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          [1.  CALL TO ORDER]
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          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, . 
          THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR ATTENDING OUR CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP THIS AFTERNOON. 
          MEETING IS NOT CALLED TO ORDER. 
          MADAM CLERK ROLL CALL, PLEASE HANG ON. 
          MAYOR EDWARDS PHILLIPS. 
          HERE, VICE MAYOR. 
          SWELL PRESENT. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRISON, PRESENT, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. PRESENT. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS, ACTING CITY MANAGER HOWARD PRESENT CITY ATTORNEY CALLAWAY PRESENT. 
          MADAM MAYOR, WE HAVE A CORUM. 
          THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 
          [REVIEW OF THE JUNE 24, 2025 CITY COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA]
ITEM THREE, DISCUSSION REVIEW OF THE JUNE 24TH, 2025 CITY COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA. 
          MADAM MANAGER, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          TO THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE ONLINE, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, A CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCES ON SECOND READING ORDINANCE 2025 DASH EIGHT AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO SIGNAGE AMENDING CHAPTER NINE OF THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, REVISING SECTION 9 0 3 DEFINITIONS TO UPDATE THE DEFINITION OF SNIPE, SIGN AND ADD DEFINITIONS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER PERSON AND PUBLIC PROPERTY, CREATING NEW SUBSECTIONS. 
          NINE 11.2 DASH NINE 11.4 TO ESTABLISH PURPOSE AND INTENT PROHIBITED CONDUCT ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS, PENALTIES, APPEALS, AND EXEMPTIONS. 
          MADAM MAYOR, WE DO HAVE MS. TANJA MCCOY TO PREVENT INFORMATION ON THIS ITEM. 
          THANK YOU, MS. TANJA. 
          GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR TANJA TANJA MCCOY. 
          UM, FOR THE RECORD, GOOD EVENING VICE MAYOR . 
          I'M SORRY. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          . 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. 
          GOOD EVENING, CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY CLERK. 
          UM, I AM HERE TO GO OVER THE ITEM 25 0 0 8 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA RELATED TO SIGNAGE AMENDMENT. 
          AND THIS SIGNAGE AMENDMENT IS AN AMENDMENT TO OUR CHAPTER NINE, UM, WHICH SPECIFICALLY SECTION 9 0 3 WHERE WE, UH, TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DIVINE DEFINE SNIPE SIGNS, UM, TO INCREASE THE ABILITY TO, UH, ENFORCE OUR CURRENT CODE WHERE WE HAVE A, A MORE DETAILED DEFINITION REGARDING SNIPE SIGNS REQUIRING THAT SNIPE SIGNS ARE IDENTIFIED AS ANY SIGNS THAT ARE POSTED ON, UM, POLLS OR PLACED IN OUR CITY RIGHT OF WAY THAT ARE RELATED TO A BUSINESS ADVERTISEMENT. 
          AND THOSE SIGNS WILL BE, UM, PENALIZED MORE HARSHLY IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS AND YEARS, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO ALSO REGARD THOSE SIGNS AS LITTER. 
          AND UNDER THAT, UH, REQUIREMENT, WE CAN TREAT THEM AS LITTER AND, UM, INCREASE OUR ABILITY TO CHARGE FINES FOR THESE BUSINESSES THAT VIOLATE OUR CODE IN OUR CITY. 
          SO, UM, THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE SNIP SIGN ORDINANCE. 
          AND IN THIS ORDINANCE, AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE SIGNS WILL BE FINE, UM, A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE, WHICH WOULD BE PER SIGN. 
          UM, WE ARE ALSO PLANNING TO DO SOME ADVERTISING AND SOME CAMPAIGNS TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE BUSINESSES ARE AWARE OF THIS NEW CODE OR ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO PLACE. 
          AND THEN AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME, WE WOULD START ENFORCING IT. 
          AND ON THE SECOND OFFENSE, THEY WILL BE CHARGED $250 
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PER SIGN AND IT WILL GO UP FROM THERE TO $500 PER SIGN. 
          WITH THAT IN PLACE, IT WILL GIVE US SOME TEETH IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES BECAUSE WE HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE SPENDING A GREAT DEAL OF THEIR DAY JUST REMOVING THESE SIGNS FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          AND AS SOON AS THEY, UM, REMOVE THOSE SIGNS, THEY GET PUT BACK DOWN. 
          SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WE WANTED TO INCREASE OUR ORDINANCE AND GIVE US SOME OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FEES AND FINES. 
          AGAIN, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD EXEMPT ANY POLITICAL SIGNS. 
          SO THIS IS POLITICAL SIGNS ARE NOT A PART OF THIS NEW REQUIREMENT AT ALL. 
          GOOD QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES. 
          I HAVE NONE. 
          I JUST WANT NO QUESTION MS. TANGER, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE BUSINESS IMPACT ESTIMATE FORM WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. 
          IT GAVE A SUMMARY AND IT ALSO GAVE THE REASONS WHY THE SIGNS WERE NECESSARY. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INCLUDING THAT IN THE BACKUP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MADAM MANAGER. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          RESOLUTION ITEM NUMBER NINE, A CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS ON CONSENT, AGENDA RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 79 APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING A SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT AWARD TO ALL COUNTY STAFF IN INC. 
          IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES PROCUREMENT CODE SECTION 82 DASH 3 58 B. 
          FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND DEPUTY CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE AND ATTEST RESPECTIVELY THAT CERTAIN CONTRACT TO ALL COUNTY STAFFING INC. 
          TO PROVIDE LICENSED REGISTERED NURSES, LICENSED PRACTICAL NURSES, CERTIFIED NURSING ASSISTANCE, AND IN-HOME RESPITE CARE SERVICES ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS FOR THE ALZHEIMER'S CARE CENTER IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $60,000. 
          AND MISS, UM, ERICA LOCKETT WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND MS. BOBBY WILLIAMS IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THROUGH YOU. 
          MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU BOBBY AND MS. ERICA, OR MS. ERICA AND MS. BOBBY. 
          GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, UH, CITY COMMISSIONERS, CITY ATTORNEY, UH, CITY MANAGER, UH, UH, CD CITY CLERK, OUR STAFF, AND TO OUR GUESTS FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS BOBBY WILLIAMS, THE DIRECTOR FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES. 
          AND, UH, THIS ITEM, UH, FOR TOMORROW NIGHT IS REQUESTING A RESOLUTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO THE ALL COUNTY STAFFING. 
          WE HAD A INFORMATION SESSION WITH YOU ON JUNE 9TH AND, UH, WE WERE, UH, EXPLAINING THE NATURE OF THE PURCHASE, WHICH WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION TO THE PROCUREMENT POLICY. 
          WE'RE HOPING TO ENTER INTO A SOLE, I'M SORRY, A SINGLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT WITH THE ALL COUNTY STAFFING, UH, INCORPORATED. 
          UH, THE COMPANY, ALL COUNTY STAFFING PROVIDES NURSES TO THE CITY. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO THE CITY'S, UH, HEART AND TO THE CORE OF WHAT WE PROVIDE TO OUR CITY IN TERMS OF SUPPORTING THE ALZHEIMER CARE CENTER. 
          UH, CURRENTLY, UH, DUE TO THE INCREASE IN THE USE OF THE IN-HOME RESPITE CARE PROGRAM, WE'VE EXPENDED THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORIZATION OR AT LEAST CLOSE TO EXPENDING HER AUTHORIZATION. 
          UH, SO WE'RE ASKING TOMORROW WE'LL BE ASKING FOR JUST AN INCREASE IN THE AUTHORIZATION. 
          UH, SO WHEN WE'RE USING THOSE NURSES, EITHER FOR THE ALZHEIMER PROGRAM OR FOR ANY OTHER PROGRAMS, WE DO HAVE THAT AUTHORIZATION AVAILABLE. 
          UH, WE'RE ASKING TO INCREASE THE AUTHORIZATION FROM THE 24,999,000 UP TO 60,000. 
          THAT'S JUST AN AUTHORIZATION, NOT A PROMISE TO PAY, BUT JUST IF WE NEED THAT LEVEL OF STAFFING TO COMPLETE THOSE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE THAT REQUIRE NURSING STAFF AT THIS TIME, I COULD, UH, YIELD TO ERICA TO PROVIDE ANY OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          SARAH, GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. 
          MADAM MADAM, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, UM, ACTING CITY MANAGER AND CITY CLERK FOR THE RECORD. 
          ERICA LOCKETT, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND HUMAN SERVICES. 
          UM, MS. BOBBY DID A GREAT JOB AS AT EXPLAINING, UM, THE ITEM, BUT WE DO, UM, UTILIZE THE NURSING STAFF FOR OUR IN-HOME RESPITE AND OUR IN FACILITY RESPITE THAT TAKES THE PLACE OF OUR PROGRAM SPECIALISTS AND OUR LPM. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE, UM, BODIES IN THE FACILITIES DURING OPERATING TIME. 
          SO I CAN ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE OF ME. 
          I HAVE NOT. 
          JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION, MS. ERICA. 
          WILL S WILL RESPITE SERVICES BE PROVIDED OVER THE WEEKEND? NO, WE DON'T. 
          WE ARE NOT OPERATING OUR SATURDAY PROGRAM AS OF YET BECAUSE THAT'S OUR OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MS. ERICA. 
          THANK YOU MS. BOBBY. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          MADAM, MADAM MAYOR. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER SHARON THOMAS IS ONLINE FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          ITEM NINE B 
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RESOLUTION 2025 DASH EIGHT ZERO PROVEN IN AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF A REPLACEMENT PLAYGROUND SYSTEM FOR THE OTIS GRAY NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, LOCATED AT 4,800 NORTHWEST 26TH STREET IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 227,009 $94 AND 37 CENTS FROM PLAY CORE WISCONSIN INC. 
          DBA GAME TIME UTILIZING AN OMNIA COOPERATIVE CONTRACT, WHICH WAS COMPETITIVELY SOLICITED BY THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA, FURTHER AUTHORIZING AN ADDITIONAL 10% CONTINGENCY IN THE AMOUNT OF $22,709 AND 44 CENTS FOR A TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF $249,803 AND 81 CENTS. 
          AND MS. BOBBY WILLIAMS IS HERE TO PRESENT THAT ITEM. 
          NO, I THOUGHT I HEARD A, AN ECHO WHERE SOMEONE VIRTUALLY, I PERHAPS MUTE THAT PERSON WAS MUTED. 
          MAD MAYOR. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME, MS. BOBBY. 
          THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THE RECORD. 
          BOBBY WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES AND THIS ITEM ON TOMORROW NIGHT IS REQUESTING A, A PURCHASE OF THE REPLACEMENT PLAYGROUND AT OUR OTIS GRAY NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. 
          UH, AS YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THE, THE, UH, PREVIOUS PLAYGROUND SYSTEM WAS REMOVED DUE TO, UH, DAMAGE OR ITS CONDITION PER, UH, CREATED A UNSAFE, UH, UH, ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR FAMILIES. 
          UH, SO WE FINALLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, REVIEW THE NECESSITY OF IMPROVING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AS WELL AS ENSURING THAT WE MAINTAIN THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE, UH, FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING TO, WELL, THE CITY IS ASKING TO PURCHASE THE REPLACEMENT PLAYGROUND SYSTEM, UH, WITH AN EXCEPTION USING A COOPERATIVE CONTRACT, WHICH IS, OR WHICH WAS, UH, COMPETITIVELY BID, UM, USING THE OMNIA CO COOPERATIVE, UH, WITH THE LEAD AGENCY BEING HIS S ALERT, UH, NORTH CAROLINA. 
          UH, AS MS, UH, AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PLAYGROUND SYSTEM IS ESTIMATED AT $227,000. 
          UH, DUE TO THE AGE OF THE EQUIPMENT AND THE AGE OF THE PARK, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE A CONTINGENCY, UH, VALUED AT 10% OR $22,710 FOR A TOTAL BUDGET OF THIS REPLACEMENT SYSTEM BEING $249,803. 
          UM, AT THIS TIME, UM, I COULD ENTERTAIN ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AND I ALSO HAVE THE, UH, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND HUMAN SERVICES WITH ME AS WELL TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THE PURCHASE COLLEAGUES. 
          I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY 'CAUSE I DO MUCH ABOUT THATAM MADAM MAYOR? YES, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE NO QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE PURCHASE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I KNOW AT THE LAST DISCUSSION, UH, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHETHER THE, THE ACTUAL TURF IS GONNA BE SAND OR ACTUAL TURF TYPE OF MATERIAL, AND, UM, I GOT SOME FOLLOW UP TO SAY THAT'S EXACTLY THE ROUTE WE'RE GOING, SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. 
          I KNOW RON CAN NO COME, UH, THROUGH THE MADAM MAYOR OF COURSE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO JUST GET CLARITY. 
          UH, I THANK YOU, BY THE WAY. 
          UM, AGAIN, SAND IS LIKE NOT AS POPULAR, BUT IF YOU CAN JUST HELP US UNDERSTAND THE TYPE OF TURF IS COMING, JUST SO WE KNOW THE SCIENCE BEHIND IT AND STUFF. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRISON, THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          DON'T GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH MAYOR AND MADAM MANAGER. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          YEAH, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MANAGER. 
          MR. DIS BRUNI, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE AN EXPLANATION, WE WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MANAGER. 
          GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. 
          UH, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, MADAM MANAGER. 
          UM, MR. SIR, CLERK AND THE AUDIENCE, UH, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS EZ BRO, PORT DIRECTOR. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          UH, LIKE YOU STATED, THE, IN THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, THE ARGUMENT WAS WHETHER THE, THE BASE WAS GONNA BE SENT, BUT, UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS IT'S NOT GOING GOING TO BE SAID, IT'S GONNA BE RUBBER SURFACE, WHICH IS AN ABSORBENT. 
          AND ALSO, I, UH, SAID THAT I WAS GONNA CHECK WHETHER THE PRICE WOULD BE MODIFIED BASED ON THAT, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT'S PART OF THE PRICE CURRENTLY. 
          UH, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ADD ANYTHING THAT'S PART OF THE, THE WHOLE PACKAGE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. BROWN. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MANAGER. 
          YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME, MADAM MAYOR. 
          ITEM NUMBER NINE C RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 81 APPROVING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR THE 2022 EDWARD BY MEMORIAL JUSTICE ASSISTANT GRANT PROGRAM FROM THE BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE AMOUNT OF $25,568. 
