALSO IS THAT, UH, ONE OF THE KEY FEATURES OF THE PROGRAM WOULD MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE OF ALL, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS ON YOUR PROPERTY BEFORE YOU WOULD BE ELIGIBLE. SO SOME PEOPLE MAY WANT TO HAVE LIKE A PRE-INSPECTION. SO WE NEED TO GIVE TIME TO DO THOSE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE EVEN GOING TO QUALIFY BEFORE THEY APPLY FOR THE AMNESTY PROGRAM. DO YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? I THINK THE SIX MONTHS IS GOOD. I THINK, [03:45:01] 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO GIVE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S MONEY. PEOPLE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH. SO I THINK SIX MONTHS WOULD BE GOOD. THANK YOU. SORRY, TANJA, YOU STILL HAVE MORE? UH, I, I WOULD STILL WANNA DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE UNTIL SURE. YOU GUYS GO AHEAD. COME UP WITH A CUS MS. SANDRA, GO AHEAD. YES. UM, SO YEAH, THE SIX MONTHS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD TIMEFRAME. THE NEXT THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WITH THE AMNESTY PROGRAM THAT I ALSO NOTICED WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES WAS THAT THEY, UM, IT WAS FOR OLD LIEN. SO IF YOU JUST COMPLETED A CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATION, YOU WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM. SO WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS 18 MONTHS FOR, UM, A HOMESTEAD PERSON, THEY HAVE TO BE, HAVE STAYED IN COMPLIANCE FOR 18 MONTHS BEFORE THEY WOULD BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM. THAT WOULD SHOW A TRACK RECORD OF NOT ONLY BEING IN COMPLIANCE, BUT REMAINING IN COMPLIANCE. SO MS. TAN, YOU'RE SAYING IF, IF I QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM AND I CURE WHATEVER LIENS THAT I HAVE, I WOULD HAVE TO WAIT 18 MONTHS BEFORE I CAN PARTICIPATE AND BE AMORTIZED, IF YOU WILL. YES. SO I WOULD SAY FOR OTHER JURISDICTIONS IT WOULD SOUND SOMETHING LIKE WE START THE PROGRAM, MEANING THAT YOU HAVE BEEN IN COMPLIANCE AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2024. SO IF YOU WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE LAST MONTH, YOU WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO WALK IN AND BECOME, YOU KNOW, BE MAGNETIZED FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST CURED BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF YOU STAYING IN COMPLIANCE. OKAY. CONTINUE MS. TANYA. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE SETTLEMENT OFFER THE CITY WOULD SET, WOULD ACCEPT, WOULD BE A FLAT PERCENTAGE OF 15% OF THE TOTAL LIEN AMOUNT FOR ALL HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES. MAD MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON, SANDRA, THAT THAT'S ONLY FOR RESIDENTS. WHY, UH, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE COMMERCIAL. AND IF SO, WHY, WHY NOT? SANDRA, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. I, I'M FOLLOWING THE COMMISSION'S LEADING THIS WAY BECAUSE SO FAR I'VE HEARD THAT THEY'RE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, ARE NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH COMMERCIAL. THEY'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE OWN HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES. IF YOU WANNA DISCUSS THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, THEN YOU GUYS CAN GIMME SOME GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER AMON. THANK YOU. UM, I THINK, UH, THE AMNESTY PROGRAM SHOULD BE FOR EVERYONE, UM, WHO CAN APPLY AND QUALIFY. IT COULD PROBABLY BE A DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. SO PLACES THAT ARE ALIGHTED BECAUSE OF BEING OUT OF VIOLATION, WHETHER RESIDENTIAL OR NOT. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD JUST DO FOR SOME AND NOT FOR ALL. WE JUST HEARD FROM PATRICK GREEN ABOUT OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, HOW IMPORTANT IT'S, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES TO ALSO COME IN. COMPLIANCE AS WELL. INCENTIVIZE TO COME INTO THE COMPLIANCE, NOT JUST FOR OUR RESIDENTS. GOOD. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. I, I, I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR OF THAT TOO. BRINGING THE COMMERCIAL, UM, SPACE UNDER THIS WITH GUIDELINES AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW HOW, PERCENTAGE WISE I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE. WELL, HOLD ON A MOMENT. HOLD ON A MOMENT, THOMAS. YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE THE SAME PERCENTAGE WISE IN TERMS OF SETTLEMENT, BUT, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT'S OUTTA COMPLIANCE RIGHT NOW. COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. OKAY. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. I'M NOT REALLY FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACE 'CAUSE I THINK THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER. UM, BUT IF WE DO THAT FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACE, SHORTEN THE TIMELINE, MAYBE THREE MONTHS AND NOT, YOU KNOW, MORE TIGHTER, MORE PERCENTAGE. MAYBE 25%. SO THE, THE PER THE, THE, IT WILL BE MUCH TIGHTER THAN THE HOMESTEAD THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, IF YOU WERE TO DO THE COMMERCIAL, WHAT ABOUT A, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE, HAVE BEEN IN COMPLIANCE FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS BEFORE THEY COULD APPLY MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS? NO, I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER. YEAH. UM, I LIKE THE DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING. I I THINK THE [03:50:01] POINT OF INCENTIVIZING IS NOT TO MAKE IT A ROSY, THORNY ROAD FOR THEM. SO WE HAVE TO STILL MAKE IT REASONABLE. I UNDERSTAND. WE WANNA HOLD 'EM ACCOUNTABLE AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, ONCE THIS IS DONE MOVING FORWARD, THIS WILL BE THE NEW EPISODE OF COPS FOR, FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. TRUST ME. SO I'M I'M THERE WITH YOU. BUT, UH, WE, I I WANT TO SEE US WORK WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. I THINK THREE YEARS IS, IS A LITTLE, VERY, VERY LONG. I THINK I'M, I'M, I'M ALL IN AGREEANCE WITH HOLDING THEM TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD. UH, BUT WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE THEM AS WELL TO, TO, TO BUY INTO WHAT WE'RE OFFERING HERE THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. IS THAT TRUE? ? YES. I THINK THREE YEARS. I, THEY SHOULD EVEN GET MORE. I MEAN, THEY HAVE THE MONEY. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN BUSINESS FOR DECADES, SOME OF THEM, UH, ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE STREET. HE HAS ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT PLAZAS. THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO. SO YEAH, IT SHOULD BE VERY TIGHT. 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE VERY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF MONEY. SO MAKE IT VERY TIGHT. THIS, UH, TANGER FOR THE THREE YEAR REQUIREMENT TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM AS IT RELATES TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT PERIOD OF TIME. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK IT SHOULD BE LONGER. MM-HMM . BUT, UM, THREE YEARS WOULD BE REASONABLE. OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CERTAIN AREAS FOR SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. IT IS NOT AS IF THEY DID NOT KNOW . WE, WE, WE FIND THEM, THEY'VE COME TO COURT, THEY PROMISE TO DO THIS, THEY PROMISE TO DO THAT, AND THEY HAVE NOT DONE SO. SO I WOULD COMPROMISE FOR THE THREE YEARS, BUT FRANKLY I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE. MM-HMM . CONTINUE. MS. TANYA TANJA. I'M SORRY. . I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, WHAT TYPE OF PERCENTAGE WOULD, UH, THE COMMISSION BE IN AGREEMENT FOR A BUSINESS AMNESTY? 50%. 50%. MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. UM, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT 15 FOR RESIDENTIAL, I THINK A GOOD PLACE TO START IS AROUND 2020 5%. COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. UM, NO, I SAY I GUESS BUT 50%, BUT 25 IS REASONABLE, I THINK. BUT I THINK FOR ME, IF I'M GOING FOR THE JUGGLER, I'M GOING FOR 50. I I THINK 50% IS A LITTLE BIT EXCESSIVE, I THINK. OKAY. UM, IF WE'RE CONSIDERING 15% FOR RESIDENTIAL, THEN PERHAPS DOUBLE OF 30% TO 30% THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE SEEN NUMBERS OF 30%. I DO RECOMMEND 35% AS A GOOD NUMBER TO REST ON. ALL RIGHT. I LIKE THAT. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR HARRISON. UM, WHEN PEOPLE USUALLY SETTLE THESE CASES, IF YOU TAKE INTO COURT, HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE WISE OF THE OVERALL LIEN DO THEY USUALLY SETTLE ON THROUGH YOUR MADAM MAYOR? I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH AND GET SOME DATA RELATED TO THAT. UM, QUESTION MADAM MAYOR. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, UH, MAYBE OUR CITY ATTORNEY COULD HELP. UM, ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. UM, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE, UM, A COUPLE OF, UH, PROPERTIES THAT, UM, AT LEAST I'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH. ONE IS THE BOWLING ALLEY PROPERTY. UM, THEY OWED US APPROXIMATELY $200,000. MAKE A DIFFERENCE. WE LITIGATED, THEY FILED AN APPEAL. WE WON ON APPEAL. THEY PAID US $225,000. OREO PLAZA, UM, IS, FIRST OF ALL, THEY WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE AT THE TIME OF THE LAWSUIT. UM, THERE WERE MULTIPLE LIENS THAT WERE OUTSTANDING. UH, SOME WERE AGAIN, NOT CORRECTED, OTHERS WERE CORRECTED, BUT THERE WERE MULTIPLE LIENS ON THAT. UM, I BELIEVE AT COURT, AND I'M NOT 100% POSITIVE ON THIS, IT'S BEEN THAT LONG, BUT, UM, I KNOW WE HAD A SHAPE MEETING WITH THIS COMMISSION. I THINK I REPRESENTED SOMEWHERE AROUND FOUR, FOUR, 5 MILLION. UM, AND WE SETTLED FOR $1.3 MILLION, [03:55:02] ROUGHLY MS. SANDRA TENURE. UM, YOU GO, YOU FINISH. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE MATTERS NOW THAT, UH, ARE ARE NOT QUITE SETTLED, BUT, UM, THE SUCCESS LEVELS ON THE OUTSTANDING MATTERS. ONE RELATING TO DUPONT, THE OTHER ONE RELATING TO, UH, THE ALLEN CASE. UM, AGAIN, I CAN'T GIVE YOU NUMBERS ON THOSE, BUT I AM SAYING, UM, WE ARE FEELING VERY CONFIDENT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SEEKING ON, ON ON THOSE NUMBERS. MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. THANK YOU. SO IF WE, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY AROUND THAT 30% FROM IF IT WAS TO SETTLE 5 MILLION TO 1.5, WE WOULD BE WALKING AWAY 30% IF WE TOOK THEM TO COURT. SO IN THEIR MINDS, LIKE I'M TRYING TO SEE LIKE HOW DO WE CREATE THIS AS AN INCENTIVE TO MAKE THEM WANT TO BUY INTO THIS? IT'S A PROGRAM. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE SAY HIGHER THAN 35, BUT YOU SAYING 35, I STILL THINK THAT THAT THAT DOESN'T GARNER ENOUGH ENOUGH OF AN INCENTIVE, UH, FOR PEOPLE THAT WANNA BUY INTO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THAT'S WHY I WOULD SAY BETWEEN 20 TO 25%. I THINK THAT'S MORE OF A, THAT I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO PARTNERSHIP. I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO, WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING FOR YOU NOW, BUT IF YOU CAN'T COME AND COME, THAT'S WHY I SAID 90 DAYS, I'M GONNA BE EXTREME ON THAT. I WOULD'VE SAID 30 OR SOMETHING. 'CAUSE IF THEY'LL FIND A WAY, BECAUSE IF NOT, WE GO RIGHT BACK TO PLAN A AND WE TAKE THEM TO COURT. LET OUR ATTORNEY DO HIS GREAT JOB. SO I I JUST TO THE COMMISSION I ASKED SO WE CAN GIVE MORE PERSPECTIVE IF WE ALREADY WOULD BE WALKING AWAY WITH 30% IF WE DID TAKE THEM TO COURT, WHY NOT? WE TRY TO CREATE SOMETHING BETWEEN 20 TO 25% IN THE AMNESTY PORTION FOR COMMERCIAL. YOU HAD ANOTHER CAVEAT. ATTORNEY CALLAWAY, UH, YES. MAD MAYOR AND, AND COMMISSIONERS TOO. UH, COMMISSIONER HARRISON'S, UM, UH, DISCUSSION POINT. I I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT AGAIN, THE ORLE PLAZA PROPERTY WAS A BIT DIFFERENT. UH, FIRST OF ALL, IT WAS ONE OF THE MORE SIGNIFICANT MATTERS THAT WE PRESSED. UM, WE'VE ALSO CORRECTED SOME OF THE PROCESSES THAT, UM, GAVE US A LITTLE BIT OF CONSTERNATION IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR EX EXPOSURE WAS IN, IN, IN, IN THAT CASE. UH, SO GOING FORWARD AND REALLY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER MATTERS THAT WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE A MORE, UM, STREAMLINED CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. AND OUR PROCEDURAL, UH, MATTERS ARE, UM, MORE IN LINE NOW THAN THEY WERE GOING BACK TO THE UM, OR ORIAL PLAZA CASE. AND I SAID ALL THAT TO SAY THAT OUR LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE GOING FORWARD ON THESE CASES YEAH, WOULD BE GREATER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. SANDRA THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. UM, I THINK THAT THE 35% MARK GOOD AND IT DOES INCENTIVIZE BECAUSE YOU WALK IN THE DOOR AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COURT TO FIND OUT THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OR 50% THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN SATISFY THIS LIEN. IF YOU HAVE SOME, UM, ACTIVITIES THAT YOU WANNA DO WITH YOUR PROPERTY IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, YOU CAN COME IN AND SATISFY YOUR LIEN. SO I THINK IT STILL WOULD BE AN INCENTIVE FOR, UM, BUSINESS OWNERS TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR, THAT LIEN. AND AGAIN, I HAVE SEEN THAT THOSE NUMBERS IN NEARBY JURISDICTIONS USING THOSE TYPE OF NUMBERS CONTINUE MS. TANJA. SO THE NEXT THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE REQUIREMENTS. SO AGAIN, UM, DEFINITELY WE HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES, WHICH WILL REQUIRE A PRE-INSPECTION AND A FINAL INSPECTION. UH, PROPERTY OWNER VERIFICATION, THE AMNESTY APPLICATION, WHICH WOULD, UM, I'M RECOMMENDING $500 AS AN APPLICATION FEE AND UP TO $1,500 DEPENDING ON, UM, HOW LARGE THE CASE IS BECAUSE, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE A PART OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. AMEN. VICE MAYOR, MADAM MS. TANJA 504 HOMESTEADERS OR FOR COMMERCIAL HOMESTEAD. I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGH FOR HOMESTEADERS, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE ON FIXED INCOME. YES. AND SOME OF THEM THE INCOME, THERE IS NO INCOME. YES, I, COMMISSIONER THOMAS, THAT'S ONE OF, I WENT OUT, MIC WENT OUT. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS. WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DOES COMMISSION WANT SEE IN TERMS OF APPLICATION FEE AND ALSO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A COST RECOVERY FOR THE [04:00:01] ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS PROGRAM, WHICH AGAIN, I THINK LIES SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THAT 500 1500 AND VICE MAYOR TO YOU, MS. TANJA, WHAT ABOUT MAYBE THE APPLICATION FEE? IF IT'S 500, THEN IT WOULD BE TAKEN OFF THE, FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF THE LIENS THAT ARE OWED THAT OKI YOU PAY $500 NOW AND LET'S SAY IT IS $3,500 IS OWE, THAT $500 WOULD BE SUB SUBTRACTED COMM COMMISSIONER, GO AHEAD. MAD MAYOR. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REASONABLE, UM, WAY TO MANAGE IT. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DURING THE PROCESS, IF 80 DECIDE TO BOW OUT, DONE ALL OF THIS WORK, INSPECTION AND REVIEW OF THE PROPERTY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WE'LL COVERING THAT COST AS WELL. BUILDING PERMIT I FEES THE PROPERTY COMMISSIONER MAX. OKAY. SO THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. MY RECOMMENDATION IS A $500 AND FOR THE, FOR BUSINESS, UH, PROP, UH, 1500 MADAM MAYOR HARRISON, YOU WANTED TO, SORRY, GO AHEAD. SORRY. ALRIGHT, WELL, UH, UH, MS. TANJA, MY RECOMMENDATION WAS GONNA BE, UM, NO APPLICATION FEE FOR RESIDENTS. UM, BUT ACTUALLY I, I LIKE WHAT THE VICE MAYOR MENTIONED ABOUT JUST BUILD THAT WITHIN WHAT THEY'LL BE PAYING BACK TO US. COMMERCIAL PROPERTY I THINK SHOULD PAY SOMETHING. I THINK THEY SHOULD PAY THE 500, BETWEEN 500 TO 1,015 HUNDRED. AND AGAIN, UM, I I THINK THAT'S GONNA HELP US RECUPERATE OUR FEES. BUT TO, FOR ME TO EVEN KNOW IF, IF THAT WOULD HELP. UM, DO WE HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER OF HOW MANY LIENS THERE ARE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW? I WAS TRYING TO MADAM MAYOR, NO, WE DO NOT. MADAM MAYOR, MS. HARRISON, MIC. I'M SORRY FOR THE RECORD. I KNOW SHE'S NOT. YOU SAID NO, YOU MADAM MAYOR. NO, THEY ARE GETTING A NEW MIC. WE DO NOT. OKAY. UH, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S KIND OF CONCERNING. OR IF THEY SHOULD PLAYING BASKETBALL, YOU KIND OF SHOOTING IN THE DARK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE. BUT, UM, WHO, YOU MET A MAYOR. SO I WANTED TO KNOW, I KNOW LAST TIME I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION AND I UNDERSTAND. WE DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIME. I KNOW I SAT ONE ONE-ON-ONE. YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T KNOW AND NOW WE DON'T KNOW HOW. BY WHEN DO YOU, BY WHEN DO YOU THINK WE WOULD KNOW? DO WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH I WOULD THINK WE DO NEED TO KNOW IN ORDER TO DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY EVENTUALLY I'VE ACTUALLY LIKE WHAT'S ACTUALLY OUT THERE. BUT HOW LONG DO YOU THINK BEFORE WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE SHOULD KNOW EVERYBODY'S OUT THERE. MS. TANJA, HOLD UP A MOMENT. MS. TANJA, I THINK YOU HAVE A MIC COMING. IS IT ON? HE JUST LEFT. HE'S A TENT GUY. IT'S WORSE. I THINK YOU GOTTA CALL HIM BACK. PARDON? YOU GOTTA CALL . THANK YOU MS. F GREEN. LIGHT. LIGHT. I SEE A GREEN LIGHT. OKAY, THERE IT IS. THROUGH YOUR MADAM MAYOR. YES, I THINK THAT, UM, IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE 12 MONTHS TO GO THROUGH ALL OF OUR RECORDS AND IDENTIFY ALL OF THE LIENS THAT'S OUT THERE. SO WE COULD RUN A AMNESTY PROGRAM FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME FOR PEOPLE WHO ALREADY KNOW AND THEN MAYBE COME BACK LATER OR WE COULD GIVE, THAT'S WHY I TALKED ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME I'VE SEEN IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, EVEN NEARBY JURISDICTIONS WHERE THEY DID IT FOR UP TO TWO YEARS. BUT I'M CONFIDENT WITH MY STAFF AND WITH MY NEW SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE LIENS WITHIN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS AND NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNERS APPROPRIATELY. IT'S TIME TO IN BETWEEN TIME, HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THE 12 MONTH PERIOD IS DECIDED UPON, WOULD LIENS STILL BE ACCRUING ON THOSE WHO HAVE NOT COME TO COMPLIANCE THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR? YES. AND THOSE, UH, APPLICANTS WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE THIS, YOU HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE FOR 18 MONTHS FOR THE HOMESTEAD IN THREE YEARS FOR THE NON-HOMESTEAD. SO THOSE APPLICANTS WHOSE LIENS HAVE NOT BEEN BROUGHT INTO [04:05:01] COMPLIANCE WOULD NOT EVEN BE APPLICABLE, ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM. MADAM, MADAM VICE? MAAM MS. TANJA, YOU ARE JUST, I, I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO MISCODE YOU. YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS FOR YOU TO KNOW HOW MANY LIEN HOLDERS ARE IN THE CITY THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. ACTUALLY I WAS SAYING THAT I'VE SEEN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY DID IT FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD. I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT I CAN GET IT DONE IN 12 MONTHS OF ACTUALLY IDENTIFYING ALL LIEN HOLDERS WITHIN THE CITY AND SENDING THEM NOTIFICATION THAT THEY HAVE A LIEN BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE A LIEN FROM FIVE OR 10 YEARS AGO MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT THAT LEAD IS OUT THERE. VICE MAYOR MS. TANJA, 12 MONTHS IS STILL A LONG TIME. I THOUGHT THE SOFTWARE THAT WE ARE, THAT YOU ARE GETTING WOULD IMPROVE THE TIME. 12 MONTHS IS STILL A LONG TIME NOT TO KNOW HOW MANY LIEN HOLDER HOLDERS ARE IN THE CITY THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, ONE OF THE, UM, DEFICIENCIES WITH THE SOFTWARE IS THAT CURRENTLY ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTS ARE ON IN A PAPER FORMAT. SO IT TAKES HOURS AND HOURS OF RESEARCH TO IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE LIENS ARE. OKAY, MR. THOMAS? NO. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. CONTINUE MS. SANJA. SO THE NEXT UM, THING I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER IS THE PAYMENT TIMEFRAME. SO I HAVE A 30 DAY WINDOW FOR PAYMENT ONCE IT IS APPROVED OR SHOULD WE SHORTEN THAT TIME? RIGHT? 30 DAYS IS FINE. NO, 30 DAYS IS GOOD. YEAH, I LIKE 30 DAYS. 30 DAYS FOR THEM TO BRING IN ALL THE MONEY. YES. UNDER THE AMNESTY PROGRAM. THAT IS SHORT. YES. MAYBE MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO GET A LOAN TAKE OFFICE OR ON WHAT WAS IT ON THE PROPERTY? MADAM VICE MAYOR? NO, I'M STILL TALKING TO HER. MADAM MAYOR. YEAH, YEAH, SORRY BUT JERRY STILL, I'M STILL TALKING TO THE SAME PERSON. MADAM, MADAM MAYOR, 30 DAYS SEEM TO BE A SHORT WINDOW TO GET ALL THE MONIES IN OR CAN THEY PAY AN INSTALLMENT THROUGH YOU? MADAM MAYOR, MS. SANDRA, I HAVE REVIEWED AN INSTALLMENT PROGRAM, BUT THAT WOULD BE FOR THE NOT AMNESTY PROGRAM PEOPLE AGAIN, I THINK FOR THE AMNESTY PROGRAM, IN MY REVIEW OF THIS PROCESS, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY WHEN THEY COME IN. THEY'RE GONNA PAY EITHER THE 15%, THE 30%, OR THE 35%, WHATEVER YOU GUYS DETERMINE. THEY KNOW IF THEY HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PAY IT ON THE 30 DAY, WITHIN THE 30 DAY WINDOW. MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MADAM MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR. I STILL BELIEVE 30 DAYS IS A SHORT TIME, BUT OKAY. BUT I OWE MAYBE 5,500 OR 7,500 A SHORT WINDOW. COMMISSIONER HARRISON, GET THAT TYPE OF MONEY. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. A QUICK QUESTION. I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT IT. IT IS 30 DAYS TO GET ALL OF THE MONEY, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE BEFORE THEY EVEN CAN DO THAT. SO THAT MEANS WE'RE GIVING THEM 30 DAYS TO GET IN COMPLIANCE AS WELL. BY DEFAULT THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. NO, WE'RE NOT. BECAUSE AGAIN, IF THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE, THEY DON'T QUALIFY. THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM ON THE PRE-INSPECTION IS THAT YOU'RE NOT PAYING YOUR MONEY TO COME IN. AND I TELL YOU, YOU DON'T QUALIFY BECAUSE WHEN WE GO OUT TO INSPECT YOUR PROPERTY, WE FIND THAT YOU HAVE OTHER ISSUES GOING ON. SO IF YOU'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE, YOU WOULDN'T QUALIFY. BUT IF YOU SAY, OKAY, I WANNA DO THE PROGRAM, I'M GONNA PAY MY $500. I DON'T EVEN WANNA WASTE YOUR TIME IF YOUR PROPERTY'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE. SO MADAM MAYOR, SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, THEY HAVE TO GET IN COMPLIANCE AND FROM THAT POINT TO PAY THE SAID MONEY, THEY'LL HAVE 30 DAYS IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDER I'M UNDERSTANDING THE, THE TIMELINE. SO THE COMPLIANCE IS 18 MONTHS PRIOR TO, I'M SORRY, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, 18 MONTHS PRIOR TO APPLICATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE BEEN IN COMPLIANCE. SO IF I CHECK YOUR PROPERTY AND IT SAYS YOU HAVE A LIEN, I'M, THE FIRST THING I'M GONNA IDENTIFY IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU MEET THE 18 MONTH REQUIREMENT. IF THAT, IF THAT ANSWER IS YES, THE NEXT STEP IS TO COME OUT AND LOOK AT YOUR PROPERTY AND SEE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE NEW CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS OR ISSUES GOING ON AT YOUR PROPERTY. IF THAT ANSWER IS ALSO YES, THIS PROPERTY IS FREE AND CLEAR, THEY HAVE NO CODE [04:10:01] COMPLIANCE ISSUES, THE NEXT STEP IS TO MOVE FORWARD THE APPLICATION AND GO IN AND PAY THE 15% OR THE 30% OR WHATEVER NUMBER YOU GUYS DETERMINE. SO THE TIMELINE IS A PROPERTY GETS NOTICED. WE HAVE A PROGRAM, BUT BEFORE WE ANNOUNCED THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOW THAT 18 MONTHS BEFORE THAT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN COMPLIANCE BEFORE THEY WERE NOTICED OF THE PROGRAM. WHEN THEY COME IN TO ME, YEAH, I WOULD REVIEW THEIR PROPERTY AND SAY, THESE PROPERTIES RIGHT HERE, YOUR PROPERTY IS ELIGIBLE. 'CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN, WE HAVEN'T BEEN TO YOUR PROPERTY FOR A CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION WITHIN 18 MONTHS. I HAVEN'T HAD CODE ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE TO HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION AT YOUR PROPERTY IN OVER 18 MONTHS. YEAH, MADAM MAYOR, I DON'T LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, WE WANT TO GET, WE WANT TO TELL THEM, WE KNOW YOU'RE OUTTA COMPLIANCE, GET IN COMPLIANCE FIRST. BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT EVEN IF YOU DO THAT, IF, IF WE HAVE A RECORD OF YOU HAVING ANY IN COMPLIANCE WITHIN THE PAST 18 MONTHS, YOU STILL WON'T QUALIFY. I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THAT OUT BECAUSE WE'LL BE CUTTING OUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO COULD POSSIBLY QUALIFY. I THINK WE CAN LET PEOPLE KNOW YOU'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE. THIS IS THE PROGRAM WE HAVE. AND FROM THAT POINT OF COMING TO YOU, OR WE LET THEM KNOW, THEY PROBABLY HAVE SOME TIME AFTER THAT TO GET IN COMPLIANCE. BUT I THINK IT'S UNFAIR IF WE BACKTRACK IT AND SAY, OH, BUT WITHIN THE PAST 18 MONTHS WE HAVE THIS, THEY'RE JUST HEARING ABOUT THE PROGRAM TO GET IN COMPLIANCE. PEOPLE HAVE ARGUMENTS THAT THEY FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, THAT THEY CAN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT. BUT NOW THEY WANNA BUY INTO THIS PROGRAM AND NOW THEY WON'T QUALIFY BECAUSE IN THE PAST 18 MONTHS, A YEAR AND A HALF, YOU SAW SOMETHING. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. I THINK THAT'S GONNA CUT OUT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I'M TRYING TO GET US TO BE ON BOARD WITH IN TERMS OF CLEANING UP THE COMMUNITY WITH THIS AMNESTY THING. BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY LIENS WE HAVE OUT THERE. IF WE DO THIS AND WE DO THAT AND CUT THOSE PEOPLE OUT, WE'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE CHASING THESE PEOPLE FOR MONEY. I'M TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THAT. I'M TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM HAVING PEOPLE AT THE END OF IT. STILL IN THAT SAME PREDICAMENT. I WANT PEOPLE TO QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE NOT QUALIFY FOR IT. SO LET'S ELIMINATE THAT AS A BARRIER. SO ONCE THEY'RE NOTIFIED, THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO GET IN COMPLIANCE. IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, YOU'RE SAYING FROM ONCE THEY COME TO YOU TO TRY TO GET INTO THE PROGRAM, IF YOU GO BACK 18 MONTHS AND THEY HAVE SOMETHING, THEY WON'T QUALIFY. CORRECT. YEAH. NO, I DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA. I THINK THAT'S CUTTING PEOPLE OUT THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. IT ALSO SHOWS A PATTERN OF BEING IN COMPLIANCE. IT ALSO SHOWS THAT, UM, IF YOU HAD SOMETHING 18 MONTHS AGO AND THEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING SIX MONTHS AGO, AND THEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THREE MONTHS AGO, THAT YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BE A REPEAT OFFENDER. SO THIS IS WHY I'M SURE OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE LOOKED AT IT IN THIS WAY OF STATING THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE BEEN IN COMPLIANCE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE YOU CAN RECEIVE AMNESTY. NOW, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER PROGRAM THAT I HAVE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE IN THAT OTHER SITUATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU. YEAH, TANJA, I HEAR YOU. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY LIENS ARE OUT THERE. WE DON'T KNOW THE SEVERITY OF IT. SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WHAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER IN THAT IS FAIR. SO WE HAVE TO TRY TO GET THE CITY BACK INTO COMPLIANCE. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GO AFTER THEM. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SAY, I GOT YOU. THAT'S NOT THE GOAL. THERE ARE, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE ARGUING DIFFERENT ARGUMENTS AND INSTEAD OF GOING TO COURT AND ARGUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE CITY IN COMPLIANCE, PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO TO COURT WITH US FOR YEARS BEFORE THAT, BEFORE IT GETS TO THAT POINT. LAUDERDALE LAKE STILL IS GONNA LOOK SLUM AND BLIGHTED OTHER CITIES, HOW THEY DO IT. THAT'S COOL. LAUDERDALE LAKES, I DON'T KNOW NO OTHER CITY THAT CAN COME UP AND SAY THEY DON'T KNOW HOW MANY LIENS ARE OUT THERE, BUT WE WANT TO GO AFTER LIENS. WE'RE THE ONLY CITY SAYING THAT. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A CREATIVE APPROACH AT MAKING THIS PROCESS AS EASY AS POSSIBLE. THAT 18 MONTHS BEFORE, I THINK THAT WAS PUT IN THERE TO TRY TO, KNOWING PEOPLE AIN'T GONNA QUALIFY FOR IT. IDEALLY, THE BIGGEST ONES THAT OWE US LIENS. YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT OWE US 600,000, NOT GONNA QUALIFY FOR THAT, BUT WE KNOW THAT ALREADY THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER THOMAS, TO MY, MY COLLEAGUES' QUESTION THAT A, THIS JUST DE UM, STRICTLY DEALS WITH THE COMMER, NOT THE THE RESIDENTIAL. RIGHT. AND NOT THE COMMERCIAL. THE 18 MONTHS THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, SERGEANT, THE 18 MONTHS WOULD BE FOR HOMESTEAD AND THE THREE YEARS WOULD BE FOR NON-HOMESTEAD. THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. OH GOSH. YEAH. IT WAS THE 18 MONTHS AND THE THREE YEARS. THAT'S WHAT THE REFERENCE WAS. I'M GLAD THAT WE CLARIFIED CORRECT THE UNDERSTANDING OF IT. UM, HOWEVER, I DO THINK THAT IF WE OFFER AN AMNESTY PROGRAM TO PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST COMING INTO COMPLIANCE, WE DO HAVE A, A ISSUE WITH MAYBE, [04:15:01] UM, DETERRING OR, OR DOING SOME DAMAGE TO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT PRACTICES. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE PE LIKE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM FOR YEARS AND THEY HAVEN'T CAME INTO COMPLIANCE. AND THEN, UH, TWO MONTHS AGO THEY CAME INTO COMPLIANCE AND NOW WE RUN AN AMNESTY PROGRAM AND THEY COME IN AND THEY PAY OFF THEIR LIENS FOR 30% OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS. YOU GUYS DETERMINE, AND THEY'RE WALKING AWAY WITH A HUGE, UH, BENEFIT. WHEREAS CODE ENFORCEMENT SPENT YEARS TO GET THEM INTO COMPLIANCE. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM ALSO SPEND YEARS IN COMPLIANCE BEFORE WE GIVE THEM THIS SIZE OF A, UH, REDUCTION IN THE COST OF THEIR FEES. I THINK COM COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT'S HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD THEN. WOULDN'T THAT CAUSE A BACKLOG? EXACTLY. , UM, , MS. TANGER. EXACTLY. I MEAN 18 MONTHS AND THREE YEARS AND WITH AN UNKNOWN FACTOR THEN I'M NOT QUITE SURE. THAT MAY BE THE BEST WAY FOR US TO GO. UM, MAYBE DECREASING THE AMOUNT OF COMPLIANCE TIME, BUT 18 YEARS AND THREE MONTHS, I THINK WE'LL BE HERE FOREVER. YEAH, MADAM, DO YOU, I'M SORRY YOU, I'M MALICIOUS. I JUST WANNA SAY THE GOAL, MS. RO, I FEEL IT IS TO GET THEM IN COMPLIANCE. THEY'LL FEEL IT. IF THEY DON'T GET IN COMPLIANCE, WE'RE RIGHT BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE. WE'RE GONNA GO AFTER THEM. SO IF THEY'RE THAT TYPE OF PERSON, CHANCES ARE THEY WON'T BE IN COMPLIANCE. THEY HAD THEIR CHANCE. BUT THE GOAL IS FOR THE 80 90% OF PEOPLE OUT THERE ONE TIME TO COME TO US AND BE RACING TO GET IN COMPLIANCE, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE CAN MAKE FROM THAT AS A CITY FOR PROGRAMS. INSTEAD OF WAITING THREE, FOUR YEARS FIGHTING WITH PEOPLE BEFORE WE EVEN SEE ONE. TO BE HONEST, HALF OF US PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN BE UP HERE ANYMORE. YOU KNOW? SO WE, WE, WE HAVE TO SEE THINGS THROUGH IN A REASONABLE WAY WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY LET THEM KNOW, LISTEN, THIS IS, WE'RE GIVING OUT FREE ICE CREAM, BUT IT'S ONLY GONNA BE HERE BEFORE IT MELTS. AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN THEY'RE BACK TO EATING ROCKS. LIKE, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE. WE NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT HARD FOR THEM. WE HAVE TO MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE THEM OWING MONEY IS HARD ALREADY. THEY MAY GO BACK TO THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE. THE PROGRAM HAS TO BE ATTRACTIVE. AND I THINK THAT'S WAY TOO LONG. MS. TANJA, MS. TANJA, IF WE DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF PROBATIONARY TIME, I COME IN, I CURE EVERYTHING, I MAKE MY APPLICATION, I'M APPROVED, I PAY MY 35%, AND THEN A YEAR FROM NOW I'M OUT OF COMPLIANCE AGAIN. TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT. UH, YES. SO THAT WOULD, AMNESTY IS A ONE TIME PROGRAM, SO YOU WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO COME BACK IN FOR AMNESTY. AND WE COULD ALSO PUT A TIME ON THAT FOR HOW LONG YOU WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO DO AN AMNESTY PROGRAM. ALSO THROUGH YOUR MADAM MAYOR, WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT HOW MUCH TIME DID IT TAKE US TO BRING YOU INTO COMPLIANCE AS A RULE FOR WHEN YOU WOULD BE ELIGIBLE. SO IF IT TOOK YOU TWO YEARS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, THEN YOU HAVE TO WAIT TWO YEARS TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR AN AMNESTY PROGRAM. IF IT TOOK YOU SIX MONTHS, THEN YOU WAIT SIX MONTHS. BUT I DO FEEL THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A BACKLOG, THAT THE BIGGEST BACKLOG IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THREE YEARS TO 18 MONTHS OUT. BECAUSE MOST OF THE, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT, WHO HAVE NOT BEEN IN COMPLIANCE IN THE LAST TWO TO THREE YEARS, WE ARE PRETTY MUCH AWARE OF WHO THOSE, UH, CUSTOMERS ARE OR RESIDENTS OR BUSINESS OWNERS ARE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM OVER THE LAST TWO TO THREE YEARS TO GET THEM INTO COMPLIANCE. BUT THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY UNKNOWN ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WAY BACK THERE, FIVE, 10 YEARS THAT HAVE A LIEN THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. OKAY. MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU. I JUST WANNA SAY I, AGAIN, I, I THINK THAT'S NOT, UM, I THINK IF SOMEBODY, UH, DOES THE PROGRAM PAYS AND GOES OUTTA COMPLIANCE, I THINK THEY SHOULDN'T GET NO TYPE OF AMNESTY. SO DO I AT THAT POINT. YEAH. I AIN'T SEE NOTHING. AND THAT'S EVERYTHING ON THE AMNESTY. UH, LET ME JUST CHECK THE PROGRAM. THE LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAM. YES. THAT'S [04:20:01] THE AMNESTY PROGRAM THAT WE DISCUSSED. NOW WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAM. THIS IS AN ONGOING PROGRAM. EVEN IF YOU DID NOT QUALIFY FOR THE AMNESTY PROGRAM, YOU WOULD GO INTO THE, YOU WOULD STILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAM. THIS PROGRAM WOULD HAVE A THREE-TIERED SYSTEM FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIENS. THAT'S FROM ZERO TO $25,000. THOSE LIENS WOULD BE DEALT WITH ADMINISTRATIVELY THROUGH MY DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY MANAGER. THAT LIEN AMOUNT WOULD GIVE ME, I COULD REDUCE THEIR LIEN BY UP TO 85%, WHICH IS THE 15% THAT THEY COULD ALSO GET IN AMNESTY. BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE PROBABLY THE ONES THAT ARE MORE FREQUENTLY GOING ON RIGHT NOW. CURRENT. SO THAT ACTIVITY, THEY'VE JUST GONE BEFORE THE MAGISTRATE AND USED OUR RESOURCES BASED ON THAT. BUT THOSE LIENS I WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT AND BASED ON SOME, UM, CRITERIA, REDUCE THEIR LIENS UP TO 85%. AND AGAIN, THIS IS FROM ZERO TO $25,000. SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE CARE OF MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. SORRY, WE DON'T KNOW THAT MS. TANJA 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY LIENS ARE OUT THERE. AM I CORRECT THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR? I DO BELIEVE THAT THE LOWER LIENS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE MOST LIKELY UNKNOWN BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY CAME INTO COMPLIANCE. WE DID NOT HAVE TO TAKE THEM IN FRONT OF THE MAGISTRATE MULTIPLE TIMES OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THOSE ARE THE SMALL, THE SMALLER AMOUNT OF LIENS ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE OUR HOMESTEAD RESIDENTS. AND THEY CAME INTO COMPLIANCE, MADAM MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR, MS. TANJA, THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, NOT SO MUCH APARTMENT COMPLEXES AS THE SHOPPING AIR CENTERS AND ALL THOSE. YEAH. THEY WILL QUALIFY FOR THIS PROGRAM. THEY WILL QUALIFY FOR THAT PROGRAM. YES. UP TO 85%, YOU'RE SAYING 85% IF YOUR LIEN IS LESS THAN $25,000. OKAY, SO THAT'S A SMALL LIEN. THAT MEANS YOU JUST HAD A FEW THINGS OUTTA COMPLIANCE. YOU CAME INTO COMPLIANCE PRETTY QUICKLY. AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO TO FORGIVE YOUR LIEN. 85 UP TO 85% THROUGH MY OFFICE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF COMMISSION. THEY DON'T HAVE TO. THEY JUST PUT IN AN APPLICATION AND IT'S TAKEN CARE OF. OKAY. THE SECOND TIER WOULD BE A LIEN THAT'S $25,001 UP TO $150,000. THOSE LIENS WOULD GO TO OUR SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FOR REVIEW. AGAIN, THIS PERSON HAS PROBABLY BEEN IN WITH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND SHE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A REALLY GOOD IDEA OF HOW TO REDUCE THAT LIEN. HE OR SHE. AND THAT LIEN WOULD BE ABLE, ELIGIBLE FOR REDUCTION UP TO 80%. AND THEN THE FINAL TIER IS $150,000 AND ABOVE WOULD COME BEFORE COMMISSION 50,001. AND THOSE LANES WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR REDUCTION UP TO 65%. AGAIN, THESE LIENS WOULD BE LOOKED AT ON A CRITERIA LOOKING AT, UM, PROPERTY MUST BE IN FULL COMPLIANCE. ALL MUNICIPAL CODE CHARGES AND TAXES MUST BE PAID IN FULL. APPLICANT MUST SUBMIT A NOTARIZED APPLICATION. THE APPLICANT MUST SUBMIT WRITTEN NARRATIVE JUSTIFYING THE REQUEST FOR THE REDUCTION. DURATION OF NON-COMPLIANCE WILL BE CONSIDERED TIMELINESS OF CORRECTION OF ACTIONS. AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT THE SMALLER LIENS ARE. NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS. NATURE OF THE PROPERTY, WHETHER IT'S HOMESTEAD, NON-HOMESTEAD OR COMMERCIAL NATURE OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATION WOULD BE CONSIDERED LIFE SAFETY CODE, BUILDING CODE, COMMUNITY STANDARDS. WHAT WERE THEY VIOLATING FOR HISTORY OF CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS ON THESE PROPERTIES, AS WELL AS OTHER PROPERTIES THAT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES AND, AND ANY OTHER UNIQUE MATERIAL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THE CITY OR THE COMMISSION DEEMS [04:25:01] APPROPRIATE TO ADDRESS. MS. TANGER, COULD YOU REPEAT THE FIRST TIER? 'CAUSE I THOUGHT I HEARD $0. YEAH. WELL, I'M SORRY. $0 THERE WOULD'VE BEEN NO, I MEANT TO SAY, UH, LET ME SEE. WHAT DID I HAVE HERE? A HUNDRED DOLLARS. OKAY. YEAH. A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO 25,000. MS. TRE FOUR. THE 85%, 80%, AND 65% UP TO UP TO 65% UP. WHAT PUTS ME IN THE CATEGORY OF 50% AND NOT 40%. HOW WOULD THAT DETERMINATION BE MADE? THAT WAS THE CRITERIA THAT I READ OFF. JUST READ BEFORE? YES. THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD REVIEW. SO IN THE, IN THIS PROGRAM, THIS APPLICANT WOULD RECEIVE A STAFF REPORT AND A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLIANCE OFFICER SUPERVISOR. THIS, UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY'RE COMING BEFORE COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LIEN THAT'S O OVER $150,000, THEN THE COMMISSION WILL RECEIVE THAT REPORT AND MAKE A DECISION OF HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO REDUCE THAT LIEN BY, BASED UPON THE CRITERIA, THE FACTORS THAT YOU JUST READ. YES. BASED ON THOSE FACTOR FACTORS. AGAIN, THE APPLICATION PROCESS. I'M SORRY, YOU GUYS ARE READY FOR ME? MM-HMM . OKAY. THE APPLICATION PROCESS WOULD INCLUDE A $500 FEE AND, UH, 1% OF THE LIEN AMOUNT AS A DEPOSIT TO BE USED AS ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. 5% APP FEE AND 1%. 500. 500 APP FEE. YEAH. AND 1% FOR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. YES. THIS APPLICATION, AGAIN, WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR HOMESTEAD PROPERTY OWNERS. UM, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS TWICE, POST 2025. AND FOR NON-HOMESTEAD, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO DO THIS ONLY ONE TIME. REPEAT THAT PLEASE, MS. SO IF A HOMESTEAD PROPERTY CAME, FELL OUT OF COMPLIANCE AFTER THEY RECEIVE THIS LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAM, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO GET THIS PROGRAM AGAIN. WHY WOULD WE DO THAT? UH, IT COULD BE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ALL DISCUSSION. THE COMMISSION CAN DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO, UH, RECOMMEND THAT OR NOT. ALRIGHT. OKAY. IT IS A HARD THING MADAM MAYOR. MADAM MAYOR. OH, THANK YOU. MY MY MY CONCERN IS THAT THESE SCALE METHODS ARE SO CONFUSING FOR US. IT MIGHT BE CONFUSING FOR THEM. IT'LL BE AN AMNESTY PROGRAM OR AN AMNESTY PROGRAM IS A FORM OF A LEAN REDUCTION PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, BUT AN AMNESTY METHOD, I THINK IS CLEAR CUT. IT'D BE QUICK TO ADVERTISE. EASY TO LET THE PEOPLE KNOW. AN AMNESTY PROGRAM IS A LIE REDUCTION PROGRAM AS WELL. IS THAT CORRECT? THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR? YES. OKAY. SO WE DON'T NEED TO SEPARATE THE TWO TERMS. THE AMNESTY AS WELL IS A REDUCTION PROGRAM. THESE SCALES WITH THESE OTHER TWO, WHAT'S CALLED HERE, LEAN RE IT IS, IT'S TOO, IT'S TOO COMPLICATED. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT AND THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THE REASON THAT I'M, UH, REQUESTING THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM IS BECAUSE IT'S ONGOING SO THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT JUST LIKE TODAY, OR SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO'VE COME IN AND COMPLAINED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE THAT WAS ONGOING. 'CAUSE ONCE THE AMNESTY PROGRAM GOES AWAY, WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN THAT WANT TO GET THEIR LIENS REDUCED. MADAM MAYOR. SORRY, I WAS GONNA SAY AHEAD. IF THEY COME IN AFTER THAT'S AWAY. TOO BAD. THAT'S IT. THEY PAID THE MONEY. WE DON'T, LIKE WE, WE PUT IT OUT THERE. GIVE THEM ENOUGH CHANCE TO PAY FOR IT. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED IF THEY DON'T GET INTO THE PROGRAM. WHAT IF THEY COME BACK OR WHAT IF THEY STILL COME FOR THE PROGRAM? I JUST, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S A LOT OF VARIABLES FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. I THINK. MR GO AHEAD, MS. CHANDRA, DO YOU, MADAM MAYOR? I'M, I'M, AGAIN, WE WERE SAYING WE'RE RUNNING THE AMNESTY PROGRAM FOR SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR IN 2027, WE'RE STILL GONNA NEED TO HAVE A METHOD OF RESOLVING LIENS. AND THIS IS THE PROGRAM THAT I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE HAVE A METHOD IN PLACE TO RESOLVE LIENS AT ALL TIMES. SO THAT WHEN I'M GONE, SOMEONE WALKS INTO MY OFFICE AND SOMEBODY ASKS THEM, HOW DO I GET MY LIEN REDUCED? I HAVE, I DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD METHOD [04:30:01] OF DOING THAT. SO I'M TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR THE NEXT DIRECTOR TO HAVE A METHOD IN PLACE TO TELL THEM, THIS IS HOW YOU GET YOUR LIEN REDUCED. I THINK IT MAY BE COMPLICATED, BUT IT WILL ALSO BE A PROCESS THAT'S IN PLACE. WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S COMPLICATED. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE CLEAR CUT GUIDELINES FOR AN AMNESTY PROGRAM AND CLEAR CUT GUIDELINES FOR LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAM. I DON'T, I DON'T FIND IT COMPLICATED. MS. TANJA, MAD MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER THOMAS. AND, AND FROM WHAT YOU SAID, MS. TANJA, THE AMNESTY PROGRAM HAS A LIMITED TIMEFRAME, RIGHT? YES. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY. AGAIN, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION IN CREATING THIS LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAM IS BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD ME, YOU CAN GIVE THEM UP TO 10% OFF. WELL, ME WALKING IN AS A NEW DIRECTOR, I WAS NOT GONNA GIVE 10% OF A MILLION DOLLARS TO ANYONE WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM THE COMMISSION. SO THIS IS WHY I NEED A PROGRAM THAT I CAN USE CONTINUOUSLY. MAD MAYOR, MS. HARRISON, I JUST WANNA SAY AGAIN, AN AMNESTY IS A FORM OF A LIEN REDUCTION. SO WE'RE SAYING, DO WE WANT AN AMNESTY OR THE LIE REDUCTION? WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. THAT'S SEMANTICS. THE, THE, THE AMNESTY IS A FORM OF LIEN REDUCTION. SO THAT TOO IS A LIE REDUCTION PROGRAM. UM, IF PEOPLE, IF THE AMNESTY PROGRAM IS FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND PEOPLE DON'T CATCH THAT WAVE, THAT PROGRAM, AND THEY OWN LIENS, WE GO BACK TO BUSINESS, THEY OWE LIENS. SO WHEN YOU SAY, WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF COLLECTING LIENS? IT'S THE SAME PROCESS WE HAD BEFORE. WE WAS GONNA CO WE, WE TELL THEM THEY HAVE A LIEN AND IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY IT, THEN WE HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY THAT DOES THAT PART OF THE JOB. BUT, UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE IF, LIKE, IF THE AMNESTY PROGRAM DOESN'T WORK THE WAY WE NEED IT TO, WE HAVE A SECOND NET TO, TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING AFTERWARDS. WE COULD JUST EXTEND THE AMNESTY PROGRAM. BECAUSE THE MAIN GOAL IS COMPLIANCE. THAT'S THE MAIN GOAL. THE MAIN GOAL IS COMPLIANCE. SO I, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW. I JUST FEEL LIKE IT, IT IS NOT, YOU KNOW, 18 MONTHS IS JUST TOO, IT'S, THERE'S NO INCENTIVE IN THE PROCESS OR VERY LITTLE. OKAY. THAT'S IT THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. YES, MA'AM. SO, UH, AGAIN, I THINK THIS PROGRAM IS A GOOD OPTION FOR US TO HAVE IN PLACE ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS. I THINK THAT, UM, NOT HAVING SOMETHING IN, IN PLACE IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE HAD SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. I'VE HAD PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY OWED $120,000. I WOULD HAVE TO GIVE THEM $12,000 OFF. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT WITHOUT HAVING THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVE A PROCESS FOR ME TO DO IT. THANK YOU. MS. TANGER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR DETAILED INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION. THANK YOU MADAM MANAGER. [M.  DISCUSSION REGARDING BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE (BSO) HANDLING OF A TRESPASS AGAINST VINCENT RICHMOND (SPONSORED BY VICE MAYOR CAUSWELL)] MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE M DISCUSSION REGARDING BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE HANDLING OF A TRESPASS AGAINST VINCENT RICHMOND. AND THIS ITEM IS BEING SPONSORED BY VICE MAYOR SWELL. I, VICE MAYOR MADAM MAYOR. YES, MA'AM. I AM LOOKING ON THE REPORT REPORTING OFFICER NARRATIVE. YOU WERE, YOU WERE OUT MARCH 11TH ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER THOMAS IN WASHINGTON. DONE. THERE WERE TWO COMMISSIONERS HERE, COMMISSIONER COLLEEN MAXWELL WILLIAMS AND VICE MAYOR TYSON SWELL. I WASN'T AWARE THAT THERE WAS ANY COMMOTION, ANY DISTURBANCE. URBANS, I KNOW WE WERE WAITING ON COMMISSIONER HARRISON TO COME SO THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEND TO THE CITY'S BUSINESS. AND SOMETIME QUARTER TO NINE FOUR CITY MANAGER, RESA BROWN STUBBS CAME TO ME AND SAID, WE HAVE TO COMMISSIONER HARRISON TELEPHONED RALPH MEAD, WHO IS ONE OF OUR COMMISSION AIDE. BUT HE HAD A PROBLEM WITH HIS CAR AND HE WAS NOT GOING TO ATTEND [04:35:01] THE MEETING. SO WE ADJOURNED THE MEETING. I, I THINK I WAS THE NEARLY THE LAST PERSON HERE. 'CAUSE YOU ARE OUT OF TOWN. SO I THINK CITY MANAGER AT THAT TIME WAS THE CITY CLERK ALONG WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND MYSELF. WE WERE HERE SIGNING PAPERS. I LEFT, WENT HOME. I NEVER HEARD ANY DISTURBANCE, BUT I WAS AWARE OF, I WAS TOLD, I THINK IT IS THE DAY AFTER MARCH 11TH, TUESDAY, MARCH 11TH WEDNESDAY, I HEARD THAT MR. VINCENT RICHMOND, I DID NOT, I KNEW OF HIM, BUT IS NOT SOMEONE THAT I WAS FAMILIAR WITH. THAT HE WAS SERVED EITHER SERVED PAPERS AT HIS HOUSE TUESDAY NIGHT. AND I HEARD THAT HE WAS BARRED FROM COMING TO CITY HALL, WHICH AS I SAID, I KNOW IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE AND UNDER THE BILL OF RIGHTS IT SAYS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS STRANGE I WAS HERE. I KNOW I SAW HIM SITTING SOMEWHERE THERE. HE WALKED THROUGH THAT DOOR, WENT OUT. I WASN'T AWARE THERE WAS ANY PROBLEM. THEN WEDNESDAY, I WAS TOLD THAT THIS CITY MANAGER CALLED A MEETING WITH HER SENIOR STAFF ALONG WITH THEN HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTOR, DERA GIDEN JONES. AND WAS TOLD THAT IF THEY SAW HIM ON THE PROPERTY, THEY SHOULD CALL THE COPS BECAUSE HE WAS CHARGED FOR TRESPASSING. AND I AM READING THIS REPORT, WHICH THEY SAID THAT IT WAS BROCKINGTON, GLENDA MUST HAVE MADE SOME, SPOKE TO THE CITY MANAGER. AND IN IT, HE SAID THAT VINCE SENT A RICHMOND, SAID THAT, THAT TO TELL THE CITY MANAGER RE STOPS THAT I'M COMING FOR HER. I DON'T KNOW HOW A SECONDHAND INFORMATION THAT COULD BE A THREAT. I'M COMING FOR HER. MAYBE THEY HAD A, THEY COULD BE PLANNING A DINNER, THEY COULD BE GOING ON A DATE. THEY COULD GO ANYWHERE. AND I WOULD'VE EXPECTED IF SOMEONE, IF I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A THREAT, I WOULD'VE ASKED HIM, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? AND I'M ALSO READING HERE WHERE TREA STUBBS STATED THAT SHE DID ATTEND THE MEETING, BUT WAS NOT PART OF THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN BROCKINGTON AND RICHMOND. ON APRIL 8TH, I WAS HERE. I WENT HOME AND I SAW A TEXT FROM WENDY RICHMOND. SHE TEXTED ME AND SAID VINCE WAS ASKED BY CAPTAIN PHILLIPS TO VACATE THE CHAMBER, OTHERWISE HE WOULD BE ARRESTED. I WAS SITTING RIGHT HERE. I, I THINK I SAW HIM SITTING IN THE, EITHER THE SECOND OR THE THIRD ROW [04:40:01] BEHIND NICOLE HALL. AND I SAW HE GOT UP. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HAD HAPPENED, WENT OUT. NOW I DON'T WANT MY CITY TO BECOME THE LAUGHING STOCK OR THE TALKING STOCK OF ANYWHERE. TO ME, IF THIS IS A PUBLIC SPACE, VINCENT RICHMOND IS A HOMESTEADER ONE THAT SOMEONE WHO HAS MAYBE THE BEST CURB APPEAL HOUSE IN THE EAST GATE. DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE, BUT I KNOW ON 29TH STREET, IT'S, HIS HOUSE HAS EXCELLENT CURB APPEAL, PAYS A LOT OF TAXES, MAYBE FOUR TIMES AS MUCH THAT I PAY BECAUSE I BOUGHT MY HOUSE YEARS AGO. AND WHEN SAVE OUR HOMES CAME ABOUT, I WAS ABLE TO USE IT. AND SINCE IT'S ONLY 3%, MY TAXES CAN GO UP. SO I KNOW MY TAX BASE IS LOW AND I'M NOT HERE FOR VINCENT RICHMOND. I'M HERE FOR EVERY RESIDENT OR OUTSIDE OF THE CITY IN LORD DAY LAKES. FOR AS I LOOK ON MYSELF, I AM A COMMISSIONER HERE. SO RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD TELL ME THAT I CANNOT COME TO THE CITY. BUT WHAT HAPPENS FOUR OR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AND SOMEONE HAS A VENDETTA AGAINST ME AND SAY TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I DON'T WANT FORMER COMMISSIONER THIC ISRAEL TO COME. AND THE OUTCOME COULD BE THE SAME. APRIL THE NINTH, I CALLED CAPTAIN PHILLIPS NUMBER. I DON'T THINK HE DID RESPOND. THEN HE CALLED ME BACK AND I ASKED HIM WHAT HAPPENED, WHY THIS GUY WAS ASKED TO LEAVE THE CHAMBER PUBLIC SPACE. AS FAR AS I KNOW, AND UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT. ANYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO COME INTO THIS CHAMBER. THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE DISRUPTIVE. 'CAUSE IF THEY'RE DISRUPTIVE, THAT PERSON'S DISRUPTIVE. I WOULD EXPECT THE MAYOR TO ASK THE COPS TO TAKE OUT THAT PERSON. BUT SITTING RIGHT THERE LISTENING, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT PERSON HAS THE RIGHT UNDER THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. TWO WEEKS AGO, NO, I DID SPEAK TO CAPTAIN PHILLIPS AND AS I SAID TO HIM, WHEN, WHEN HE CALLED ME BACK, HE SAID THAT TERESA IS NO LONGER HERE, BUT GLENDA AND RON ARE AFRAID. NOW, IF I AM AFRAID OF SOMEONE AND I BELIEVE THAT PERSON IS A THREAT, I WOULD'VE GONE DOWN TO THE 17TH STREET CIRCUIT FILE A RESTRAINING ORDER. IT'S GOING TO BE A TEMPORARY ONE. MAYBE I WOULD GET IT, MAYBE NOT. BUT I COULD NOT SEND DICK, TOM OR HARRY TO GO THERE TO REPRESENT ME UNLESS IT IS AN ATTORNEY. SO THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE, IF YOU FEEL THAT BY SMEAR SWELL IS BEING HOSTILE [04:45:01] TO YOU, YOU WOULD GO DOWNTOWN AND MAKE SURE YOU FILE A RESTRAINING ORDER. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHY CAPTAIN PHILLIPS WOULD'VE ASKED MR. VINCENT RICHMOND TO VACATE THE PREMISES, THE CHAMBER. BECAUSE AS FAR AS IT IS, FORMER CITY MANAGER IS NO LONGER HERE. SO IF THE THREAT HAS BEEN REMOVED, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO KNOW HOW IT, WHY THAT PERSON WOULD NOT BE HERE. CAPTAIN PHILLIP TOLD ME THAT THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN AFFIDAVIT SIGNED, BUT UNFORTUNATELY NONE WAS SIGNED. I SPOKE TO THE CITY MANAGER TO A FIND OUT FROM HER BECAUSE I WOULD HOPE THAT IF THERE IS A THREAT AND EMPLOYEES FEEL THAT IT IS NOW A HOSTILE WORKING ENVIRONMENT, THAT THEY WOULD'VE GONE TO HUMAN RESOURCE, LARGE, GET A LARGER COMPLAINT, PAPERWORK WOULD'VE BEEN DONE. I CONTACTED MY CITY MAN, ACTING CITY MANAGER, AND I GOT A RESPONSE THAT FORMER HR DIRECTOR DERA HAD NOTHING ON FILE, NOTHING FOR THE GUY THAT IS, IS BEING PREVENTED FROM COMING TO CITY HALL BECAUSE NEITHER FORMER CITY MANAGER, GLENDA AND RON DID NOT FILE ANY, DID NOT MAYBE GO TO THE THE OFFICE AND FILE A COMPLAINT IN ONE OF THE EMAILS THAT I SAW. 'CAUSE I WAS, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER, CAPTAIN PHILLIPS, IN THE ONE IN THE EMAIL, HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HIS LEGAL COUNSELOR AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, AN OPINE ON THIS THING HERE, BECAUSE I KNOW IF IT HAPPENS TO ONE, IT CAN HAPPEN TWO OR I SAW CAPTAIN PHILLIPS TWO WEEKS AGO, TUESDAY NIGHT. AND I DID ASK HIM OUTSIDE, WHAT ABOUT, HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY INFORMATION FROM YOUR SHERRY FOR TONY? HE DIDN'T ANSWER ME THAT WAY. HE SAID, I SAID TO HIM, WELL, I AM GOING TO INVITE RICHMOND HERE AS MY GUESTS AND BRING HIM HERE. AND HIS ANSWER TO ME WAS THAT, IF YOU BRING HIM, I WILL HAVE HIM ARRESTED. NO, THERE ARE FIVE PEOPLE SITTING UP HERE THAT WERE ELECTED A MAYOR, FOUR COMMISSIONERS. AND THEN THE COMMISSION APPOINTED FOUR MORE PERSONS, A CITY MANAGER TO MANAGE THEIR AFFAIRS. A CITY ATTORNEY TO DO THE LEGAL WORK, A CRA ATTORNEY FOR CRA AND AN AUDITOR. ANYONE ELSE THAT WORKS AT THE CITY HAPPENS TO BE, EITHER YOU ARE EMPLOYED THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OR YOU ARE A CONTRACTUAL WORKER. AND I READ AN EMAIL THAT CAPTAIN PHILIP SENT BACK TO [04:50:02] THE CITY, CITY MANAGER. AND IN IT, HE SAID, ASKING THE QUESTION, OH, THE GUY NEVER USED TO COME TO CITY HALL, SO WHY IS HE COMING? AND I'M ASKING MYSELF, IS THIS THE NEW UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? IT CAN'T BE THE OLD ONE THAT AN ADULT, A HOMESTEADER . BESIDES THAT, I'M NO LONGER WORKING. I HAVE THE TIME TO COME AND SOMEONE IS GOING TO TELL ME THAT PERSON THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE. SO I AM HERE TONIGHT TO FIND OUT THERE IS NO AFFIDAVIT THAT WAS SIGNED. SO TECHNICALLY HOW COULD THAT BE A CASE? NO PAPERWORK WAS HANDED IN. I DON'T KNOW THE DYNAMICS BETWEEN MR. RON. MR. RON MUST HAVE SPOKEN TO CAPTAIN PHILLIPS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE SAID TO ME AND TO OTHERS. OH, RON IS AFRAID AND GLENDA IS AFRAID. BUT THIS REPORTING OFFICER SPOKE TO TREA AND TREA WAS ADVISED ON HOW TO RETRIEVE A RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST RICHMOND. AND I BELIEVE THAT IF RON AND GLENDA ARE AFRAID, THEN THE CORRECT THING TO DO WOULD BE TO GO DOWNTOWN, FILE A RESTRAINING ORDER. SO MAYBE THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO GO BACK, BACK TO THE COURTS AND LET THEM TELL THE JUDGE WHY YOU ARE AFRAID OF THAT PERSON. I HAVE TWO BLACK SONS AND A BLACK GRANDSON AND THINGS HAVE NOT CHANGED MUCH IN THE GREAT AND GRAND UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THEY'RE NOT BIG. TWO OF THEM ARE TALL. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE DECIDES THAT, OKAY, I KNOW I DON'T LIKE FORMER COMMISSIONER TYSON SWELL AND I MAYBE SEND MY BOYS HERE TO DO SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN. AND I I STILL CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW YOU DID NOT SPEAK WITH SOMEONE. SO HOW COULD IT BE A THREAT THAT THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION, PHYSICAL OR OTHERWISE? SO I AM STILL ASKING HOW COULD THAT BE A THREAT? REMEMBER IS CAN ALWAYS BE ISN'T ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU HEAR AND HOW YOU INTERPRET ANYTHING FOR IF I SAY I'M COMING TO GET YOU, IT COULD BE THAT I PLAN TO GIVE YOU A RIDE. I PLAN TO GO OUT WITH YOU. I DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD'VE INTERPRETED IT TO BE A THREAT. AND CAPTAIN PHILLIPS HAS TAKEN IT EMOTIONALLY FOR HIS TELLING ME THAT GLENDA IS AFRAID. GLENDA IS AFRAID. GLENDA NEEDS, SHE'S AN ADULT 49-YEAR-OLD LADY PERSON. SHE NEEDS TO GO DOWNTOWN, FILE A REPORT, FILE A RESTRAINING ORDER. I DID NOT KNOW. YOU COULD HAVE USED ANOTHER PERSON TO SAY, I AM AFRAID, BUT IT'S NOT. YOU'RE GOING DOWNTOWN. I DON'T SEE HOW THAT COULD HAPPEN. [04:55:01] CANNOT HAPPEN. AND MY LITTLE CITY, IT'S LIKE, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE THE TOP OF THE TOP FOR, I GUARANTEE PARKLAND HAS USED THE BESO, POMPANO BEACH USED BESO. AND IT MAY BE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEIR CITY HALL IS, BUT I WOULD, I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT ONE OF THOSE PERSONS SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE, NO ONE WOULD'VE ASKED THEM SITTING QUIETLY, NO, NO DISTURBANCE. AND YOU ARE GOING TO ASK THAT PERSON TO VACATE BECAUSE THEY ARE TRESPASSING. BUT WHERE IS THE PAPERWORK? AND THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. WHERE IS THE PAPERWORK FOR? I WAS TOLD BY CAPTAIN PHILLIPS THAT THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN AFFIDAVIT SIGNED. AND IF IT'S SIGNED, I'M SURE SOMEONE, OR THAT WOULD BE NOTARIZING IT, THAT IT BECOMES A LEGAL INSTRUMENT. THERE IS NONE. SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM THERE? HERE OR THERE? THANK YOU. THANKS MAYOR. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU CAPTAIN PHILLIPS. MADAM MAYOR, MADAM MADAM, VICE MAYOR COMMISSION, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY MANAGER AND CITY CLERK. I WANNA START BY SAYING I THAT YOUR DISTRICT CAPTAIN, MY TOP PRIORITY IS THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE GOVERNING BODY. THROUGHOUT MY TENURE HERE, WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT STRIDES IN STRENGTHENING PUBLIC SAFETY, INCLUDING CONDUCTING MULTIPLE ACTIVE KILLER TRAININGS, EXERCISES WITH CITY STAFF AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO ENHANCE PREPAREDNESS. IN THE EVENT OF A CRITICAL INCIDENT ON NUMBER ON NOVEMBER 27TH, 2024, AT THAT TIME, CITY EMPLOYEE VINCENT RICHMOND WAS ARRESTED BY BSO FOR DOMESTIC BATTERY BY STRANGULATION AND TAMPERING WITH THE EVIDENCE. FOLLOWING HIS ARREST, MR. RICHMOND WAS, UM, SUBSEQUENTLY TERMINATED FROM HIS POSITION WITH THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES. ON MARCH 11TH, MR. RICHMOND ATTENDED A CITY COMMISSIONER MEETING. DURING THE MEETING, MS. GLENDA BROCKINGTON, A CITY EMPLOYEE AND RESIDENCE OF LAKES, RECOGNIZED HIM FROM HIS PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY AND APPROACHED HIM TO INQUIRE ABOUT HIS ABSENCE. 'CAUSE SHE HADN'T SEEN HIM IN A LONG TIME. SHE TAPPED HIM ON THE SHOULDER AND ASKED HIM HOW WAS HE DOING? MENTIONED THAT SHE HAD THOUGHT THAT HE RETIRED. MR. RICHMOND RESPONDED THAT SHE WAS LYING AND THAT SHE KNEW HE HAD NOT RETIRED, BUT HE HAD INSTEAD BEEN TERMINATED IN FEBRUARY DUE TO A PERSONAL MATTER UNRELATED TO HIS EMPLOYMENT. HE THEN EXPRESSED FRUSTRATION ABOUT NOT HAVING RECEIVED A PERFORMANCE EVALUATION IN SEVEN YEARS AND CONCLUDED THE CONVERSATION BY SAYING, WELL, JUST LET YOUR BOSS KNOW I'M COMING FOR HER. MM-HMM . REFERRING TO THEN CITY MANAGER, TRESSA BROWN STUBBS. MS. BROCKINGTON ENDED THE CONVERSATION AND WALKED AWAY IN RESPOND TO THIS ENCOUNTER, CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME, TRESSA BROWN STUBBS AUTHORIZED A TRESPASS WARNING TO BE ISSUED TO MR. RICHMOND, PROHIBITING HIM FROM ENTERING CITY HALL. MS. UM, MY DEPUTY DEPUTY MICHAEL DREXLER CAME OUT AND LIEUTENANT KATE RESPONDED OUT HERE IN REFERENCE TO THE INCIDENT. IT WAS DOCUMENTED UNDER BSO CASE NUMBER 0 4 2 5 0 3 0 0 0 9 0 8. DEPUTY DREXLER, HE, UM, LATER ISSUED A FORMAL TRESPASS WARNING TO MR. RICHMOND AT HIS RESIDENCE, ADVISING HIM TO STAY AWAY FROM THE CITY HALL AND SPECIFY EMPLOYEES. HE WAS FURTHER INFORMED THAT IF HE HAD OFFICIAL BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, HE WOULD NEED TO CONTACT LAW ENFORCEMENT IN ADVANCE TO BE ESCORTED TO AND FRONT OF THE PREMISES. THIS INITIAL TRESPASS WARNING WAS ISSUED AT THE AUTHORITY OF THEN CITY MANAGER TRESS BROWN STUBBS. DESPITE THE TRESPASS WARNING, MR. RICHMOND ATTENDED CITY HALL ON APRIL THE EIGHTH. UM, THIS CONSTITUTED AN ACTUAL VIOLATION OF THE ORDER THAT HE RECEIVED AT HIS RESIDENCE. HOWEVER, HE COMPLIED WHEN ASKED TO LEAVE AND THE SITUATION WAS RESOLVED WITHOUT INCIDENT FOLLOWING HIS DEPARTURE. SEVERAL, NOT JUST GLENDA AND RON, BUT THERE WERE OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES THAT CAME UP TO ME AND THANKED ME FOR DOING MY JOB AND HAVING HIM ESCORTED OFF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY FELT UNCOMFORTABLE. [05:00:01] SINCE THE EVENT, THERE'S BEEN QUESTION REGARDING THE VALIDITY AND ENFORCEABILITY OF THE TRESPASS WARNING. TO BE CLEAR, I CANNOT ISSUE HIM A WARRANT WITHOUT A SIGNED AFFIDAVIT BECAUSE THE CITY WILL HAVE TO GIVE ME THE AUTHORITY TO GIVE TO ISSUE IT IN YOUR ABSENCE. HOWEVER, TRESS BROWN STUBBS HAD THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE A TRESPASS WARNING AT THAT TIME, AND SHE DID SO WITH HER DEPARTURE. I DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO RESCIND THAT TRESPASS ORDER. SO IT STILL IS IN EFFECT UNTIL IT'S RESCINDED. NOW, IF THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO RESCIND THAT, THEY CAN DO THAT JUST AS EASILY AS IT WAS ADMINISTERED, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO GET IT IN WRITING FROM THE CITY MANAGER, OR IN THIS CASE THE ACTING CITY MANAGER. ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS GIVE US A CALL, SAY THEY WANNA RESCIND IT, WE CAN WRITE IT UP. IT COULD BE RESCINDED. HOWEVER, THAT'S YOUR DECISION TO MAKE. IT'S NOT MY DECISION TO MAKE, I'M JUST AN AGENT WORKING IN A LAW ENFORCEMENT CAPACITY, AND MY JOB IS TO ENFORCE THE LAW. SO RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A TRESPASS WARNING ON FILE. THERE'S A CASE NUMBERS THAT I HAVE GIVEN YOU. THOSE CASE NUMBERS ALLOW US TO MAKE AN ARREST BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN WARNED. AND THAT WAS DONE BY THEN CITY MANAGER TRUST BROWN STUBBS. SO IF THEY WANT, IF YOU ALL WANT TO RESCIND THAT, SIMPLY CALL US OUT. SAY YOU WANT TO RESCIND IT, MY OFFICERS CAN DO THAT. HOWEVER, THAT'S YOUR DECISION TO MAKE, NOT MINE, BECAUSE AN OFFICIAL AFFIDAVIT GIVING US THE AUTHORITY TO OPERATE IN YOUR ABSENCE HASN'T BEEN SIGNED. OKAY? SO IN CONCLUSION, I JUST WANNA ITERATE, MY PRIORITY IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY OF EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES. AND I TAKE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. HOWEVER, THE ISSUE REGARDING A AFFIDAVIT NOT BEING SIGNED DOESN'T NOT MEAN THAT WE CAN'T ENFORCE A TRESPASS WARNING IF WE'VE BEEN GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO. AND YOUR AGENT, WHO AT THE TIME WAS TRUSTED BY THUGS, ALLOWED US TO GET THAT DONE. NOW, IN HER ABSENCE, THAT DOESN'T VOID OUT THE TRESPASS WARNING EITHER. IF YOU ALL WANT TO HAVE IT RESCINDED, YOU CAN SIMPLY HAVE THE CITY MANAGER, OR IN THIS CASE, THE ACTING CITY MANAGER, CALL US OUT. WE CAN GIVE A CASE NUMBER AND SAY THEY WANT TO RESCINDED. AND IT COULD BE DONE JUST THAT SIMPLE. BUT THAT'S YOUR DECISION TO MAKE NOT MINE OBJECT. MADAM CAPTAIN PHILLIPS. THERE WAS A THREAT ACCORDING TO BROCKINGTON OR MAYBE ACCORDING TO RESA, ALTHOUGH RESA SAID SHE HAD NO COMMUNICATION, SHE ATTENDED THE MEETING, BUT WAS NOT PART OF THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN BROCKINGTON AND RICHMOND. SO RESA IS NO LONGER HERE. AND YOU ARE SAYING TO ME, ALTHOUGH ALL, UH, TRESPASSING, WHATEVER IT IS, WAS ISSUED, WHO WAS IT ISSUED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OR BEHALF OF SOMEONE? IF I WANT TO GET A TRESPASSING CITATION AGAINST SOMEONE, OR AGAIN, IS IT AGAINST THE BUILDING THE PROPERTY OR IT HAS TO BE A PERSON? COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT FOR ME, SIR? CAPTAIN PHILLIPS, THROUGH YOUR MADAM MAYOR AT THIS MOMENT, IN THAT TIME WHEN TRESSA BROWN, I WASN'T HERE THAT NIGHT AS WELL MM-HMM. WHEN TRESS BROWN STUFFS ISSUED THAT WARNING, SHE ISSUED THAT AGAINST MR. VINCENT RICHMOND TO STAY AWAY FROM THE CITY PROPERTY. AT THAT TIME, THAT WAS HER CALL AT THAT TIME. SHE'S AN AGENT FOR THE CITY AND SHE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. NOW, SHE'S NO LONGER HERE. THAT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY VOID OUT THAT SAME AUTHORITY IF THEY WANT TO HAVE IT RESCINDED, WHICH I'VE ALSO TOLD YOU THAT CAN EASILY BE DONE BY ALLOWING US TO PUT IT IN WRITING. AND IT COULD BE DONE JUST AS EASY AS IT WAS ADMINISTERED. I CANNOT, I CANNOT, UM, JUST VOID IT OUT MYSELF. MADAM MAYOR. YES, MAYOR. I FIND IT. I CAN'T FIND ADJECTIVES NOW BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS A COMMUNITY PROPERTY NOT OWNED BY ANY INDIVIDUAL, NOT A HOME. IT'S NOT HER HOUSE, HER PROPERTY. AND TO SAY THAT RESA IS NO LONGER HERE, BUT THE CITATION REMAINS. SO IF 10 YEARS PASSED BY, I THOUGHT I WAS, I WAS TOLD THAT YOU SAID IT WAS A TEMPORARY TRAFFIC, UM, [05:05:01] TRESPASSING CITATION. I THOUGHT THAT IF I AM GOING, SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE CHARGED. I DIDN'T KNOW A PROPERTY. 'CAUSE TECHNICALLY YOU'RE TELLING ME SHE'S NO LONGER HERE. SHE WAS THE PERSON WHO CALLED THE COPS AND THEY ISSUED A CITATION THAT SHE'S NO LONGER HERE. BUT THE CITATION REMAINS. IT MEANS THAT THE, IT'S THE PROPERTY, PROPERTY THAT IS A PUBLIC SPACE. AND I'M GOING TO GO A LITTLE FARTHER OR FURTHER. THERE WAS A GUY BY THE NAME OF JOE MAJOR LIVED DOWN IN UNINCORPORATED BROWARD, WHICH IS NOW LORD HILL. THERE WAS NO TIME BETWEEN 2000 AND MAYBE 2005. HE CAME HERE RELIGIOUSLY EVERY TIME. AND TWO PEOPLE PERSONS, TWO PEOPLE, FORMER COMMISSIONER LEVO WILLIAMS AND COMMISSIONER HAZEL ROGERS. THERE WAS NO TIME WHEN HE DID NOT COME AND BEHAVE BADLY. HE WROTE THE NASTIEST SOFT LETTERS. COMMISSIONER ROGERS STILL HAVE A WHOLE STACK OF THEM. HE NEVER LIVED IN LAUDERDALE LAKES. AND I THOUGHT, HE DOESN'T LIVE HERE. HE HAS NO RIGHT TO COME. FORMER CITY AT TONY JAMES BRADY SAID THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING, GOT TO THE PODIUM AND HE CARRIED ON BADLY. NOTHING COULD BE DONE BECAUSE UNDER FLORIDA LAW, IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE THAT EVERYONE DOESN'T HAVE TO LIVE HERE. YOU CAN COME FROM TIMBUKTU, TAKE A SEAT THERE, SIGN THE PAPER, OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND YOU HAD THE RIGHT TO SPEAK. SO ACTING CITY MANAGER, NOW THAT CAPTAIN PHILIP SAYS SAYING IT MAYBE FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT THE ORDER CITATION CAN BE CHANGED, I WOULD HOPE THAT HE CHANGE. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. SHE'S OUT TO ME. THANK YOU SIR. SIDNEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE ANY COMMENTS? THANK YOU MADAM VICE MAYOR. I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT JUST JUST FOR CLARITY. NO CITATION WAS ISSUED. THERE WAS A TRESPASS WARNING THAT WAS ISSUED. SO AT NO POINT DID HE RECEIVE A CITATION. HE WAS ISSUED A TRESPASS WARRANT REGARDING THE MATTER. SO COULD YOU EX TELL US WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CITATION AND A TRESPASS WARRANT? UM, MADAM VICE MAYOR. YES, SIR. LET ME JUST COMMENT. 'CAUSE I THINK, AGAIN, I WHAT WHAT WHAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO IS, IS GONNA BE HELPFUL FOR THE, UH, COMMISSION AS WELL. UM, A TRESPASS WARNING CAN BE GIVEN BY A PERSON WHO HAS SOME LEVEL OF AUTHORITY. AND YOU'LL RECALL PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE YOU GO NOW, BUT LET'S JUST USE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. PUBLIX OR WIND, DIXIE, THEY HAVE TRESPASSING, UM, UM, SIGNS. BUT THOSE WARNINGS CAN BE GIVEN BY A MANAGER WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROPERTY AND THEY CAN BE GIVEN TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM DOING WHATEVER FOLKS MAY DO. THAT WAS GONNA CAUSE A DISTURBANCE THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE TRESPASS WARNING THAT MR. RICHMOND WAS GIVEN IN THIS CASE. IT WAS GIVEN BY, UM, MS. STUBBS WHO WAS A AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR THE CITY RELATIVE TO THE CITY'S PROPERTY. SO IT, IT, IT, IT'S NOT THAT DIFFERENT, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS GIVEN BY MS. STUBBS IN HER CAPACITY AS THE CITY MANAGER, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING FROM, UH, UH, CAPTAIN PHILLIPS IS THAT TRESPASS WARNING COULD BE LIFTED PRETTY MUCH AS IF, AGAIN, IF YOU GO TO THE PUBLIX OR TO THE SEVEN 11 AND YOU CONDUCT YOURSELF LIKE YOU'RE [05:10:01] SUPPOSED TO, THE MANAGER CAN SAY, OKAY, IT'S OKAY TO COME HERE, COME WITHIN THE PREMISES NOW. AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY, I THINK IS WHAT I'M HEARING FROM CAPTAIN PHILLIPS. THAT IF THE CITY COMMISSION OR, AND IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THE DIRECTION TO THE ACTING CITY MANAGER, YOU CERTAINLY CAN BY CONSENSUS GIVE HER A SIGNAL THAT YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT, IF YOU WILL, MAY HAVE DISSIPATED AND CAPTAIN PHILLIPS, I DON'T HAVE ANY ANYTHING TO SAY ON THAT, BUT, UM, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS. BUT IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO BY CONSENSUS, GIVEN NOD TO THE ACTING CITY MANAGER THAT THAT, UH, WARNING, UH, CAN BE, UH, LIFTED AT THIS POINT, THEN YOU VERY WELL CAN DO THAT. AND SHE, IN HER CAPACITY AS THE MANAGER CAN, CAN MAKE THAT CALL. UH, BUT THAT CALL COULD BE MADE NOT ONLY BY THE CITY MANAGER, IT COULD BE MADE BY THE MAYOR, IT COULD BE MADE BY ANYONE WHO IS IN A OFFICIAL CAPACITY WITH AUTHORITY FOR DIRECTING, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE CITY'S, UH, PROPERTY AND SAFETY. THANK YOU MADAM VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. ATTORNEY CALLAWAY. I THINK THE ULTIMATE GOAL AND THE REQUEST OF MADAM VICE MAYOR IS TO HAVE THE RESTRAINING ORDER LIFTED. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MADAM, MA'AM. AND COLLEAGUES, I NEED YOUR INPUT. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER THOMAS. THANK YOU, HARRISON. HONESTLY, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF WHAT THIS INDIVIDUAL'S BEEN THROUGH, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON THE HISTORY OF HIM AS AN EMPLOYEE. HE JUST GOT JUST A MOMENT. I UNDERST I, I DON'T KNOW. I, I FEEL BAD BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN A HUNDRED PERCENT. THE INFORMATION I WAS GIVEN WAS HE WENT ON A BATTERY CHARGED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, IT SOUNDS LIKE. AND THEN A, A, A THREAT WAS MADE AFTER, SO HIS HOUSE, JUST A MOMENT, MADAM VICE MAYOR, I UNDERSTAND. IT'S AT HIS HOUSE. I UNDERSTAND TANYA, THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND IT'S AT HIS HOUSE. AND AGAIN, MY, WHAT I'M SAYING IS I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH OF THIS INDIVIDUAL. YOU ALL SOUND LIKE YOU KNOW HIM MORE THAN ME. I DON'T KNOW HIM ENOUGH TO SAY YES TO THAT, AND THEN SOMETHING HAPPENS. THAT'S MY OPINION. SO I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. SO I I DON'T HAVE A VOTE ON THIS. THERE'S FOUR OTHER COMMISSIONERS, YOU GUYS, IF IT'S WHATEVER YOU ALL WANNA DO, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. BUT I DON'T HAVE A VOTE ON THIS. YOU DO HAVE A VOTE. UH, IT'S YOUR RIGHT TO EXERCISE OR NOT EXERCISE. THAT VOTE'S A WORKSHOP. MAYOR, I'M POINT OF INFORMATION. MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS NOT A VOTE. THIS IS A THANK YOU CONSENSUS DISCUSSION. I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THIS FIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. WHAT? SORRY, WE'RE LIFTING. WE WANT TO HAVE A CONSENSUS ON LIFTING THE, UM, RESTRAINING ORDER RES THE RESTRAINING ORDER, NOT THE RE TRESPASS. SO HERE'S MY THING. WAIT, WAIT. YOU CAN GIVE SOMEONE A TRESPASS TO NOT COME INTO A PUBLIC SPACE. YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT CAPTAIN PHILLIPS, THE ISSUE ISN'T, IF IT'S IN A PUBLIC SPACE, THE THERE WAS A PERCEIVED THREAT. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, A PERCEIVED THREAT. THE ISSUE ISN'T THE FACT THAT HE CAN'T COME TO A PUBLICIST PLACE. TRESSLER WAS THE CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME AND AN AGENT FOR THE CITY. SO SHE WAS AN AUTHORIZING BODY WHO SAID SHE CALLED US AND WE ISSUED HIM A TRESPASS WARNING TO STAY AWAY FROM HERE. SO BECAUSE OF THE PERCEIVED THREATS, TELL YOUR BOSS I'M COMING FOR HER. SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT SEE, UM, PERCEIVE THAT AS A THREAT. OTHERS DO. WE LIVE IN A DAY AND AGE WHERE THERE'S NOTHING AS CLEAR, CLEAR CUT. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS OF WHAT PEOPLE SAY. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT TIME. AND AGAIN, THE TRESPASS WARNING WAS AUTHORIZED BY HER AT THAT TIME. IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO RESCIND IT, THAT'S YOUR CALL. I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT AND I CANNOT BOARD IT OUT. MADAM MAYOR. HOWEVER, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESCIND IT, THAT'S YOUR CALL. MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS ATTORNEY CALLAWAY, TO THE QUESTION. I I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THE COMMISSION, THE MANAGER, BASED ON CIRCUMSTANCES, CERTAINLY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO, TO ISSUE A TRESPASS WARNING ON THIS PROPERTY TO PROTECT LIFE, PROPERTY AND PERSONS. UM, NOW AGAIN, IT DOES DEPEND ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. AND AGAIN, WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES HERE, BUT I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY CONFUSION THAT WITH THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES, CAN SOMEONE BE PREVENTED FROM COMING ONTO THE LAUDERDALE LAKES PROPERTY? YES, MADAM MAYOR. SO THE TWO OF YOU, MADAM MAYOR MOMENT, JUST A MOMENT. [05:15:01] THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, MY, MY QUESTION TO CAPTAIN PHILLIPS, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE FORMER CITY MANAGER MADE THAT COMPLAINT, THAT DIRECT REQUEST IN HER OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS CITY MANAGER ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. SO, CORRECT. SO, SO MY QUESTION IS, DID SHE AT THE TIME HAVE THE OPTION TO MAKE THAT A PERSONAL THING JUST FOR HER AS AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON? WAS THAT AN OPTION FOR HER AT THAT TIME? I CAN'T SPEAK TO HER THOUGHT PROCESS AT THAT TIME, HOWEVER, I THINK THE, UM, THE EVENTS THAT LED UP TO IT THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT LED TO HER MAKING THAT DECISION. NO, NO. MADAM MAYOR, MY QUESTION IS, DID SHE HAVE THE OPTION TO DO IT AND FOLLOW IT AS AN INDIVIDUAL? IS THAT AN OPTION? WAS THAT AN OPTION FOR HER AT THAT TIME? OBJECTION. IT COULD HAVE BEEN. IT COULD HAVE BEEN. I DIDN'T HEAR IT. I'M SORRY. YES. YEAH, IT COULD HAVE BEEN, SHE COULD HAVE FILED A RESTRAINING ORDER PERSONALLY. OKAY. HOWEVER, SHE WAS WORKING IN ANY CAPACITY AS THE CITY MANAGER. SHE WASN'T FROM WHAT WE HEARD. SO NOW I CHANGED MY STANCE. I THINK IF SHE'S IN DANGER AND SHE'S NO LONGER HERE, SHE CAN FILE IT PERSONALLY. SO WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND LIFT IT FOR THE CITY. NOBODY HERE IS IN DANGER. LET'S GO AHEAD AND JUST LIFT IT. SHE COULD HAVE FILED, SHE STILL HAS A CHANCE TO FILE THAT PERSONALLY IF SHE FEELS THREATENED. SO LET'S LIFT IT. OH, MY TURN TO TALK. OH WOW. I'M SO SPECIAL. YEAH, I WOULD GO AHEAD AND LIFT THAT BECAUSE SHE'S NO LONGER HERE. SO THE DANGER, SHE WASN'T THE ONE, HUH? SHE WASN'T THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS UP, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT OH YES, HE SAID THAT. UM, RON FELT SOME KIND OF WAY. AND GLENDA, YES. HUH? JUST SO, SO MY QUESTION I NEED FOR SOMETHING. SO IF SOMEONE COMES IN THE, UH, IN MY HERE AND LIKE A RESIDENT AND THEY THREATENED ME, SAID TO ME, YOU KNOW, CAN I PUT, PUT THAT ON THEM? , I NEED TO KNOW, CAN I PUT A ORDER THAT THEY DO NOT COME IN THE CHAMBERS? YOU CAN NAME, YOU CAN. SO CAPTAIN PHILLIPS, NO, I WANTED TO KNOW. I NEED TO KNOW. I KNOW, I KNOW. ALL THINK IN THAT, I THINK IN THAT CAPACITY, YOU SHOULD CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR ADVICE SO HE CAN LEAD YOU ACCORDINGLY. SO DID SHE, IF YOU CALL US, IF YOU CALL US AND ASK US TO GIVE HER YOUR TRESPASS WARNING IN THIS CAPACITY WHILE YOU WORKING IN YOUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY, IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING AS WHAT THE CITY MANAGER TRESSA BROWN STU DID AT THE TIME. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR IT. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, WELL NOW HE'S SAYING THAT THERE'S TWO OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE. SO DOES RON FEEL THAT HE'S IN DANGER THEN? HE, AT THE TIME IT OCCURRED, HE THANKED ME FOR HAVING THEM TWO BE ESCORTED OUT OF THE BUSINESS. HIM ALONG WITH TWO OTHER EMPLOYEES. SO IF RON FEEL LIKE HE'S IN DANGER, WHY IS HE NOT, WHY DID, UM, CAN HE GO AHEAD AND FILE A RESTRAINING ORDER IF HE CHOOSES TO? THAT'S HIS CALL. MADAM MA'AM. COMMISSIONER HARRISON, AGAIN, SAME THING FOR, UH, MY DEAR FRIEND RON AND ANYBODY ELSE, IF THEY FEEL IN DANGER, THEY CAN PERSONALLY FILE THESE THINGS. IS THAT CORRECT? CAPTAIN PHILLIPS? THEY CAN FILE A PERSONAL RESTRAINING ORDER IF THEY CAN. YES, SIR. SO I DON'T WANNA DO THE POLITICS THING OR WHATEVER. I DON'T, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF PEOPLE BEING IN DANGER, BUT SINCE THAT'S HOW IT WORKS, I THINK WE SHOULD LIFT IT. THE PERSON WHO'S ON HERE AS A VICTIM IS TRESSA STUBBS AND SHE NO LONGER WORKS HERE. GLENDA WAS SOMEONE WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THE NARRATIVE, TO THE STORY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. I UNDERSTAND THAT PART. SHE SPOKE WITH HIM AND SHE RELAYED WHAT WAS HEARD. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT A CREDIBLE THREAT. UH, UH, TO VICE MAYOR'S POINT, HE COULD HAVE MEANT ANYTHING BY COMING FOR HER. LISTEN, UH, ONCE IT'S UP FOR INTERPRETATION, I WOULD'VE PERCEIVED AS A THREAT TOO. BUT MY THING IS THAT SHE'S NO LONGER HERE AND THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE PERSON IN DANGER AND SHE STILL HAS THE LUXURY OF FILING THE RESTRAINING ORDER AS AN INDIVIDUAL. IT'S NOT TOO LATE FOR THAT. I KNOW WHAT SHE'S GONNA SAY. IT'S UP TO US. IT'S MY CALL. YEP. I KNOW IT'S YOUR CALL. IT'S NOT MY CALL TO ME. GOT YOU. IT'S YOUR CALL. I, I SAY GO AHEAD AND, UH, MR. MAX WILLIAMS. THANK YOU MAD MAYOR. I SAY GO AHEAD AND LIFT IT. LETS MOVE. YEAH. LIFT THE ORDER. YOU MADAM MAYOR, IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO LIFT IT, WE CAN HAVE A DEPUTY COME OUT TOMORROW. THEY CAN DO AN OFFICIAL REPORT AND HAVE IT LIFTED. THAT'S HOW IT, I I I ALSO THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE LIFTED. I THINK IF THERE ARE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE FEELING THREATENED STILL, THEN THEY DO HAVE THE OPTION THAT YOU JUST PROVIDED. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONERS ITEM NUMBER FIVE. I'M PULLING THAT. SHE, SHE'S N PULLING. GO AHEAD. GOD BLESS YOU MADAM VICE MAYOR FIVE N. DISCUSSION REGARDING OUTSTANDING LIENS FOR OREO PLAZA. MADAM VICE MAYOR, SPONSORED BY VICE MAYOR. MAYOR MADAM VICE MAYOR. AND I'M PULLING THAT, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. PUT A SMILE ON MS. DODGE'S FACE. GOD BLESS. GOD BLESS YOU. GOD BLESS YOU. [05:20:02] ITEM [A.  PETITIONS FROM THE PUBLIC] SIX, HOLD ON PLEASE. UH, MADAM, UH, COMMISSION ITEM SIX REPORTS. THERE ARE NO PETITIONS FROM THE PUBLIC. MADAM MAYOR, I APOLOGIZE MADAM. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU, MADAM. HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. NO, WHAT HAPPENED? OH, UH, MS. HALL, I DID NOT SEE YOU. THIS IS FROM THE, YOU KNOW, PRIOR MEETINGS. OH, OKAY. PETITION FROM THE PUBLIC. OKAY. IS THAT WHAT THIS IS? MS. HALL? UM, THIS IS PETITION FROM THE PUBLIC. YES, MA'AM. I'M GONNA BE BRIEF. MAYOR NICOLE HALL PRECEDENCE HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. UM, JUST REALLY QUICKLY, FIRST, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT JUST HAPPENED BECAUSE IF THERE WAS NO AFFIDAVIT SIGNED, WHAT IS BEING LEFT? WHAT WAS THE CONSENSUS TO BE LIFTED IF THERE WAS NOTHING IN PLACE? BUT I WON'T BELABOR THAT POINT. I'LL JUST LEAVE EVERYONE TO THINK ABOUT IT. UM, SECONDLY, FORMER VICE MAYOR, MARK SPENCE ASKED ME TO ASK A QUESTION AND THAT'S WHY I INSISTED ON, UH, HE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, ARE YOU ALL IN REGARDS TO FIVE E? ARE YOU ALL GOING TO ESTABLISH A COMMUNITY BOARD FOR HIRING THE CITY MANAGER? CAN YOU ASK THEM? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND, UM, MY, ANOTHER QUESTION, JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE, THE MOU FOR JAG, UM, I THOUGHT I HEARD FINANCE SAY THAT THIS WAS OUR FIRST TIME GETTING IT. UM, AND I WAS PRETTY SURE THAT WE HAVE DONE IT ALREADY. UM, I'M ALMOST SURE WE HAVE. WE HAD A MOU ON JAG PRIOR, MAYBE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. UH, THIRD AND LAST IS 5G, UM, IN THE AMOUNT OF THE PARK FOR THE 249,804. UM, IF THERE ARE UNFORESEEN ISSUES TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER, UM, I WANTED TO KNOW WHERE THE BACKUP ADDENDUM OR THE SPECS, UM, BECAUSE I BELIEVE AGAIN, THAT I HEARD FINANCE SAY THAT THEY HAD ANTICIPATED ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UM, FOR ISSUES THAT MAY COME UP. UM, AND FOR THE ELEVATOR, UM, ITEM NUMBER, MS. HALL, ITEM NUMBER, UH, H FIVE H, UM, THAT $300,000 THAT WAS FUNDED WASN'T THAT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF, I BELIEVE IT WAS FUNDED IN LIKE 22 OR 23. I, I SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER, UM, A MEETING, UH, WHERE WE RECEIVED THAT FUNDING. AND I WAS, I, I'M NOT GONNA BE LABORED BECAUSE I'M COMMISSIONER. UH, MOST RECENT COMMISSIONER, UM, HARRIS MENTIONED IT ALREADY ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF WE GOT THE FUNDING IN SO MANY YEARS AGO, I JUST FELT THAT IT WAS CALLOUS IN, UM, THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE, UH, BROUGHT THE NOW ACTION, UM, TO THE COMMISSION. UH, THAT WAS IT. BUT, UM, TO GO BACK TO MY FIRST SITUATION THAT CONCERNS ME, I JUST WOULD LIKE FOR THE COMMISSION TO KNOW OR TO HAVE BSO OUTLINE WHAT CONSTITUTE A THREAT. UM, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY, IN PUBLIC IN GENERAL, WHO, UM, CAN BE PETTY OR JUST CONTENTIOUS FOR WHATEVER REASON. UM, ALSO THERE NEEDS TO BE, UM, SOME SORT OF PROOF. UM, EVERYONE KNOWS WHEN YOU GO TO FILE A RESTRAINING ORDER, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PROOF THAT, UH, THE PERSON BOTHERED YOU, UM, OR RIGHT. BUT THE OPTION OF HE OR HIM OR HER HAVING AN OPTION TO FILE A RESTRAINING ORDER, THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT WHAT WE ARE DOING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT THIS IS THE PUBLIC'S HOUSE. EACH OF YOU WERE ELECTED, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD. AND I'LL GO SO FAR AS TO SAY THIS, IF A RESIDENT CAN'T COME HERE THAT PAYS TAXES THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE BOTTOM LINE, THEN IT'S BETTER IF WE DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO TAKE AWAY FROM THE BOTTOM LINE SO THAT THE RESIDENT CAN COME TO CITY HALL AND THE CITY IN WHICH THEY LIVE. I FIND THAT TO BE A HUGE PROBLEM. UM, NOW I'LL ALSO GO AS FAR AS TO SAY, I THINK THIS MATTER SHOULD NOT HAVE NECESSARILY BEEN DEALT WITH HERE, UM, IN FRONT OF ALL OF US. I THINK [05:25:01] THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN HASHED OUT, UM, BEHIND CLOSED DOORS BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT WE OWE IT TO OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL AS STAFF, AS WELL AS, UM, CONTRACTUAL EMPLOYEES THAT, UM, AS THE CAPTAIN OF THE POLICE FORCE, THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL OF, UM, RESPECT THAT HAS TO BE AFFORDED TO HIM. UM, ALSO I BELIEVE THAT BOTH PARTIES, MEANING THE, THE DEUS AS ONE COMBINED GROUP AS WELL AS, UH, CAPTAIN PHILLIPS IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE WOULD TAKE A LOWER GROUND AND A GROUND OF PUTTING THE PUBLIC FIRST IN, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE RESOLVE AND COME TO A RESOLUTION FOR ISSUES THAT, OF THAT NATURE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. YEAH. UM, I, I FEEL A BIT EMBARRASSED, UM, YOU KNOW, AS A RESIDENT IN THE CITY THAT WE BROUGHT OUR CAPTAIN UP HERE, AND I WISH HE WOULD'VE HANDLED IT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. I THANK YOU MS. HALL. GOODNIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NIGHT NIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.