          AND WE DO HAVE MS. BOBBY WILLIAMS THAT WILL PRESENT ON THIS ITEM THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY. 
          THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THE RECORD. 
          UH, BOBBY WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES, AND THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE ITEMS FOR TONIGHT, UH, BECAUSE IT DOES BRING 
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FUNDING TO OUR CITY TO, UH, FUND ONE OF OUR CORE ACTIVITIES, WHICH IS PUBLIC SAFETY, OF COURSE. 
          UH, SO, UH, BACK, UH, A FEW YEARS AGO, THE CITY COMMISSION DID APPROVE OR ACCEPT THE JUSTICE JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT, WHICH WE REFER TO AS JACK. 
          UH, AFTER WE ACCEPT THE GRANT, UH, THERE'S A PROCESS WHERE WE GO THROUGH TO, UM, UH, ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT OR THE, UH, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. 
          IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BECAUSE U-S-D-O-J, UH, US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, UH, HAD SOME LEGAL CONCERNS OR LEGAL, UH, CHANGES IN THEIR, UM, COMPLIMENT. 
          AND SO IT JUST TOOK A VERY LONG TIME FOR US TO ACTUALLY GET THE MOU OR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. 
          SO WE'RE FINALLY AT THAT POINT, UH, WHERE WE HAVE, UH, THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FROM, UH, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, AND WE'LL BE, UH, ENTERING TO THAT AGREEMENT WITH BSO AS WELL, UH, SO THAT WE COULD FINALLY EXECUTE THIS JAG, UH, THIS JAG GRANT, UM, THE GROSS AMOUNT OF THE AWARD THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY BASED UPON OUR POPULATION WAS 25,568. 
          UH, BECAUSE BSO IS THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THIS GRANT, UH, THE, UH, WAR DID ALLOW 7% OF OUR ALLOCATION TO GO BACK TO BSO FOR ADMINISTRATION. 
          UH, THIS AMOUNT WAS, UH, VALUED AT ONE THOUSAND ONE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED NINETY FOUR DOLLARS AND 87 CENTS, UH, LEAVING THE CITY WITH A NET AWARD OF $23,773. 
          UH, TYPICALLY, UM, FOR THE JAG GRANT 'CAUSE SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, UH, WE, UH, ALWAYS, UH, JUST APPLY OUR OVERTIME, UM, TO THE GRANT. 
          HOWEVER, THE OFFICIAL, UM, THE OFFICIAL, UH, REASONING FOR THE GRANT IS TO APPROVE OVERTIME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH CRIME REDUCTION OPERATIONS, UH, THROUGH THE APPLICATION OF RESOURCES TO SURVEILLANCE OPERATIONS, DECOY OPERATIONS, OR AREA SATURATION WITH A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY WITHIN IDENTIFIED AREAS. 
          WITH THAT BEING SAID, I CAN DEFER TO CAPTAIN PHILLIPS TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF THE POLICE OPERATIONS. 
          CAPTAIN PHILLIPS, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR COMMISSION, CITY ATTORNEY. 
          CITY MANAGER. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR, UM, GRANT, WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS ONE. 
          I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, SEE WHICH ONE THIS ACTUALLY IS. 
          BUT, UM, THIS IS THE ONE WHERE WE WANT TO USE THESE FUNDS TO ACTUALLY HELP US ATTACK AND BE PROACTIVE AS FAR AS IT RELATES TO BURGLARIES AND ROBBERIES. 
          UM, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN THE KIDS ARE OUTTA SCHOOL AND, UM, THEY HAVE THAT EXTRA TIME, YOU KNOW, THE JUVENILES AND THOSE YOUNG ADULTS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE MORE CONSISTENTLY BEING INVOLVED IN CRIMES OF THIS NATURE JUST BECAUSE OF THE IDLE TIME THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR HANDS. 
          SO, UM, WE WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO USE THESE FUNDS TO SET UP A DIRECT PATROL IN THE OPERATIONAL PLAN SO WE CAN TARGET THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO REALLY KIND OF LIKE, UM, ISOLATE THAT CRIMINAL ELEMENT AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT OUR GOOD KIDS WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE RIGHT THING. 
          SO WE GET THAT SURVEILLANCE AND THOSE EXTRA RESOURCES WE NEED SO WE CAN REALLY PINPOINT WHERE THE REAL PROBLEM IS, AS OPPOSED TO BRINGING OUR GOOD KIDS INTO THE FOLD WHO MAY JUST BE IN THE COMMUNITY OR OF THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT ACTUALLY BEING INVOLVED IN ANY TYPE OF DELINQUENT BEHAVIOR. 
          SO THIS IS GONNA BE A GOOD TOOL TO HELP US, UM, TAKE CARE OF THOSE SPECIFIC NEEDS. 
          ANY QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES? NO QUESTIONS? NO, NONE FOR ME. 
          THANK YOU, CAPTAIN PHILLIPS. 
          MS. BOBBY, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. 
          I REALLY HAVE ONE DEFINITION ON THE MOU. 
          IT STATES THAT WHEREAS BROWARD COUNTY HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A DISPARATE COUNTY, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? UH, UH, YOU'LL GET BACK TO US, UH, THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, I'LL GET BACK TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR OUR COUNTY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          THAT CONCLUDES THE REVIEW OF OUR CITY COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA, 
          [A.  DISCUSSION REGARDING CONTRACT AWARD TO GELIN BENEFITS GROUP FOR THE PURPOSES OF PROVIDING INSURANCE BROKERAGE SERVICES FOR THE CITY'S EMPLOYEE BENEFITS PLAN (5:30 P.M. TIME CERTAIN)]
AND NOW WE WILL REVIEW OUR CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP AGENDA, STARTING WITH ITEM NUMBER FIVE, A DISCUSSION REGARDING CONTRACT AWARD TO GALLEN BENEFITS GROUP FOR THE PURPOSES OF PROVIDING INSURANCE BROKERAGE SERVICES FOR THE CITY'S EMPLOYEE BENEFITS PLAN. 
          UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A TIME CERTAIN OF 5:30 PM UM, SO I'M NOT SURE MS. BOBBY, IF THAT INDIVIDUAL 
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IS HERE OR ONLINE. 
          NO, IF NOT, THEY'RE NOT HERE. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          WILL THEY BE PRESENT? WILL SOMEONE BE PRESENT? UH, NEXT MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          SUE YOU MAD OF MAY, MAY, MS. BOBBY WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, AGAIN FOR THE RECORD. 
          BOBBY WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES, AND THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION OR INFORMATION ON TONIGHT. 
          UM, MADAM MAYOR, UH, THE CITY DID ISSUE A FORMAL SOLICITATION TO, UH, TO, UH, SOLICIT SERVICES FOR OUR INSURANCE BROKER. 
          THE INSURANCE BROKER WORKS WITH THE INSURANCE CARRIERS TO GET US THE BEST, UH, EMPLOYEE HEALTH BENEFITS. 
          THE CITY DID ISSUE A SOLICITATION, UM, EXCUSE ME, ON FEBRUARY 28TH, UH, 2025 UNTIL MAY 2ND, 2025. 
          THE SOLICITATION WAS PROVIDED TO JUST A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND FIRMS, AND THERE WERE 29 PLAN HOLDERS. 
          UH, THE SOLICITATION WAS FURTHER OUT ADVERTISED, EXCUSE ME, IN THE SUN CENTINEL NEWSPAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION ON BOTH MARCH 9TH AND MARCH 21ST, UH, 2025 ON MAY 20. 
          ON MAY 2ND, UH, THE, THE SOLICITATION WAS DEC DECLARED CLOSED AND PROPOSALS OPENED. 
          THE CITY DID RECEIVE THREE PROPOSALS FROM GILLAND BENEFITS GROUP FROM FLORIDA MUNICIPAL INSURANCE TRUST, OR FMIT, AND THE USI INSURANCE SERVICES, LLC. 
          THE CD FURTHER CONDUCTED AN EVALUATION OF THE THREE PROPOSALS, AND THE RESULTS YIELDED AS FOLLOWS, GIL AND BENEFITS WITH A TOTAL SCORE OF 263 USI INSURANCE SERVICES WITH A TOTAL SCORE OF 226 AND THE FLORIDA MUNICIPAL INSURANCE TRUST, OR FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES WITH A SCORE OF THREE, UH, IF, IF, IF, IF ACCEPTED. 
          UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING, BRING THIS ITEM TO YOU AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING AS A REQUEST FOR RESOLUTION OR CONTRACT AWARD TO GALA BENEFITS GROUP, WHO'S CURRENTLY OUR CURRENT BROKER. 
          AND WE WOULD, UH, AGAIN, UH, JUST, UH, LIKE TO RECOMMEND THEM FOR AWARD, UH, BECAUSE THEY DID SCORE THE HIGHEST. 
          UH, ONE OF THE, UH, HIGHEST CATEGORIES THAT THEY DID, UH, PERFORM IN WAS, WAS THEIR APPROACH, UH, TO, UH, PERFORMANCE. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS WAS EVALUATED, UM, BY THREE INDEPENDENT, UH, EMPLOYEES, NOT MYSELF. 
          AND, UH, THEY HAD THE, UH, BEST APPROACH, UH, FOR THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES. 
          UM, I CAN ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. 
          AND ALSO, DO WE HAVE MS. TARA AVAILABLE ON THE DIRECTOR TARA WILLIAMS? I'M SORRY, ARE YOU MADAM MAYOR? I CAN ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. 
          TRUE. 
          YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. SO BOBBY, HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN USING GILLUM GILLIN  GROUPS? HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN OUR, OUR BROKER OKAY. 
          FOR YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          THEY'VE BEEN OUR BROKER FOR ABOUT, FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS NOW, SO THANK TO YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          SO, UM, I, WE'RE GONNA WORK ON GETTING A GOOD INSURANCE BECAUSE THEY ARE TO BE BLAMED FOR THE LAST ONE THAT WE HAVE THAT IS REALLY, REALLY BAD. 
          SO I'M HOPING THAT THEY'LL FOCUS ON REALLY GUYS GETTING SOMETHING VERY GOOD FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AND BRINGING IT TO US IN A TIMELY MANNER THAT WE CAN REVIEW IT AND THE PROS AND CONS ON THE OTHER INSURANCE THAT WE CAN MAKE A GOOD DECISION AND NOT HAVE. 
          YOU REMEMBER, WE WERE RUSHING AND THEN WE HAD TO HAVE EMERGENCY MEETING. 
          WE DON'T WANT THAT THIS YEAR. 
          PLEASE, YOU, MADAM MAYOR, THAT IS A GREAT CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE. 
          UH, I HAVE THE, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF HR LISTENING IN ON THIS, ON THIS MEETING. 
          AND TYPICALLY THE BROKER WORKS WITH THE CITY, ALONG WITH THE INSURANCE CARRIERS TO OFFER US THE BEST BENEFITS. 
          UH, ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE TALKING POINTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD WITH THE INTERIM DIRECTOR IS TO, UM, EXPLORE DIFFERENT BENEFITS FOR THE CITY. 
          UH, SO RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT BROKER HAS ALREADY STARTED, UH, HIS, HIS FORMAL SOLICITATION PROCESS TO, UH, GUIDE HIS PROCESS ON GETTING THOSE, UH, PREMIUMS BACK IN TERMS OF WHAT IT'LL COST IF WE WERE TO REMAIN THE SAME OR ADD ANYTHING TO IT. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU BOBBY. 
          WE DON'T WANT THE SAME THING LIKE THIS, UH, THREE MADAM MAYOR, WE ARE DOING OUR BEST ALL. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. 
          KEEP, KEEP IN MIND THAT THE, THE, THE BENEFITS, UH, DO DRIVE OUR PREMIUMS FOR THE CITY. 
          RIGHT NOW, THE CITY OFFERS ITS EMPLOYEES BENEFITS AT 100% AND I BELIEVE IT'S 70% FOR OUR DEPENDENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU BOBBY. 
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MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER THOMAS HAS A QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS, SHE COMMISSIONER. 
          CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES, YES. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, MY QUESTION WAS SIMILAR TO COMMISSIONER CARLEEN, MAXWELL WILLIAMS. UM, IN TERMS, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISAGREEMENT WITH LAST YEAR'S CARRIER, ALTHOUGH I DON'T HAVE IT, BUT I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISAGREEMENT AND FOR A TIMELY MANNER TO, YOU KNOW, ALLOW, UH, THE COMMISSION TO CHOOSE WISELY WHAT IS BEST FOR THE, UM, THE EMPLOYEES HERE IN LAUDERDALE LAKES. 
          SO I'M HAPPY THAT THIS IS BEING BROUGHT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. 
          SO THAT ENOUGH TIME IS GIVEN FOR US TO CHOOSE IN THE END. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MS. BOBBY, I ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS AND COMMISSIONER THOMAS SAID, I DO RECALL LAST YEAR WE WERE REALLY UNDER THE GUN LAST YEAR AND DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DISCUSS AND TO GIVE INPUT IN REFERENCE TO SOME OF THE BENEFITS, EXCUSE ME, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDED TO, TO THE PACKAGE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STARTING THIS AT AN EARLIER TIME SO THAT WE CAN HAVE INPUT AS FAR AS THE BROKER AND AS FAR AS THE CARRIER IS CONCERNED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MS. BOBBY. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          MS. WILLIAMS IS ONLINE AND SHE HAS CONFIRMED THAT SHE HAS HEARD YOUR CONCERNS. 
          WE KNOW THIS WAS AN ISSUE, UM, LAST YEAR, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO ENSURE, BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT WE, UM, START THE PROCESS EARLY SO THAT YOU WILL HAVE, UM, TIME TO WEIGH IN AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, SUGGESTIONS, AND JUST, UM, BE A PART OF THE PROCESS BY THE MAYOR. 
          MS. TARA IS VIRTUAL. 
          SHE IS. 
          AND SHE IS, UM, ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY, MAY HAVE. 
          NO, JUST WANT TO, UM, NO, NO QUESTIONS. 
          JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF SHE REFERRED TO AND IF SHE HAD ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT. 
          GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY MANAGER AND CITY CLERK FOR THE RECORD. 
          TARA TARA WILLIAMS, INTERIM HR, UH, HR MANAGER. 
          SORRY. 
          MANAGER, DIRECTOR. 
          UM, NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, ANY, THE ONLY COMMENT I WILL, I HAVE IS THAT I HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND I'M GOING TO ENSURE THAT WE, UM, PROVIDE ADEQUATE TIME FOR OUR, UM, OPEN ENROLLMENT PROCESS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. TAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MANAGER. 
          YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME. 
          [B.  DISCUSSION REGARDING RENAMING THE MULTIPURPOSE AUDITORIUM AFTER BROWARD COUNTY COMMISSIONER HAZELLE ROGERS (SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER MAXWELL-WILLIAMS)]
ITEM NUMBER FIVE B, DISCUSSION REGARDING RENAMING THE MULTIPURPOSE AUDITORIUM AFTER BROWARD COUNTY COMMISSIONER HAZEL ROGERS. 
          THIS ITEM IS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS, THE YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          SO PREVIOUSLY AT OUR LAST COMMISSIONER MEETING, WE DISCUSSED AND WE WERE HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PARK OR THE MULTIPURPOSE CENTER AND, UM, OUR COM UH, THE COMMISSIONER ROGERS SENT AN EMAIL STATING THAT SHE PREFERRED THE, UM, MULTIPURPOSE CENTER. 
          SO, UM, PRETTY MUCH HOPING THAT WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON MOVING FORWARD WITH NAMING THE MULTIPURPOSE CENTER, HIS OR P ROGERS COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          ANY COMMENTS? ANY QUESTIONS? I'M IN FAVOR. 
          SORRY. 
          I'M IN FAVOR. 
          MAD MAYOR. 
          UH, SO AM I'M, UH, AND MOVING, UH, FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS. 
          AND MAD MANAGER, CAN YOU HAVE SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN FROM THIS POINT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS? YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE DO HAVE MR. RON DIS BRUNE THAT CAN PROVIDE FURTHER INFORMATION. 
          THANK YOU, MR. TO YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          MR. RON? YES. 
          THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN. 
          GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR PROTOCOL ESTABLISHED, UH, UH, TO YOUR ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MADAM MAYOR, ONCE, UH, ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, UH, ONE COMMISSIONER OR ANY COMMISSIONER CAN MAKE THE REQUEST TO RENAME A FACILITY. 
          ONCE THIS IS DONE, UH, THE CITY COMMISSIONER WILL DIRECT THE ACTING CITY MANAGER TO, TO BEGIN THE PROCESS, MEANING PUT IT A COMMITTEE TOGETHER, UH, PREFERABLY WITH THE, THE ADVISORY BOARD OR ANY OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBER TO REVIEW THE REQUEST AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION. 
          AND ULTIMATELY, UH, THERE WILL BE AN ORDINANCE, 
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UM, TO BE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE, BY THE BOARD IN ORDER FOR THE MENT TO BE COMPLETE. 
          MADAM MAYOR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THERE ARE FORMS TO BE COMPLETED BY THE, THE COMMITTEE THAT IS ESTABLISHED. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE BOARD BESIDES MEETING? WELL, THEY'LL REVIEW THE, BASED ON THE PERSON THAT'S BEING DESIGNATED, UH, TO BE RENAMED, UH, TO BE NAMED AFTER. 
          UH, THERE ARE SOME CRITERIA THEY HAVE TO LOOK INTO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PERSON MEET THOSE CRITERIA. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OH, MATTER MAYOR, GO AHEAD. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          OH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOU. 
          NO. 
          OH, THAT WAS, UH, ATTORNEY CALLAWAY ATTORNEY. 
          UH, YES. 
          UH, MAD MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, THE, UH, UH, DIRECTOR IS SPEAKING TO SECTION TWO DASH 4 9 3 OF YOUR COAT, WHICH SAYS, THE NAMING OF A FACILITY SHALL BE PROPOSED BY THE MAYOR OR ANY CITY COMMISSIONER. 
          UH, IT SHALL BE ACCOMPLISHED BY AN ORDINANCE ADOPTED BY THE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE ON NO LESS THAN FIVE COMMISSIONERS. 
          THE CITY MANAGER SHALL ESTABLISH AN AD HOC HONORARY NAMING RIGHTS COMMITTEE, INCLUDING DESIGNATING THE CHAIR TO REVIEW AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE NOMINATION. 
          EXISTING BOARDS OR COMMITTEES SHALL BE, UH, CONSIDERED WHENEVER POSSIBLE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD FOR NOMINATIONS INVOLVING PARK FACILITIES. 
          IF AN EXISTING BOARD OR COMMITTEE IS NOT APPROPRIATE, THE MEMBERSHIP SHALL BE COMPRISED OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM DEPARTMENTS, ADVISORY GROUPS, FRIENDS, FOUNDATIONS, OR RECOGNIZED SUPPORT GROUPS WITH AN INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY OR FACILITY TO BE NAMED. 
          THE CHAIR SHALL CONVENE MEETINGS AS NECESSARY. 
          THE COMMITTEE SHALL COMPLETE ITS REVIEW WITHIN 90 DAYS OF ITS ESTABLISHMENT AND REPORT ITS RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND DISBAND. 
          WHEN THE COMMISSION ACTION IS TAKEN TO ACCEPT OR REJECT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE SHALL HOLD AT LEAST ONE ADVERTISED PUBLIC MEETING IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROPERTY OR THE FACILITY TO SECURE PUBLIC INPUT ON THE NOMINATION. 
          A NOTICE OF INTENT TO CONSIDER HONORARY NAMING OF CITY PROPERTY SHALL BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION FOR THE NOTICE, PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT NOTICE SHOULD INDICATE THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY OR THE FACILITY, ANY HISTORICAL, ANY HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PROPERTY, AND INFORM THE PUBLIC OF THE TIME, DATE, AND PLACE OF THE NOTICED MEETING. 
          AND THEN PRIOR TO THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION, THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL INVESTIGATE THE NOMINATION, SHALL CONSIDER COMPLIANCE WITH THIS POLICY OR ANY OTHER FACTORS. 
          THE COMMITTEE, UH, DEEMS RELEVANT TO THE NOMINATION. 
          I SAID THIS COMMISSION, IT SHOULD BE THE COMMISS. 
          THE COMMITTEE SHALL FULLY INVESTIGATE THE NOMINATION, CONSIDER COMPLIANCE WITH THE POLICY OR OTHER FACTORS THAT THE COMMITTEE DEEMS RELEVANT. 
          THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE SHALL BE FOR EITHER APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF THE NOMINATION. 
          THE COMMITTEE MAY ALSO RECOMMEND CONDITIONS INCLUDING SPECIFIC TERMS FOR NAMING RIGHTS. 
          A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL SHALL REQUIRE, AGAIN, AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF A MAJORITY PLUS ONE OF THE TOTAL COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIPS. 
          THAT'S FOR THE COMMITTEE. 
          THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. CALLOWAY. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER THOMAS, ARE YOU INCONSISTENT WITH MOVING THIS ITEM FORWARD? SHE DOES HAVE A QUESTION, MADAM. 
          OH, COMMISSIONER THOMAS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, I DID, I BARELY HEARD WHAT THE, UH, WHAT CITY ATTORNEY WAS SAYING, BUT I'M IN APPROVAL WITH IT IN TERMS OF, MY QUESTION WAS, UH, DIDN'T HEAR CLEAR ENOUGH WHO WERE TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE AND HOW THEY WERE TO BE CHOSEN. 
          SO I CAN GET THAT BY TOMORROW. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. RON. 
          THANK YOU TO YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          YEAH, WE'RE HUH MADAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. CAN I ASK? YES. 
          OH, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          SO DO WE, DO WE ALL HAVE A CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ORDINANCE? COMMISSIONER HARRISON, I'M IN SUPPORT. 
          MADAM VICE MAYOR. 
          I AM COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. UH, LET ME THINK. 
          AND COMMISSIONER THOMAS HAS SAID YES. 
          YES. 
          AND SO AM I. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MY COLLEAGUE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MANAGER. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
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ITEM NUMBER 
          [C.  DISCUSSION REGARDING AUTHORIZING AN INCREASED AUTHORIZATION NOT TO EXCEED $50,000 PER FISCAL YEAR WITH DELL INC.]
FIVE C, DISCUSSION REGARDING AUTHORIZING AND INCREASE AUTHORIZATION NOT TO EXCEED $50,000 PER FISCAL YEAR WITH DELL INC. 
          AND BOBBY WILLIAMS WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UH, PROTOCOL ESTABLISHED. 
          UH, ONCE AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, I AM BOBBY WILLIAMS, UH, DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES. 
          AND, UH, THIS IS ANOTHER DISCUSSION ITEM, UH, TONIGHT JUST INFORMING YOU ON A REQUEST THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE, UM, TO INCREASE THE CITY'S AUTHORIZATION USING DELL. 
          UH, DELL RIGHT NOW IS OUR, OUR CURRENT PROVIDER OF MOST OF OUR COMPUTERS, OUR LAPTOPS, OUR, OUR PRINTERS, A LOT OF THE HARDWARE, IT HARDWARE ITEMS. UH, CURRENTLY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, UH, WE'VE, WE HAVE NEVER, UH, HAD THE NEED TO SPEND OVER 24,999 DALLAS, WHICH IS THE, UH, CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORIZATION. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD, UH, SEVERAL REPLACEMENTS AND, UH, PURCHASE OF NEW EQUIPMENT ALONG THE WAY, NEW STAFFING, UH, WE HAVE, UH, ALMOST EXHAUSTED THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY. 
          UH, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ASKING, UH, WE WILL BE ASKING, UM, TO BRING THIS ITEM BACK AS A RESOLUTION, TO HAVE THAT AUTHORIZATION TO SPEND UP TO $50,000. 
          AGAIN, IT'S JUST AN AUTHORIZATION. 
          UM, NOT THAT WE WILL PROMISE TO SPEND THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          UM, IN THE CURRENT YEAR, ONE OF THE ANTICIPATED PURCHASES WITH DELL IS TO PURCHASE LAPTOPS FOR ALL OF OUR GAME CHANGER STUDENTS AND OUR YOUTH, UH, SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYER, SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT STUDENTS. 
          UH, SO CERTAINLY WE DO NEED THE AUTHORIZATION IN PLACE, IF YOU WOULD AGREE. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST AN AUTHORIZATION, NOT A PROMISE TO BUY. 
          I CAN ENTERTAIN ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING DELL TO YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS, QUEST. 
          COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          ONE, WHEN, SO IF WE APPROVE THE 50,000, IF YOU ARE GOING OVER THE 25,000 THAT WE ALLOTTED THE CITY MANAGER, ARE WE GOING TO BE NOTIFIED THAT YOU'RE GOING OVER TO GO CLOSE TO THE 50,000? OR IS THIS, UM, THAT WILL NOT KNOW? WOULD WE BE STILL PRIVY TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING OVER THE 25,000? UH, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. 
          THE AMOUNT OF MAYOR, UH, TYPICALLY WITH THE RESOLUTION, WE'RE ABLE TO JUST SPIN UP TO THE AUTHORITY THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN. 
          OKAY? UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, SEVERAL CONTROLS IN PLACE TO ENSURE, UH, THAT THE AMOUNT THAT IS APPROVED BY COMMISSION IS NOT EXCEEDED. 
          UH, THAT'S THROUGH OUR CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION PLATFORMS THAT WE USE. 
          UH, SO WE, UH, WE, WE WOULDN'T COME BACK TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING UNLESS WE NEEDED IT. 
          UM, BUT ALSO WITH DELL, WE, WE DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MAJOR PURCHASES AT ONE TIME. 
          UM, THE EXCEPTION WILL BE THIS ONE TIME FOR OUR GAME CHANGER STUDENTS AND OUR SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT STUDENTS WHEN WE BUY THE LAPTOPS. 
          BUT TYPICALLY WE'RE, WE'RE BUYING A COMPUTER HERE, A PRINTER HERE, LAPTOP HERE, REPLACING THIS OR, OR BUYING SOMETHING NEW FOR NEW STAFF. 
          UH, SO, SO OVER TIME WE, WE MAY SPEND UP TO 50,000, BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST A, AN AUTHORIZATION. 
          SO TO YOU, MADAM MAYOR, SO THE GAME TO CHANGE YOUR LAPTOPS, ARE YOU GIVING THEM TO THE STUDENTS OR ARE THEY JUST BORROWING THEM FOR THE TIME? UH, THE, THE PLAN DURING THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT FOR 2025 WAS TO PURCHASE AND DURING A COMMISSION MEETING TO PRESENT THE, UH, LAPTOPS TO THE STUDENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          THE, THE COMMISSION THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, THE COMMISSION PRESENTING THE LAPTOPS TO OUR STUDENTS. 
          MADAM VICE MAYOR. 
          YES, MS. BAR. 
          THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 
          BECAUSE IF WE, I THINK YOU HAVE ABOUT 29 GAME CHANGERS THIS YEAR. 
          I THINK THAT IS WHAT I WAS TOLD. 
          SO IF WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THOSE LAPTOPS TO THOSE, TO THE PEOPLE, THE KIDS IN THE GAME CHANGER. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT YEAR? BECAUSE ONCE YOU START SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE MM-HMM . 
          SO I WOULD RARELY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MONIES BEING SO TIGHT NOW THAT IF YOU GIVE 29 OR 30 KIDS A LAPTOP THIS YEAR, PART OF THE GAME CHANGER NEXT YEAR, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE? YOU HAVE TO GIVE ANOTHER SET. 
          SO FOR ME, I HAVE A PROBLEM RIGHT HERE. 
          YOUR HONOR. 
          YOU MIND ME? THAT IS A THAT IS A GREAT POINT. 
          UM, SO EVERY BUDGET DEVELOPMENT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH BOTH THE MANAGEMENT, WORKING WITH BSO AND WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE HOW CAN WE USE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUNDS. 
          UH, THE FUNDING THAT, UH, WE ANTICIPATE TO USE FOR THESE LAPTOPS IS NOT GENERAL FUND DOLLARS AT ALL. 
          UH, WE ARE PLANNING TO USE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUNDS AND THERE'S A SPECIFIC USE, UH, THAT WE COULD USE THE, THE FUNDING FOR. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT GENERAL FUND 
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DOLLARS. 
          IT'S NOT COMING FROM TAXPAYERS, IT'S COMING FROM, UM, SEIZED AND FORFEIT FOR, IS IT FORFEITED PROPERTIES OR TANGIBLE ITEMS THAT ARE COLLECTED BY BSO AND THEN SOLD ON OUR BEHALF AND WE COLLECT THOSE DOLLARS TO YOU? MADAM MAYOR? MADAM? YES, MS. BOBBY. 
          AGAIN, IF I WERE MAKING THAT PRESENTATION, THAT'S THE FIRST THING I WOULD'VE SAID THAT THE FUND'S NOT COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO IF THAT'S WHERE WE ARE GETTING THE MONEY FROM, FINE BY ME WILLIAMS. RIGHT. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE LAPTOPS THAT WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THE STUDENTS IS NOT COMING OUT OF THIS $50,000 THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THROUGH MADAM MAYOR. 
          IT'S AN AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY OVERALL, NOT FOR THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UM, SO, UM, RIGHT, BUT YOU ARE SAYING, SO YOU'RE SORRY MOTHER MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SU CHIMA. 
          THE, THE $50,000 IS, IS NOT GOING TO BE USED 'CAUSE YOU STATED IT WAS GOING TO BE USED. 
          SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE USED TO BUY THOSE LAPTOPS FOR THE 29 STUDENTS. 
          YOU ARE GOING TO GET THE MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE TO BUY THE LAPTOPS THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          THIS IS THE AUTHORIZATION TO TO, TO MAKE THE PURCHASE ON THE CITY'S BEHALF. 
          UH, SO THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE DO, UH, INTEND TO SPEND FOR NOT ONLY GAME CHANGERS, BUT FOR THE SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE ALSO, UH, ONCE WE MAKE THE PURCHASE, WE'LL BE USING LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUNDS. 
          BUT THE AUTHORIZATION IS OVERALL FOR THE CITY. 
          I CAN'T SPEND OVER MORE THAN 50,000 IF YOU SO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AT OUR UPCOMING MEETING. 
          I CAN'T, I CAN'T SPEND MORE THAN THAT 50,000 PER FISCAL YEAR. 
          UM, SO WHATEVER WE DO PURCHASE, IT'LL BE WITHIN THAT AUTHORIZATION. 
          OKAY. 
          THROUGH YOU MAYOR. 
          YES. 
          I'M, I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PURCHASE. 
          WHAT, WHEN, OKAY. 
          RIGHT NOW WE GOT 25,000. 
          YOU WANNA DOUBLE IT TO PURCHASE WHAT AND WHY SO MUCH? WHY SHOULD, WHY SHOULD WE DOUBLE IT? WHY SAYING MAYBE ADD AN EXTRA $10,000 TO IT OR 20, BUT WHY WE'RE DOUBLING IT? WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE YOU PURCHASING? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID THE GAME CHANGE, THE 29 LAPTOPS ARE NOT GOING TO COME OUTTA THAT MONEY. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE INCREASING IT TO GET? THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW WE, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE AUTHORIZATION IF THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD, UH, KINDA HELP ME OUT HERE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          IT'S THE AUTHORIZATION THAT, THAT WE ARE, UH, REQUESTING FROM THE CITY CONNECTION. 
          I JUST WANT US TO AUTHORIZE YOU MAY NOT MADAM MAYOR USE IT. 
          THAT IS FINE, BUT YOU JUST WANNA KNOW IT'S THERE IF YOU NEED IT. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, YOUR HONOR, ATTORNEY CALLWAY, UM, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, UNDER SECTION 82 DASH 3 5 5 OF THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT CODE, WHICH IS RELATING TO RESPONSIBILITIES AND AUTHORITIES. 
          IT SAYS THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE AND EXECUTE ALL PROCUREMENT RELATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, PURCHASE ORDERS, CONTRACTS, CONTRACT AMENDMENTS, CONTRACT RENEWALS, UP TO AND EQUAL TO THE AMOUNT OF, UH, WELL, I I'M SORRY I READ THE WRONG ONE. 
          UNDER, UH, UH, SUBSECTION B THREE, THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE AND EXECUTE ALL PROCUREMENT RELATED NON-CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PURCHASE ORDERS, CONTRACT CONTRACT AMENDMENTS, RENEWALS IN THE AMOUNT OF $25,000 OR LESS, INCLUDING THE MAKING OF CONTRACTS NOT TO EXCEED A DURATION OF THREE YEARS. 
          IN EFFECT, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, YOUR CITY CODE SAYS THE CITY MANAGER CAN EXPEND UP TO $25,000 OR LESS. 
          STAFF IS ASKING YOU TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER OR HER DESIGNEE TO EXPEND DOUBLE THAT AMOUNT. 
          MY LEGAL INTERPRETATION OF THIS MATTER, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, IS YOUR CODE SAYS WHAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN EXPEND. 
          IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE WHAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN EXPEND, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A AMENDMENT TO YOUR CODE. 
          UH, BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S PROPER FOR YOU TO DO IT ON AN AD HOC BASIS. 
          AND YOU CAN IMAGINE HAVING SEVERAL OF THESE REQUESTS TO EXTEND THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY, UM, ON ONE TIME AFTER ANOTHER. 
          SO AS IT STANDS NOW, THE, THE CITY MANAGER DOESN'T NEED YOUR AUTHORITY OR YOUR, YOUR APPROVAL TO EXPEND ANY AMOUNT UNDER 25,000. 
          IF THERE IS A NEED TO INCREASE THAT AUTHORITY, THAT SHOULD BE DONE BY AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR ORDINANCE. 
          BUT I AM SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW, WHAT STAFF IS ASKING YOU TO DO, I THINK IS INCONSISTENT WITH YOUR OBLIGATION TO COMPLY WITH YOUR PROCUREMENT CODE. 
          MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU. 
          SO MAYOR, UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT CITY ATTORNEY. 
          I THINK WE NEED CLARITY ON WHAT IT IS STAFF IS ASKING FOR, AND NOW WE NEED CLARITY ON. 
          WELL, I CAN HELP INTERPRET 
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OR SEE HOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THE CITY ATTORNEY STATED. 
          SO MY, MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, AND MADAM MAYOR'S TWO QUESTIONS. 
          IT'S TWOFOLD. 
          YES. 
          UH, MY UNDERSTANDING, BOBBY, IS YOU'RE ASKING TO BE ABLE TO SPEND $50,000, BUT THAT, THAT, THAT ISN'T TALK ABOUT WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. 
          SO WHERE SHE'S JUST ASKING, WE KNOW WE CAN ONLY SPEND 25,000 COMING TO THE COMMISSION, ALLOW US TO SPEND MORE, BUT THAT MORE IS NOT COMING FROM GENERAL BUDGET. 
          SHE'S ASKING TO SPEND MORE, SHE'S NOT TELLING YOU WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. 
          WELL, SHE IS TELLING YOU WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PERMISSION IS ABOUT. 
          THE PERMISSION IS TO BE ABLE TO SPEND MORE, UM, AND THAT WILL BE COMING FROM LETF FUNDS. 
          SO, UM, HELP ME IF I'M GETTING THAT RIGHT, MS. BOBBY, THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE PURCHASING WOULD BE THE, THE BULK LAPTOPS, WHICH WE WOULD NEED THE AUTHORIZATION TO PURCHASE IF WE WERE TO MOVE AHEAD IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          AND THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT PURCHASE IS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND. 
          HOWEVER, THE CITY DOES HAVE AN ONGOING NEED TO REPLACE ITS COMPUTERS, ITS LAPTOPS, ITS, UH, WORKSTATIONS. 
          AS YOU KNOW, EARLIER THIS FISCAL YEAR, YOU DID RECEIVE, UM, REPLACEMENT, UM, I THINK IT WAS LAPTOPS OR, OR, UH, TABLETS. 
          SO WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE LATEST AND GREATEST, UH, TECHNOLOGY SO THAT WE COULD, UH, BE MORE EFFICIENT IN OUR OPERATIONS. 
          AND AS YOU KNOW, INFLATION, UH, CHANGES QUITE OFTEN. 
          UH, SO WE IN THAT PERIOD OF, UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH TARIFFS, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT INFLATION HAPPENS. 
          UM, SO YEAR OVER YEAR, TYPICALLY WE EXPERIENCE A THREE TO 5% INCREASE IN THE PRODUCTS THROUGH THROUGH DELL. 
          MADAM MAYOR, TO YOUR MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          UH, THE SECOND PART. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT, BOBBY. 
          SO, TO, TO CLARIFY, WE'RE BEING ASKED, UM, IF YOU CAN GO ON OUR BEHALF, MAKE A PURCHASE OF A HIGHER AMOUNT. 
          IT'S NOT COMING FROM GENERAL BUDGET TO DO THAT. 
          IT'S COMING FROM, OKAY, NOW WHAT, WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST STATED, UM, WE KNOW THAT THE CITY, UH, THAT THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF CAN SPEND UP TO 25,000, SORRY, THE CITY MANAGER CAN SPEND UP TO 25,000. 
          UM, IT WAS SAID THAT OUR ORDINANCE HAS IT IN PLACE SO THE CITY MANAGER CAN SPEND 25,000. 
          THAT'S THE RULE OF THE CITY. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE OR ARE WE STILL ALLOWED TO, ON A ASNE BASIS, HEAR SOLICITATION TO BE ABLE TO ASK TO BE SPEND MORE? BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S NOT COMING FROM OUR GENERAL FUND. 
          I THINK THE KIDS SHOULD GET LAPTOPS AND, UM, IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DO THIS YEAR AFTER YEAR THROUGH THE LET IF I'M ALL FOR IT. 
          BUT, UM, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, THEY WOULD'VE SPENT MORE IF THEY COULD HAVE, IT'S JUST THAT THEY CAN ONLY SPEND UP TO 25,000. 
          THAT'S THE MAIN IDEA HERE. 
          THEY COULD HAVE SPENT MORE IF THEY COULD HAVE, BUT THEY CAN ONLY, WHETHER YOU GET THE FUNDS FROM WALMART OR WHEREVER, THEY CAN ONLY SPEND UP TO 25,000. 
          BUT MY QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY IS, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT WE, YOUR, YOUR ADVICE IS TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE, BUT CAN WE NOT STEAL ON A AS-NEEDED BASIS AS A COMMISSIONED BODY, JUST APPROVE AND ALLOW THEM TO SPEND ATTORNEY CALLOWAY, UM, MATTER, MAYOR COMMISSIONERS TO COMMISSIONER HARRISON'S QUESTION. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING IS LOOKING FOR AN EXCEPTION TO YOUR CODE. 
          AND IF THERE WERE SUCH AN EXCEPTION, I THINK I WOULD'VE FOUND IT AND I'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK . 
          GOTCHA. 
          I GOTCHA. 
          UM, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE IS AN EXCEPTION THAT WOULD ALLOW THE COMMISSION TO DO SOMETHING CONTRARY TO WHAT YOUR CODE REQUIRES. 
          YOUR CODE ESSENTIALLY IS THE LAW OF THE LAND. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RELATIVE TO LAUDERDALE LAKES, UH, SUBSTANCE OF COURSE. 
          YEAH. 
          THE PROGRAMMING, IT SOUNDS EXCELLENT. 
          YEP. 
          BUT MY COMMENT IS RELATING TO WHETHER OR NOT THE COMMISSION HAS A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO COMPLY WITH YOUR PROCUREMENT CODE. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, I I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A EXCEPTION THAT ALLOWS YOU TO, ON AN AD HOC BASIS, DECIDE WHEN THE CITY MANAGER CAN EXPEND MORE THAN $25,000. 
          AND AGAIN, YOU CAN IMAGINE A SCENARIO, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT WOULD APPLY IN THIS CASE, BUT WE RECEIVED MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXCEED HER SPENDING AUTHORITY OR HIS SPENDING AUTHORITY. 
          UM, AND WHAT THAT EFFECTIVELY MEANS IS THAT YOU HAVE A DEFACTO, UH, AMENDED YOUR CODE, RIGHT? AND, AND SO THE IDEA IS, UM, YOUR FIRST OBLIGATION, I THINK IS TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW. 
          AND THE LAW IS WHAT THE CITY, WHAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS AT THIS POINT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT CITY ATTORNEY. 
          YOU ARE WELCOME. 
          UM, 
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REAL, REAL, REAL QUICK. 
          I I, I WANNA STAND IN CONSISTENT. 
          THERE'S TWO THINGS. 
          FIRST OF ALL, IF I REMEMBER CLEARLY, WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE, WHICH MEANS THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE, UH, THAT'S THE FIRST THING. 
          AND I WANNA MAKE SURE MOVING FORWARD, WE DO IT RIGHT. 
          SO WOULDN'T WE TO DO IT RIGHT MOVING FORWARD, SIMPLY JUST CHANGE THE LANGUAGE IN WHAT'S BEING ASKED INSTEAD OF TRYING TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO SPEND 50,000. 
          CAN'T WE REWORD THIS TO SAY WE'RE ASKING THE CITY COMMISSION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES TO SPEND 50,000 TOWARDS THAT PROGRAM. 
          WE'RE NOT TELLING THE CITY MANAGER TO DO IT, BUT THEY'RE ASKING THE COMMISSION TO, UM, MAKE THAT DECISION. 
          IF I COULD GET GUIDANCE THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          SO, WELL, I, I, WHAT I, MY TAKE ON THIS IS WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE STATING THAT WE GIVE THE CITY MANAGER $25,000 FOR HER SPENDING. 
          UM, WE SHOULD NOT BE ASKING FOR, UM, TO, TO, TO D UH, ASKING OUT OF THE, THAT BOX TO INCREASE IN SPENDING, BECAUSE THEN WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S BEEN SPENT. 
          SO I THINK THAT IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL FUNDING, THERE'S TWO WAYS WE SHOULD DO THIS. 
          MY SUGGESTION IS EITHER YOU COME TO US AND ASK FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY TO PURCHASE, OR WE ARE GOING TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE AND CHANGING IT AND UP THE CITY MANAGER'S MONEY FROM 25,000 TO WHATEVER IT IS, OR WE ARE GOING. 
          I, BUT IT'S EITHER THAT OR, BUT I PREFER IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE LIMIT TO COME AND SPEAK WITH US AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO PURCHASE THIS AND BREAK DOWN THE ITEMS WE NEED TO PURCHASE AND HOW MUCH MORE MONEY WE NEED, AND LET US APPROVE IT THAN JUST SAYING, HERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 25,000. 
          WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA PURCHASE. 
          I, AND I'M NOT SAYING ANYBODY PURCHASING ANYTHING FOR THEIR HOUSE AND, YOU KNOW, 50 INCH STRING TV FROM DELL. 
          I'M JUST SAYING, I RATHER, I RATHER SHE HAS HER $25,000 LIMIT. 
          AND IF IT'S GOING TO GO OVER, COME TO US FOR US TO REVIEW THE ITEMS THAT YOU WANNA PURCHASE TO MAKE IT GO OVER. 
          MAYOR. 
          YES, MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I, WELL, I KNOW FOR A FACT I WILL NOT ALLOW FOR MY VOTE. 
          NOT $24,999 TO ME IS A LOT OF MONEY THAT CAN, RIGHT NOW, IT, I'M SURE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY CAN PURCHASE 30 LAPTOPS BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE YEARS AGO WHEN LAPTOPS COST AN ARM AND A LEG. 
          EVERYTHING IS DOWN. 
          SO IF YOU CAN'T GIVE 29, GET A BOX AND THE R IT, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF CHANGING THAT. 
          NOW, $24,999 TO ME IS A LOT OF MONEY THAT NO COMMISSIONER, INCLUDING THE MAYOR, CAN SPEND 20. 
          SO MAYBE IF YOU CANNOT GET THE 30, 30 OR THE 29, MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE WILL GET ANOTHER TIME. 
          I'M NOT, NOT IN FAVOR OF CHANGING THE CODE BECAUSE ONCE YOU START SOMETHING, IT KEEPS ON EATING AWAY. 
          EATING AWAY. 
          IT HAPPENED BEFORE THAT. 
          I REMEMBER YEARS AGO, ONE CITY MANAGER DECIDED THAT IT WAS $150,000 AND THE CITY COMMISSION WAS NOT GOING TO APPROVE IT. 
          AND HE DECIDED ON TAPE, TOLD THE PERSON, OKAY, I CAN DO IT IN 25,000 ROUNDS. 
          SIX, I DON'T WANT TO GO THERE. 
          THE CODE IS WORKING AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO BREAK IT. 
          MADAM MANAGER. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. 
          I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. 
          I BELIEVE THAT WHAT BOBBY IS TRYING TO DO HERE IS OUTSIDE OF MY AUTHORITY, USING A COMPETITIVELY BIDDED CONTRACT TO BE ABLE TO PROCURE THIS ITEM, NOT INCREASE THE CITY MANAGER'S SPENDING AUTHORITY. 
          IS THAT ACCURATE, BOBBY, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          MADAM MAYOR. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          MADAM MAYOR, I HEAR YOU. 
          SORRY, MADAM MAYOR. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER THOMAS DOES HAVE A QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          I DIDN'T SEE A RAISED HAND COMMISSIONER THOMAS, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM MAYOR, I, 
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YOU KNOW, I SEE A TWOFOLD TO THIS PARTICULAR DISCUSSION HERE. 
          I, I AM SEEING, I'M GLAD THAT ACTING CITY MANAGER BROUGHT CLARIFICATION TO THE 25,000. 
          IT'S NOT BEING INCREASED TO 25 ARE AN ADDITIONAL 25,000. 
          BUT MY CONCERN IS THE WAY IT'S BEING PRESENTED HERE, UM, AND THE EXPLANATION THAT IT WAS GIVEN, UM, I, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE STUDENTS, UH, THE GAME CHANGER SHOULD BE GIVEN LAPTOP, BUT I'M ALSO IN AGREEMENT WITH VICE MAYOR IF WE DO IT THIS YEAR FOR THAT, IT, WHAT IF WE HAVE 50 NEXT YEAR, OR PERHAPS THERE'S A LIMITATION, WILL WE ALSO GIVE LAPTOPS TO THEM? PERHAPS IT'S A USE IS FOR USE AND NOT BE GIVEN TO, MAYBE THAT'S A STIPULATION THAT CAN BE PUT IN PLACE, BUT I I, I AM IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT IF IT IS AN INCREASE OF AN ADDITIONAL 25,000 BECAUSE IT SAYS HERE TO INCREASE AUTHORIZATION NOT TO EXCEED 50,000 PER FISCAL YEAR WITH DELL INC. 
          NOW, I DID NOT. 
          I THOUGHT IT, IT DEALT WITH, UM, CITY COMPUTERS FOR EMPLOYEES. 
          SO I AM, FIRST OF ALL, TAKE THE, UH, THE SHAME IF I DIDN'T DO MY HOMEWORK CORRECTLY. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS BUY-IN I, WHAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME, BUYING COMPLETE COMPUTERS OR REPLACING WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          SO NOW I'M UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S FOR THE GAME CHANGERS TO GIVE THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, A COMPUTER AT THE END. 
          BUT I, I, I THINK THE WHOLE PROCESS OF THIS DISCUSSION WAS NOT EXPLAINED PROPERLY, WAS NOT EXPLAINED PROPERLY. 
          UM, IF WE'RE GONNA AUTHORIZE SOMETHING FOR 50,000, WE ARE UNDER THE IMPRESSION BECAUSE THERE'S A CAP RIGHT NOW THROUGH ORDINANCE OF 25,000, AND WE'RE HEARING 50,000 PER FISCAL YEAR. 
          TO ME, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW? IS IT AT 25,000 WHERE YOU WANT TO INCREASE FOR THE DELL, YOU KNOW, AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE AUTHORIZATION? SO THE CLARITY IS NOT THERE FOR ME. 
          SO WE'RE DEALING WITH TWO DIFFERENT, UM, YOU KNOW, ENTITIES RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THAT MEANS CLARIFICATION, BUT I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT OF, UM, INCREASE IT RIGHT NOW. 
          THE, FOR AN ADDITIONAL 25,000 IF IT'S GOING TO BE THEN MAYBE AT A LATER TIME. 
          BUT IF IT'S 25,000, THE UH, CITY MANAGER IS ABLE TO DO, THEN COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH AMPLE TIME IN ORDER TO GET THE JOB DONE, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST WHEREBY, UM, IT CAME TO US AFTER THE EFFECT. 
          THAT'S ALL I I HAVE TO SAY ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER THOMAS, MS. BOBBY, UH, FOR YOU MADAM MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY. 
          SO, SO RIGHT NOW DELL IS OUR PROVIDER FOR OUR IT HARDWARE. 
          WE HAVE AN ONGOING NEED TO REPLACE OUR COMPUTERS, OUR LAPTOPS, OUR TVS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THAT IS REAL. 
          WE HAVE TO DO THAT EVERY YEAR IN ORDER TO STAY IN BUSINESS, IN ORDER TO OPERATE, IN ORDER TO BE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT. 
          UM, AS A PART OF THE CIP PROGRAM, THERE WAS A PROJECT CALLED THE ECC UPGRADE. 
          I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN ASKING ABOUT IT, RIGHT? WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT DELL TO BUY THE EQUIPMENT TO REPLACE THE, UM, THE AV OR AUDIO VISUAL ITEMS OVER AT ECC. 
          THOSE ITEMS CONSIST OF TVS THINGS. 
          THEY CONSIST OF A PROJECTOR SCREEN, THEY CONSIST OF A PROJECTOR, MICROPHONES, A SOUND SYSTEM, ALL OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE BUYING FROM DELL. 
          SO THIS AUTHORIZATION DOES A FEW THINGS. 
          AGAIN, IT'S JUST THE TOTAL AUTHORIZATION FOR OPERATIONS IN GENERAL, WHICH IS YOUR, YOUR CONSTANT REPLACEMENT OF YOUR IT HARDWARE. 
          IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE OUR A CC UPGRADE. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S A REAL PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED AND FUNDED THROUGH THIS CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          BUT THEN ALSO TOO, AS A PART OF THE BUDGET, WE WANTED TO PURCHASE THESE LAPTOPS FOR STUDENTS. 
          AND SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE DO NEED, UH, THE, THE OVERALL AUTHORIZATION. 
          NOW PURCHASING ITEMS FROM CIP, IT'S A DIFFERENT FUND. 
          THAT'S OUR THREE 15 GENERAL, GENERAL CIP ACCOUNT. 
          UM, TYPICALLY A LOT OF OUR REGULAR REPLACEMENT DOES COME FROM GENERAL FUND, BUT THE PURCHASE OF OUR LAPTOPS FOR OUR STUDENTS IS COMING FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUNDS. 
          SO THIS IS SPECIFIC TO DALE, NOT ANY OTHER, NOT ANY OTHER, UM, VENDOR. 
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AND THIS IS, WELL THIS IS JUST INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION. 
          BUT IF WE BRING IT BACK TO YOU AS A RESOLUTION, THE RESOLUTION IS THE LEGISLATIVE DOCUMENT, UH, THAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES TO MAKE THAT PURCHASE, TO MAKE THOSE PURCHASES. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. 
          SO WE, SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THE COMMISSION TO UPDATE OUR ORDINANCE FOR ANYTHING. 
          THIS IS SPECIFIC TO DALE AND THE ORDINANCE IS VERY CLEAR THAT IN ORDER TO PURCHASE MORE THAN 25 9, 9 9 PER VENDOR, THE COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE. 
          SO THIS IS A REQUEST OR JUST A CONVERSATION TO SEE HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT. 
          BUT OUR, OUR NORMAL REOCCURRING TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES IS A REAL, REAL ACTIVITY THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE EVERY YEAR. 
          AND AS WE'VE SEEN RIGHT NOW, WE'VE ALREADY SPENT $19,000 AS OF MAY 1ST, RIGHT? IN ORDER TO COMPLETE OUR ECC UPGRADE PROJECT, WE DO NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, A LITTLE BIT MORE AUTHORIZATION TO MAKE SURE WE CAN BUY THE TVS, THE PROJECTIVE SCREENS, AND THE REPLACEMENT LAPTOPS IN THE COMPUTER LAB. 
          MS. BOB, I THINK AS THE DISCUSSION ENSUED THAT THE LINES WERE KIND OF BLURRED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THE INCREASE WAS NEEDED. 
          ONE INDICATION I THOUGHT WAS BECAUSE OF DELL THAT WE NEEDED TO UPGRADE OUR EQUIPMENT, OUR SERVICES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER TAKE WAS FOR THE COMPUTERS, FOR THE GAME CHANGERS. 
          I THINK THE PUTTING TOGETHER THOSE TWO KIND OF MUDDIED THE WATERS A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR DISCUSSION AN INCREASE TO $50,000 FOR, THAT'S A QUESTION YOU BY THE MAYOR? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          NO, FOR A QUESTION, SHE'S SAYING TO FINISH THE SENTENCE FOR WHAT  THAT MAYOR IT IS TOO. 
          WELL, ONE OF THE, I WAS LISTENING TO YOU TALK ABOUT THE ITEMS, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO, MADAM MAYOR IS ONLY APPROVED FOR ONE YEAR. 
          IF WE CAN MAKE ALL THE PURCHASE BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST, WE CAN GO BACK TO OUR NORMAL, UH, AUTHORIZATION. 
          AND IF WE RUN OUT OF MONEY OR RUN OUT OF THE AUTHORIZATION, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO YOU. 
          BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, WE ARE ASKING TO, TO HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO CONTINUE WITH REPLACING OUR IT HARDWARE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN COMPLETE THE ECC UPGRADE PROJECT. 
          AND IF YOU SO AGREE WITH PURCHASING LAPTOPS ONE-TIME PURCHASE FOR LAPTOPS FOR OUR STUDENTS, WE COULD ALSO ADD THAT IN THIS CURRENT YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR ONLY, AND THEN GO RIGHT BACK TO LESS THAN 24 9. 
          NINE NINE IF YOU'D LIKE. 
          MAD MA'AM. 
          WELL, MR. OKAY, JUST A MOMENT. 
          WELL, MS. BONDY, WHY CAN'T WE, OR THE REQUESTS A DISCUSSION FOR THE REQUEST TO BE, TO INCREASE THE DE CONTRACT AND NOT TO INCREASE THE AUTHORIZATION FOR $50,000? UH, THREE, MADAM MAYOR, IT'S, UH, ONE IN THE SAME. 
          UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE A A A A SOLE CONTRACT OR AN EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT WITH DALE. 
          WE DO NOT. 
          WE, WE, WE USE DALE, UM, THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORIZATION. 
          WHEN WE ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER. 
          A PURCHASE ORDER IS A CONTRACT AND THAT'S HOW WE'VE BEEN USING IT. 
          AND WE DON'T PURCHASE BIG ITEMS. WE MAY PURCHASE A FEW ITEMS HERE AND THERE. 
          UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT WITH DELL NECESSARILY. 
          THE STATE DOES ALLOW US TO, UH, USE COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS AND THE STATE ALSO USES DELL AS WELL. 
          MS. BOBBY WILL THE PURCHASE OF THE 29 LAPTOPS FOR THE GAME CHANGERS TAKE US OVER THE THRESHOLD OF WHAT IS ALREADY THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR? YES, MA'AM. 
          IT WOULD. 
          DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW MUCH? UH, NOT OFF HAND. 
          RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON THE, UH, ESTIMATES RIGHT NOW. 
          WE, WE JUST GOT A GOOD COUNT OF THE GAME CHANGER, UH, PARTICIPANTS. 
          I BELIEVE IT WAS AT 30 LAST WEEK. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER, I WANNA SAY 10 OF THE STUDENTS THAT WORK THROUGHOUT THE CITY THROUGH THE SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM THROUGH CAREERSOURCE BROWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF INCREASING TO $50,000, BUT WE DO NEED TO DISCUSS ALTERNATIVES TO HAVE BOTH OF THEM ACCOMPLISHED. 
          MADAM VICE MAYOR? YES, MADAM MAYOR, THE QUESTION IS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, COULD WE GET A RESOLUTION FOR THAT ATTORNEY? WE WOULD PREFER THAT WAY. 
          MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS TO THE VICE MAYOR'S QUESTION. 
          UH, AND ACTUALLY, UH, WHAT I UNDERSTAND NOW IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN USING PROCURING EITHER GOODS, PRODUCTS OR SERVICES FROM DELL UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORIZATION. 
          AGAIN, THIS GOES BACK TO MY ORIGINAL POINT. 
          IF THE REQUEST IS TO INCREASE THAT AUTHORIZATION, THEN AGAIN, I STAND ON WHAT I'VE ALREADY SAID. 
          THE QUESTION BECOMES WHETHER, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES AND OR THE MANAGER'S OFFICE 
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CAN COME UP WITH A PROCUREMENT METHOD THAT WOULD ALLOW THIS MATTER TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR, WHICH SEEMS TO BE MONEY TO REPLACE EXISTING CITY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          TECHNOLOGY, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. 
          AND AND AGAIN, I THINK THE PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR AND THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES CAN DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A METHOD OF PROCUREMENT THAT PERHAPS WE DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION WITH THE PURCHASE OF WHATEVER EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AT WHATEVER AMOUNT YES. 
          THANK YOU, MS. SARONI. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S THE ROUTE I WOULD PREFER. 
          YEAH. 
          GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY CAN, BUT THAT'S A QUESTION. 
          I THINK BOBBY MAYOR AND THE MANAGER CAN ANSWER YOU. 
          MADAM MAYOR, CAN I JUST CLARIFY WHAT THE YES, BOBBY, WHAT THE, UM, THE RESPONSE FROM STAFF IS, IS SUPPOSED TO BE. 
          SO YOU WANT US TO BRING DALE HERE TO DISCUSS THE ITEMS THAT WE PROCURE FROM THEM, OR NO? NO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT'S REQUESTED. 
          I'M HEARING MS. BOBBY, WHAT I'M HEARING IS NOT TO BRING DELL HERE MM-HMM . 
          BUT TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO US OF WHAT WE INTEND TO PROPOSE TO PURCHASE FROM DELL. 
          OKAY. 
          MADAM MAYOR, UH, THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          UH, ALSO TOO, AS A PART OF THE, THE PACKET IS A PART OF THE, UM, I'M SORRY, IN, IN YOUR PACKET IS A COPY OF THE CONTRACT AS WELL AS A LIST OF THE PRICING SHEET FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF EQUIPMENT THAT DELL DOES PROVIDE. 
          UH, IF YOU ACCEPT, UM, OUR REQUEST TO BRING BACK AS A RESOLUTION, UH, YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED INFORMATION. 
          AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST MORE OF INFORMATION JUST TO SEE WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU STOOD. 
          AND, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, AGAIN, I'M NOT ASKING, UM, TO CHANGE THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORIZATION. 
          UM, OUR LAW, WHICH IS OUR PROCUREMENT CODE, REQUIRES US TO GET YOUR, YOUR PERMISSION TO SPEND MORE. 
          AND THIS IS, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'RE ASKING, UM, TO COME BACK WITH THE RESOLUTION SO THAT WE CAN SPEND MORE. 
          AMEN. 
          AND WHAT I COULD FURTHER DO IS MODIFY IT. 
          SO IT'S ONLY THROUGH THIS FISCAL YEAR, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE ECC UPGRADE PROJECT THAT WE REALLY WANNA TO, UH, MOVE QUICKLY ON. 
          AND, I MEAN, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DO THE GAME CHANGERS LAPTOPS IF YOU DON'T DESIRE. 
          UM, BUT CERTAINLY RIGHT NOW, WE'VE ALREADY EXPENDED, UH, $19,500 AS OF MAY 1ST. 
          UH, AND SO AGAIN, IF YOU WERE TO ASK FOR SOMETHING LIKE A BIG TICKET ITEM, WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THAT AUTHORIZATION, AND WE'D HAVE TO WAIT TILL OCTOBER 1ST TO, TO GET SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY NEED. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK COMMISSIONER HARRIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND BOBBY, HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING TO TRY TO LIKE SAVE. 
          I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEANCE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM AND YOU'RE ASKING TO USE, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUNDS, I THINK. 
          UM, SO, SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS IN, IN THE PROPOSED 50,000, THAT INCLUDES UPGRADING CITY HARDWARE AND LAPTOPS FOR GAME CHANGERS. 
          SO YOU, MADAM THAT IS CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I DISAGREE WITH THE WAY THIS IS PRESENTED TO US. 
          I THINK THOSE SHOULD BE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. OKAY. 
          I THINK THOSE ITEMS SHOULD BE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. I THINK ON ONE HAND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UPDATING THE CITY'S IN, UM, TECHNOLOGICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH I AGREE WITH. 
          OUR VIDEO QUALITY NEEDS HELP, THE SYSTEMS WE USE, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD BE ONE DISCUSSION. 
          AND ANOTHER DISCUSSION SHOULD BE, HEY, WE HAVE A GAME CHANGERS PROGRAM. 
          WE'D LIKE TO DO THIS FOR THE KIDS, AND WE'RE ASKING THE COMMISSION TO AUTHORIZE US TO USE LETF FUNDS FOR THOSE LAPTOPS. 
          THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT DISCUSSION ITEMS IN MY BRAIN. 
          UM, SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING. 
          THE, THE, THE, THE SECOND THING IS, UM, IF, IF WE AND TIMES COME UP WHERE WE MAY HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY 'CAUSE OF INFLATION AND OTHER THINGS, OR SOME CERTAIN UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES, UH, I, I DON'T AGREE WITH GOING AGAINST OUR CHARTER, OUR ORDINANCE, YOU MADE A MENTION TO SAYING THAT THE CHARTER DOES ALLOW US TO AUTHORIZE TO SPEND MORE. 
          BUT MY, MY CHALLENGE TO THAT, I DON'T THINK IT AUTHORIZES US TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO SPEND MORE. 
          I THINK YOU CAN COME BACK TO US WITH A SAID CONTRACT AND ALLOW US TO SPEND MORE ON THAT CONTRACT. 
          BUT I, I THINK IT MIGHT BE A LOOPHOLE WHERE WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AUTHORIZE THAT WITHOUT CHANGING OUR ORDINANCE. 
          AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME WELL, WE'VE PROBABLY DONE IT BEFORE. 
          BUT IF WE'RE GETTING NEW INFORMATION OR UPDATING INFORMATION, I'D LIKE FOR US TO FOLLOW THE CHARTER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO I JUST FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE REWORDED IF THESE AREN'T OUR FUNDS. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY. 
          IT'S IN THE SAME DISCUSSION OF FUNDS THAT WE ARE USING FOR GENERAL FUNDS. 
          AND, UM, IF YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK, I THINK IT SHOULD BE AROUND THE LANGUAGE OF WHATEVER'S IN PLACE, ALLOWING US TO EXPAND WHAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE, NOT ALLOWING THE CITY MANAGER TO SPEND MORE THE HONOR. 
          MAYOR, THAT'S DOABLE. 
          UH, AGAIN, SO WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU, YOU'LL SEE TWO SEPARATE RESOLUTIONS. 
          AND AGAIN, THE 
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RESOLUTIONS ARE APPROVED BY THE MAYOR, WHICH IS A LEGISLATIVE DOCUMENT, WHICH IS A LAW. 
          UM, SO WE'LL HAVE ONE ASKING FOR FUNDING SPECIFIC TO THE GAME CHANGERS AND SYEP LAPTOP PURCHASE. 
          AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A SEPARATE ONE FOR AN INCREASE. 
          AND THAT ONE WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, UH, LESS THAN THE, UH, GAME CHANGERS. 
          BUT WE DO NEED A LITTLE IN INCREASE OVER THE 25,000. 
          SO I'LL BRING BACK THE TWO AND, AND AGAIN, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, IT'LL BE ONE SPECIFIC TO GAME CHANGER PURCHASE. 
          AND THE OTHER ONE WILL BE JUST ASKING FOR AN INCREASE TO DO OUR NORMAL OPERATIONS OF REPLACING OUR IT HARDWARE. 
          MADAM MAYOR, MS. BARBIE. 
          SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          AND MS. BARBIE, YOU JUST MENTIONED SYEP IN THAT STATEMENT, IN REFERENCE TO THE GAME CHANGERS, WHAT ARE WE PROPOSING TO DO WITH THE SYEP? UH, THE, YOU MAD MAYOR? WE, WE HAVE TWO SUMMER PROGRAMS RIGHT NOW. 
          WE HAVE OUR GAME CHANGERS, WHICH HAS APPROXIMATELY 30 STUDENTS. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE OUR, UH, SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT, UH, PROGRAM, WHICH GIVES A CITY A FEW, UH, SUMMER HIRES THROUGH CAREER SERVICE BROWARD. 
          THEY'RE ALL STUDENTS. 
          SO WE WERE HOPING TO, UM, AWARD ALL OF THEM. 
          WELL AT LEAST HAVE YOU PRESENT THE LAPTOPS TO ALL OF THE STUDENTS, NOT JUST GAME CHANGERS. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN THAT WAS NOT CLEAR ON THAT MAYOR. 
          SO TO YOU, MADAM MAYOR, HOLD ON A MOMENT. 
          UM, UH, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL, ATTORNEY , UM, YEAH, MAYOR AND, AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR THAT YOUR CODE IS WHAT IS AT ISSUE HERE RELATIVE TO THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY. 
          UM, YOU CANNOT, BY RESOLUTION, GO AGAINST THE CODE, EXCEED WHAT YOU ARE OBLIGATED BY THE CODE. 
          SO IF THERE'S AN AUTHORIZATION REQUEST TO EXTEND THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT, AGAIN, THE WAY TO DO THAT IF YOU WANT TO DO IT MM-HMM . 
          IS BY AMENDING THE CODE. 
          CAN'T DO IT BY A RESOLUTION. 
          MR. HARRISON, THANK YOU TO, TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S POINT. 
          I'M, I'M ASKING, I'M TASKING. 
          WELL, THROUGH THE CITY, THROUGH THE MAN, THROUGH THE MAYOR , THROUGH THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER, I'M TASKING STAFF TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT ACCOMPLISHES THAT WITHOUT ASKING US TO RAISE THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE ACT CITY MANAGER. 
          THE FIRST THING, THE, THE SECOND THING IS, UM, IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER IN DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THESE LAPTOPS THE KIDS SHOULD HAVE, OR THEY SHOULD JUST BE USING TEMPORARILY. 
          I BELIEVE THE KIDS SHOULD HAVE THESE LAPTOPS. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. 
          I I, I THINK WE DO A LOT MORE IMPACT IF WE LET THE KIDS HAVE LAPTOPS, UH, THAT THEY CAN TAKE HOME. 
          BUT, UM, YEAH, THOSE ARE MY 2 CENTS. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. SO THE LAPTOPS YOU GIVE, RIGHT? IT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT IS THAT GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GONNA BE DOING EVERY YEAR? EVERY YEAR WE ARE GOING TO BE GIVING OUT ALMOST 30 LAPTOPS THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          UH, PROBABLY NOT. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER, REMEMBER, WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE EVERY YEAR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND DURING THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT LAST YEAR, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE SPOKE TO, UM, THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR ABOUT THE BSO TO SEE HOW WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, AWARD OUR STUDENTS, UH, FOR COMPLETING THE PROGRAM AND ALSO THOSE SYEP STUDENTS THAT COME HERE AND WORK WITH OUR STAFF. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, IT WAS A, AN ITEM THAT WAS, UH, UM, PRIORITIZED DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          BUT IF WE SPEND, UH, QUITE A FEW DOLLARS THIS YEAR, IT MAY BE LESS AVAILABLE IN THE UPCOMING YEAR. 
          UH, WE HAVE STARTED OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSIONS, UH, AS IT RELATES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUNDS. 
          AND RIGHT NOW, THAT IS NOT A PART OF THE PURCHASE REQUEST FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR IN 2026. 
          MS. BAR, IF WE GO AHEAD. 
          CONTINUE. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I, I DON'T, I MEAN, THE IDEA OF GIVING OUT THE LAPTOPS ARE GOOD, BUT IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT EVERY YEAR. 
          SO YOU'RE GIVING THESE STUDENTS THIS, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA TELL THEIR FRIENDS, EVERYBODY GONNA KNOW THEN NOW THAT THAT'S OTHER SET OF STUDENTS COMING IN WON'T BE GETTING THOSE LAPTOPS. 
          WHY, WHY ARE WE CHOOSING TO DO, GIVE AWAY THE LAPTOPS? WHY WE MADE THAT? WHO MADE THAT DECISION? UH, AGAIN, THROUGH YOUR MADAM MAYOR, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS ON THE BUDGET, UH, FOR 2025. 
          AND THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF THE REQUEST, UH, WHICH WAS WE, WE THOUGHT WAS ACCEPTED AND, AND APPROVED BY OUR CITY COMMISSION. 
          IF THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA CONTINUE OR MOVE, MOVE AHEAD WITH, WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, YOU KNOW, ELIMINATE THE, THE PURCHASE. 
          AGAIN, REMEMBER THE BUDGET IS A PLAN, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY CHANGE THE PLAN. 
          MS. FABI, IF WE THIS YEAR GIVE LAPTOP LAPTOPS TO OUR GAME CHANGERS AND OUR SYEP STUDENTS, THEN THAT'S GOING TO SET A PRECEDENCE OF YEARS TO COME 
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THAT KIDS ARE GOING TO MAYBE JUST GET INTO THE GAME CHANGERS PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE LAPTOPS. 
          USUALLY, MS. BOBBY, HOW MANY SENIORS DO WE HAVE GIVING LAPTOPS TO SENIORS MAY BE AN ALTERNATIVE IF THEY COMPLETE THE GAME CHANGERS PROGRAM. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S IT FOR YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          THAT'S AN AVENUE THAT WE CAN EXPLORE. 
          IT'S TOTALLY UP TO THE DESIRES OF THE COMMISSION. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM. 
          MADAM VICE. 
          YES, MS. BOBBY, HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND RIGHT NOW? UH, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          WHAT'S APPROPRIATED FOR 2025 IS $80,000. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MADAM MAYOR. 
          MR. HARRISON, UM, HAVE MONEY. 
          HOW MANY LAPTOPS THIS YEAR ARE YOU, ARE WE LOOKING TO, UM, IDEALLY PURCHASE? 'CAUSE I'M HEARING GAME CHANGERS AND SYEP. 
          SO WHAT'S THE TOTAL PROPOSED, UH, THE OUT OF MAYOR IN TERMS OF REPLACEMENT PLUS GAME CHANGERS? I, I COULDN'T GIVE YOU THE NUMBER, BUT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE 30 GAME CHANGERS STUDENTS, AND THEN WE DO HAVE, UH, I THINK 10 OTHER SYEP STUDENTS. 
          AND OF COURSE, BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE DOING THIS UNTIL THE END OF JULY, WHOEVER REMAINS IN THE PROGRAM, I COULD IMAGINE WOULD BE THE ONLY STUDENTS RECEIVING THE LAPTOPS. 
          AGAIN, WE CAN ELIMINATE THE PROGRAM. 
          IT, IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO. 
          IT WAS A PART OF OUR DISCUSSIONS IN 2025 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT, AND IT IS IN THE BUDGET, AND IT WENT TO THE SHERIFF FOR HIS REVIEW AND APPROVAL. 
          UM, IF THIS IS NOT A PROGRAM THAT YOU WANNA HAVE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. 
          I KNOW THAT YOU SEEM LIKE YOU HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM. 
          WE CAN CERTAINLY JUST ELIMINATE IT OR LOOK AT OTHER AVENUES TO APPROACH, UH, AWARDING OUR STUDENTS WHO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHO WE WANT TO ENSURE, UM, KNOW THAT THE CITY CARES ABOUT 'EM. 
          MS. BOBBY, I, I'M NOT HEARING THAT. 
          WE DO NOT WANT THE PROGRAM. 
          WHAT I'M HEARING IS A CLARIFICATION ON THE FUNDS AND WHAT'S TO BE SPENT AND WHAT THE INCREASE AND HOW TO FACILITATE WHAT IT IS THAT IS NEEDED. 
          NOT THAT WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THE PROGRAM. 
          MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          YEAH, BOBBY, I, I'VE LEARNED MYSELF. 
          IF, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE A GOOD IDEA ABOUT HOW YOU PRESENT IT, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF DETERMINES HOW FAR IT GOES. 
          UM, I THINK WE COULD HAVE PRESENTED THIS A LITTLE, A LITTLE BETTER. 
          UH, BUT IN TERMS OF THE PROGRAM, I'M ALL FOR IT. 
          IF WE'RE USING LAW ENFORCEMENT TRU, UH, TRUST FUNDS, I THINK, UH, FOR THE YOUTH THAT'S GONNA KEEP THEM STAYING HOME AND IT, IT, IT TIES INTO THEM STAYING OUT OF TROUBLE. 
          UM, SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO JUST HEAR JUST A BETTER PLAN AS TO HOW WE CAN, UH, CELEBRATE OUR YOUTH. 
          I'M FOR THE LAPTOPS, THAT'S JUST ME AND MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL. 
          BUT I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING LAPTOPS AS FAR AS THE NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS ONE YEAR AT A TIME. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NEXT YEAR. 
          AND THERE MAY BE MORE LAW ENFORCE TRUST FUNDS OR, UH, ANOTHER WAY WE CAN GO ABOUT IT. 
          BUT, UH, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THAT SOUNDS LIKE WE WON'T HAVE THIS, THE ABILITY TO DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR, UM, IN MY OPINION. 
          BUT, UH, I'M FOR THE PROGRAM, I THINK IT SHOULD GO FOR THE YOUTH. 
          UH, I JUST WANT US TO EXPLORE THE BEST STRATEGY POSSIBLE TO GET IT DONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          MADAM MAYOR. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS HAS A QUESTION. 
          SEE YOUR HAND. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I, I'M FOR THE, JUST TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, I AM FOR THE GAME CHANGERS RECEIVING COMPUTERS. 
          THE THING IS THAT IS HAVING A SUSTAINABLE PLAN THAT OTHERS WILL RECEIVE THAT AS WELL. 
          I HEARD $80,000 AND MONIES WILL BE USED FROM THAT IN ORDER TO GIVE THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROGRAM AS WELL AS, UM, THE CAREER SOURCE, UM, YOUTHS AS WELL THAT ARE THERE. 
          BUT ARE WE ABLE TO KEEP THAT UP? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO THINK AHEAD WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE ARE DEALING WITH YOUTHS. 
          I HEARD ANOTHER GOOD, GREAT RECOMMENDATION. 
          WHY NOT LOOK AT SENIORS? SO THESE ARE THINGS, THE PRESENTATION WAS NOT VERY CLEAR TO ME, MS. FABI, AS I EXPRESSED PREVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO REALLY DELVE INTO, I CAN SEE TWO DIFFERENT, UM, RESOLUTION COMING TO US WITH THE FACT THAT IT NORMALLY COMES TO US WHEN IT'S OVER THE AMOUNT OF WHAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN DO. 
          SO IF THAT'S INCLUDED IN THERE, AND WE'RE DEALING JUST WITH THE DELL, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE DEFINITELY THE ECC DEFINITELY NEEDS AN UPGRADE RIGHT THERE. 
          IT DOES. 
          I I AM ALL IN FAVOR FOR THAT. 
          BUT 
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THE TWO WAS NOT PRESENTED PROPERLY. 
          UM, WE DO CARE. 
          WE DO CARE. 
          WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THERE AT THE INITIAL, THE INITIAL, UM, WELCOMING OF THE GAME CHANGERS AND ENCOURAGING THEM IN ORDER FOR THEM TO PROGRESS, YOU KNOW. 
          BUT HERE AGAIN, THE PRESENTATION, THAT'S ONE OF MY BIG THING WAS NOT PRESENTED TO US. 
          AND YOU ALWAYS DO A GREAT JOB, MS. BOBBY. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS TIME I DON'T THINK THE PRESENTATION WAS DONE PROPERLY, BUT TO HAVE A PLAN WHEREBY IT CAN CONTINUE NOT JUST FOR THIS YEAR, BUT TO CONTINUE AS WELL. 
          SO IF THESE, UM, TRUST FUND WILL BE AROUND FOR US TO ACCESS THEM NEXT YEAR, THAT'S GREAT IN THE YEARS TO COME. 
          THAT'S MY COMMENT. 
          MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRIS, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I DON'T WANNA BELABOR TO POINT TOO MUCH. 
          SOMETHING JUST CAME TO MIND. 
          UM, SO THESE TRUST FUNDS, WE WERE, WE WERE GIVEN, UH, THESE, THESE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUNDS. 
          AND, UM, MY, MY QUESTION IS, WHEN WE APPLIED FOR IT, DID WE APPLY FOR IT SPECIFICALLY FOR COMPUTERS? FOR YOU? MAD MAYOR. 
          IT IS A, A REVENUE SOURCE, UH, TO THE CITY. 
          UH, BSO COLLECTS OR, OR CAESAR'S PROPERTY OR FOR ITS PROPERTY, LIKE TANGIBLE PROPERTY, MAYBE CARS, HOUSES. 
          AND THEY SELL BASED UPON WHATEVER CRIMINAL ACTIVITY HAS HAPPENED. 
          AND WE GET THE PROCEEDS FROM, FROM THOSE DOLLARS. 
          SO IT'S NOT A GRANT PROGRAM. 
          I SEE. 
          IT IS NOT LIKE WE HAVE TO REQUEST ANY MONEY. 
          IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A REVENUE SOURCE TO THE CITY AND IT'S, AND IT'S GOVERNED VERY TIGHTLY BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 
          OKAY, MADAM MAYOR, ONE MORE. 
          MR. HARRISON, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. 
          I JUST, UH, FEEL LIKE IF, AGAIN, I WASN'T HERE AT THE TIME, BUT YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHEN WE CUT THE BUDGET, WE SAY IT'S FOR SOMETHING AND IT'S OKAY IF WE COME BACK. 
          BUT, UM, UH, I THINK WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID BEFORE, JUST FIND A BETTER STRATEGY TO GO ABOUT WHAT WE TRYING THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU NO MORE. 
          ALRIGHT, MADAM MAYOR, MS. NICOLE HALL IS ONLINE FOR QUESTION MS. HALL. 
          GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES. 
          YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, I ACTUALLY, WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER EASTON HARRISON SAID WAS ALONG THE LINES, I JUST WANTED CLARITY ON THE FACT THAT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND IS AN, IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S ALLOCATED TO THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES EVERY YEAR. 
          AND THAT IS MONEY THAT IS AVAILABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO THE CITY TO SPEND. 
          UM, THE, THE, THIS IS A QUESTION, BY THE WAY. 
          I JUST WANNA FIND OUT IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF THAT'S WHAT, UH, I AM, I'M, I'M GLEANING FROM THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEING GIVEN ALSO, WHAT ARE THE, BECAUSE WITH A FUND LIKE THAT, THERE ARE TYPICALLY OUTLINED THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE WITH FED FUND. 
          SO WHAT ARE THE OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE? I MEAN, DID THE COMMISSION GET A COPY OF THE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES THAT CAN, THAT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FUND CAN GO TOWARDS? UM, SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S MY, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, WHILE IT'S NOT COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S STILL CITY DOLLARS BECAUSE IT'S GAINED THROUGH ISSUES OR WHATEVER CONFISCATION IS DONE WITHIN THE CITY, UM, OR AN ALLOTMENT THAT IS GIVEN TO THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKE. 
          SO IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN THE STORMWATER FUND OR WHATEVER OTHER FUND. 
          AND THESE ARE JUST DIFFERENT BUCKETS. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S, IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT IT'S NOT THE GENERAL FUND. 
          THESE ARE JUST VARIOUS DIFFERENT BUCKETS. 
          SO I JUST WANT SOME CLARITY ON ONE OR IS IT, IS IT VARIOUS DIFFERENT BUCKETS AND THE CITY COMMISSION DOES, IT'S NOTHING IS BEING GIVEN TO THEM. 
          IT'S CITY DOLLARS AND THE CITY COMMISSION HAS THE RIGHT TO, UM, EXACT WHAT IS GIVEN AND ALSO WHAT ARE THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE GIVEN, UM, REGARDING THE FUND. 
          AND FINALLY, I, WHILE I, I'VE WORKED WITH MANY STUDENTS, I AM, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT I'M A BIG CONCERNED BECAUSE WAS IT GIVEN LAST YEAR TO GAME CHANGERS? WAS IT GIVEN THE YEAR BEFORE? WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE GAME CHANGERS PROGRAM? UH, IT SOUNDS GOOD TO SAY THAT IT'S GONNA KEEP THEM HOME, BUT WHERE'S THE EFFICACY TO SHOW THAT GETTING A LAPTOP IS GONNA KEEP THEM HOME. 
          AND ONCE THEY GET THE LAPTOP AND TAKE IT HOME, THE NEW GAME CHANGERS THAT COME, WHAT ARE THEY USING? UM, SO I'M A LITTLE BIT, UH, JUST WANT SOME CLARITY ON MAYBE THE LAPTOP SHOULD BE THE PROPERTY OF THE CITY FOR THEM TO 
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USE. 
          AND THEN AFTER TWO YEARS THEY'RE REPLACED, OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          MS. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. HALL. 
          MS. SPOT, UH, THREE OF MADAM MAYOR. 
          THAT WAS, UH, QUITE A, QUITE A FEW, UH, QUESTIONS. 
          UM, MS. MS. HALL, I'LL DO MY BEST TO, UH, PROVIDE A RESPONSE. 
          UH, I THINK I HEARD, UH, YOU, YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT BLENDING THE FUNDS. 
          UH, I BELIEVE IT'S CHAPTER EITHER 1 93 OR 1 97 THAT GOVERNS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUNDS AND THEY CANNOT BE BLENDED WITH THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO THESE FUNDS MUST BE ACCOUNTED FOR AND REPORTED SEPARATE AND APART FROM GENERAL FUND. 
          THAT'S NUMBER ONE. 
          UM, NUMBER TWO, UM, I WANNA READ, UH, WHAT WAS ADOPTED OR APPROVED FOR, FOR PURCHASE? AGAIN, THIS WAS A PLAN. 
          UH, REMEMBER WE, WE APPROVE THE PLAN MONTHS IN ADVANCE, AND IF THE PLAN CHANGES, I'M OKAY WITH THE PLAN CHANGES. 
          BUT LEMME JUST READ THIS TO YOU. 
          UM, EXPENDITURES, THIS IS SPECIFIC TO FUND, UH, 1 0 7, WHICH IS OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND. 
          AND IT'S STRAIGHT FROM OUR BUDGET DOCUMENT. 
          UH, EXPENDITURES. 
          EXPENDITURES ARE LIMITED TO OPERATIONS RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MUST BE APPROVED THROUGH WRITTEN CERTIFICATION FROM THE CHIEF OF POLICE, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED. 
          THE REQUEST, UM, ACTIVITIES ANTICIPATED FOR 2025 INCLUDE THE POLICE EXPLORE PROGRAM, YOUTH AND SENIOR PROGRAMS SUCH AS NIGHT OUT AGAINST CRIME, CHILDREN'S WEAK, AND YOUTH COUNCIL. 
          UH, SO, SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO USE SOME OF THE, UH, FUNDING FOR THAT PURPOSE. 
          BUT ALSO TOO, WE WANTED TO, FOR THE SUMMER PORTION OF IT BY THE LAPTOPS. 
          AGAIN, WE DO NOT HAVE TO CONSIDER IT AT ALL. 
          UM, I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S AGAIN, JUST A, SOME, SOME HESITATIONS. 
          UM, WE CAN COME UP WITH A NEW PLAN OR A NEW APPROACH, OR NOT EVEN DO IT AT ALL. 
          'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, UM, EVERY BUDGET YEAR IS DIFFERENT. 
          UM, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUNDS CANNOT BE USED FOR REOCCURRING, UM, OPERATING COSTS. 
          UH, SO EVERY TIME WE DISCUSS LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST, TRUST FUND, WE ARE LOOKING, HOW CAN WE IMPROVE OR HOW CAN WE ENHANCE FOR THAT UPCOMING YEAR ONLY. 
          UH, SO, SO AGAIN, UM, I CAN'T SAY THAT IT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, DO ON AN ONGOING BASIS, UNLESS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION DOES DESIRE. 
          BUT IT WAS ONE OF THE APPROACHES, UH, THAT WE USED WITH DEVELOPING THE BUDGET FOR 2025. 
          MS. HALL, I HOPE I ANSWERED OR AT LEAST TRY TO RESPOND TO YOUR CONCERNS. 
          I THINK SHE'S GOING, THANK YOU MS. FABI, YOUR MIND, ME, COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS. SO TO AND TO ELMO THIS AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT , UM, YOU HAVE LOTS TO GO. 
          I KNOW, RIGHT? UM, I DON'T MIND THEM GETTING THE COMPUTERS, BUT I, IT'S NOT FAIR TO GIVE THESE 29 OR 40 STUDENTS AND THEN THE OTHERS THAT ARE COMING IN WON'T BE GETTING IT. 
          SO I, I DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA AT ALL. 
          MAYBE WE COULD GIVE THEM SOMETHING ELSE. 
          IF WE WANNA REALLY SHOW THEM WE CARE, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE WE CAN DO BESIDES THE COMPUTER. 
          AND AS THE MAYOR SAID, MAYBE JUST GIVE IT TO ONLY THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, KIDS THAT ARE THE SENIORS THAT ARE GRADUATING FROM HIGH SCHOOL. 
          THAT WOULD BE A NICE LITTLE GIFT FOR THEM. 
          GRADUATING AND NEEDED FOR COLLEGE. 
          YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD DO THAT SOME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT NOT EVERYBODY. 
          'CAUSE WE ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT CON CON EVERY SINGLE YEAR, AND THAT'S NOT FAIR. 
          SO YOU, MADAM MAYOR, I'LL WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON WHAT WE WILL BRING BACK TO THE COMMISSION IN TERMS OF, UM, NOT ONLY THE DELL AUTHORIZATION, BUT ALSO THE PURCHASE IF WE MOVE AHEAD WITH THE PURCHASE OF THE COMPUTERS OR LAPTOPS FOR OUR STUDENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MS. LOBBY. 
          MADAM MANAGER. 
          OH, COMM. 
          MAD MAYOR, COMMISSIONER THOMAS HAS THE QUESTION AGAIN. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS, THIS IS MY LAST COMMENT, PLEASE. 
          I JUST HEARD IF WE ARE TRYING TO IN INTEGRATE THE YOUNG ADULTS INTO WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE CITY, PERHAPS IF THIS IS APPROVED WITH GIVING THEM LAPTOPS, HOW CAN THEY ASSESS TO BETTER, UM, HELP, YOU KNOW, MAYBE INNOVATIVELY ASSESS TO SAY, HOW WOULD THEY GO ABOUT PROVIDING SAFETY WITHIN THE CITY? YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO INCORPORATE IF IT'S BEING GIVEN FROM PEOPLE DOING THEFTS. 
          SO ALL THESE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS. 
          WHY WE GOT THE MONEY FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND. 
          HOW CAN THE YOUNG ADULTS INCORPORATE OR SAY, HAVE A SAFETY PLAN IN ORDER TO PASS THAT ON AS WELL TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          GET THEM ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS, NOT JUST HANDING THEM OUT SOMETHING, BUT HOW CAN WE HAVE DATA FROM THEM AND HOW CAN WE, YOU KNOW, UM, GET THEM ENGAGED IN WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING. 
          I KNOW THEY'RE BEING TAUGHT A LOT, SO MAKE THIS BE SOMETHING IF WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM TO, HOW CAN THEY GIVE BACK BY USING THESE COMPUTERS? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK 
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YOU, MS. BOB. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          UM, STAFF HAS HEARD YOUR CONCERNS I HAVE AS WELL. 
          AND WE WILL, I CAN DEFINITELY SEE I WHERE CLARITY IS NEEDED IN THE AGENDA ITEM. 
          AND WE'LL BE SURE TO BRING THIS ITEM BACK WITH THE CLARITY, UM, ACHIEVING THE BEST OPERATIONAL NEEDS OF THE CITY, MADAM MAYOR. 
          UM, NEXT ITEM IS ITEM FIVE E, WHICH IS DISCUSSION REGARDING APPLYING FOR THE STAFF AND FOR ADEQUATE FIRE EMERGENCY RESPONSE. 
          SAFER GRANT D, WE DIDN'T DO D I'M AHEAD OF MYSELF. 
          MY APOLOGY  DISCUSSION 
          [D.  DISCUSSION REGARDING AN INCREASE TO THE PURCHASE AUTHORIZATION  WITH SHI INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION USING THE NASPO ALTERNATE CONTRACT SOURCE NO. 43230000-23-NASPO-ACS AND EXECUTED CONTRACT NO. CTR060028 COMPETITIVELY PROCURED BY THE STATE OF ARIZONA FOR SOFTWARE VALUE ADDED RESELLER PRODUCTS AND SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE APPLICABLE SOFTWARE PUBLISHERS AND MANUFACTURES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS ($50,000.00) PER FISCAL YEAR.]
REGARDING AN INCREASE TO THE PURCHASE AUTHORIZATION WITH SHY INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION USING THE NASPA ALTERNATIVE CONTRACT SOURCE NUMBER 4 3 2 3 0 0 0 23, NPO, A CS AND EXECUTED CONTRACT AS NUMBERED COMPETITIVELY PROCURED BY THE STATE OF ARIZONA FOR SOFTWARE VALUE ADDED RESELLER PRODUCT SERVICES BY THE APPLICABLE SOFTWARE PUBLISHERS AND MANUFACTURERS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $50,000. 
          AND THIS ITEM, UM, I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME, WOULD YOU LIKE TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM, MS. BOBBY? YES, MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO, UH, WITHDRAW. 
          WITHDRAW AT THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MANAGER. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          NEXT ITEM NUMBER 
          [E.  DISCUSSION REGARDING APPLYING FOR THE STAFFING FOR ADEQUATE FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE (SAFER) GRANT]
FIVE E DISCUSSION REGARDING APPLYING FOR THE STAFFING FOR ADEQUATE FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE, SAFER GRANT. 
          AND I BELIEVE BOBBY OR YOUR TEAM WILL BE PRESENTING LEADING THIS ITEM. 
          AND THEN I BELIEVE CHIEF HACKETT HAS SOME COMMENTS AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY. 
          ONCE AGAIN FOR THE RECORD. 
          UH, BOBBY WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES. 
          I BELIEVE  HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED . 
          OKAY, SO THIS ITEM IS AGAIN FOR INFORMATION DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY, AND, UH, THE CITY DOES HAPPEN, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO, UH, APPLY FOR A GRANT, WHICH IS CALLED A STAFFING FOR ADEQUATE FIRE, AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE, OR WE, UH, CALL SAFER GRANT. 
          AND, UH, THE CHIEF, UM, THE FIRE CHIEF WILL BE PRESENTING THE ITEM TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT HE'S GOING TO BE, UH, REQUESTING IF YOU ALLOW US TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT. 
          AND IT'S SIMILAR TO THE COPS GRANT, WHERE WE HAVE TO KEEP, UH, PERSONNEL ON STAFF FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN MAINTAIN THEM FOR ONE EXTRA YEAR. 
          SO IT IS A, A HUGE COMMITMENT TO THE CITY. 
          SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO YIELD TO THE FIRE CHIEF, CHIEF HACKETT. 
          GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. 
          MADAM VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY MANAGER, CITY STAFF, AND THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF LAUDERDALE LAKES. 
          FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS CHAZ HACKETT. 
          I AM YOUR DISTRICT CHIEF OF FIRE RESCUE, REPRESENTING THE BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE, DEPARTMENT OF FIRE RESCUE. 
          I'M HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO GIVE DATA THAT HIGHLY RECOMMENDS THE IMP IMPLEMENTATION OF A THIRD RESCUE UNIT TO BE DEPLOYED FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES TO FURTHER PROTECT THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF LAUDERDALE LAKES. 
          WHAT'S CONCERNING ABOUT FIRE RESCUE SERVICES IN THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES IS THE AMOUNT OF EMERGENCIES THAT WE RESPOND TO. 
          IN 2010, THERE WERE JUST OVER 5,300 EMERGENCY CALLS FOR SERVICE. 
          WHEN WE FAST FORWARD TO 2024, WE RESPONDED TO OVER 8,200 CALLS FOR EMERGENCIES. 
          THAT'S A 55% INCREASE FROM 2010. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IN 2010, THE CITY'S ONLY LADDER TRUCK WAS CUT FROM SERVICE DUE TO FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS. 
          THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE RESPONDING TO AN ADDITIONAL 3000 CALLS WITH ONE LESS RESPONDING UNIT. 
          THE CITY CURRENTLY DEPLOYS TWO RESCUE UNITS. 
          THESE MEMBERS, JUST LIKE ALL FIRE OPERATION MEMBERS STATION IN LAUDER LAKES, ARE DUAL CERTIFIED FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS. 
          THE RESCUE TRUCK'S MAIN PURPOSE IS TO CARE FOR THE SICK AND INJURED AND TRANSPORT THEM TO THE HOSPITAL. 
          THEY'RE ALSO PART OF A TEAM THAT EXTRICATE VICTIMS FROM CAR ACCIDENTS, ENTERS FIRES FOR EXTINGUISHMENT AND CONDUCTS SEARCH AND RESCUE OPERATIONS. 
          THE METRIC WE USE TO DETERMINE HOW BUSY A UNIT IS, IS CALLED THE UNIT HOUR UTILIZATION. 
          IT'S CONSIDERED AS AN INDUSTRY STANDARD THAT ANYTHING ABOVE 30% IS UNHEALTHY. 
          UNHEALTHY BEING UNITS ARE NOT READILY AVAILABLE FOR RESPONSE. 
          UNHEALTHY DUE TO INCREASED WEAR AND TEAR ON VEHICLES 
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AND UNHEALTHY TO WHERE IT AFFECTS THE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS. 
          CURRENTLY, BOTH RESCUE TRUCKS ARE AT 40% JUST RUNNING EMERGENCY CALLS. 
          THE FIRE ENGINE IS AT 34%. 
          WHEN WE ADD ALL THE ADDITIONAL TRAINING THAT IS NEEDED JUST TO STAY COMPLIANT WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR FIREFIGHTERS PARAMEDIC, THE CEUS, WE'RE NEARING 75% WHEN WE IMPLEMENT OUR TRAINING AND CONDUCT OUR DAILY INVENTORY, INSPECTION AND MAINTENANCE OF APPARATUS, TAKE CARE OF OUR STATIONS, CONDUCT PRE-FIRE PLANS, HYDRANTS, PUBLIC EDUCATION, AND IN-SERVICE TRAINING. 
          SO AT THIS TIME, THE SAFER GRANT WOULD ADD ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL IF THE CITY WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          UM, I'M HERE TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE CITY MIGHT HAVE. 
          MADAM VICE MAYOR. 
          YES, MR. HACKETT, FIRE CHIEF. 
          CHIEF HACKETT. 
          HOW MUCH MONEY ARE YOU LOOKING ON RIGHT NOW? YOU ARE HOPING TO GET, IF YOU, THE GRANT MADAM MAYOR THROUGH YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          FOR THE PERSONNEL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WOULD, UM, IT WOULD BE VARYING COSTS. 
          I BELIEVE THE FIRST YEAR THE GRANT COVERS 75% MM-HMM . 
          THE SECOND YEAR THE GRANT COVERS 75% AND THE THIRD YEAR IT COVERS 35%. 
          SO THE CITY'S COST ALLOCATION WOULD BE 25% THE FIRST AND SECOND YEAR, AND THEN 65% THE THIRD YEAR. 
          WE CAN GET YOU THOSE EXACT FIGURES ON WHAT IT WOULD COST FULL FULLY FOR YEAR FOUR. 
          UM, AS OF TONIGHT, I DON'T HAVE THAT WORDING FOR THE GRANTS. 
          UH, SORRY. 
          THE, UH, MANAGEMENT, SORRY, B, BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT OFFICE FOR THAT. 
          MADAM MAYOR. 
          MAYOR CHIEF HACKETT. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO GET THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          MR. HARRISON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION CHIEF. 
          AND, UM, I MENTIONED THIS LAST TIME, BUT THANK YOU AGAIN FOR SHOWING ME AROUND AT THE FIRE STATION. 
          UM, WITH THAT TOUR, UM, I, I SAW FIRSTHAND NOT JUST THE EQUIPMENT YOU USE, BUT WHAT'S NEEDED. 
          AND WE ALSO WENT OVER SOME NUMBERS AND, UH, TO MY COLLEAGUES. 
          THE AREA THAT WE LIVE IN, UM, IS, UM, ARE USING THESE SERVICES A LOT BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION WE HAVE. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME HOTSPOTS THAT ARE HOTSPOT, NOT JUST FOR LAKES, BUT IN THIS AREA OF THE COUNTY, LIKE SOMERSET, UM, AND ANY OTHER PLACES WITH SENIOR HOMES. 
          UM, I'M IN, I'M IN FAVOR OF HOWEVER WE CAN, UH, GET RESOURCES TO, TO HELP WITH THAT. 
          UM, I DO WANT TO SEE WHAT THE THIRD AND FOURTH YEAR WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, OVER TIME. 
          AND, UM, I ALSO WANTED TO SAY FOR, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, IN ADDITION TO THIS CONVERSATION, UH, I ALSO WANT US TO CONSIDER, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, LOOK TO HIRE A FULL-TIME GRANTS WRITER. 
          UH, SO WHEN WE HAVE GRANTS THAT COME UP, YOU CAN HAVE SOMEBODY FULL-TIME ON STAFF TO GO AFTER THESE TYPES OF THINGS ALONG WITH THE APPROPRIATE, UM, DEPARTMENTS. 
          UH, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU AGAIN CHIEF AND, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE INFORMATION ON IT. 
          TAKE HER OFF. 
          OH, THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          I, I THINK IT'S AN, UH, EXCELLENT PROGRAM. 
          I'M IN FAVOR AND AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID, WE DEFINITELY NEED A GRANT WRITER THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, FACILITATES. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY GOOD GRANTS OUT THERE AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S EXCELLENT. 
          AND I'M IN FAVOR BACK HERE. 
          THANK, DO WE HAVE SOMEONE FOR NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          AND, UM, THE MORE FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE HAVE, THE MORE EQUIP WE HAVE, THE MORE EFFICIENT WE CAN BE IN SERVICING OUR RESIDENTS. 
          WE DO HAVE A GREAT ELDER POPULATION IN OUR CITY THAT I'M SURE UTILIZES OUR SERVICES AT A VERY HIGH RATE. 
          SO THIS CERTAINLY WOULD HELP TO COMPLIMENT WHAT WE CAN DO. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MS. BOBBY. 
          MAD MAYOR, IF I MAY, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, UH, SO IS IT THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMISSION THAT WE MOVE AHEAD AND APPLY FOR THE GRANT COMMISSIONER HARRISON? YES. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          WELL, YES. 
          THIS IS A WORKSHOP THOUGH, SO WE CAN DO THAT. 
          JUST WANTS TO GET CENSUS CENSUS CONSENSUS? YES. 
          CONSENSUS? YES. 
          YES. 
          THUMBS UP. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS? IT'S YES FOR ME. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S YES FOR ME, THAT'S, YES FOR ME AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          JUST AS A POINT OF INFORMATION. 
          SORRY, I HEARD SOME FEEDBACK. 
          UM, THE DEADLINE FOR THE GRANT IS JULY 3RD. 
          OH, JUST A FEW DAYS. 
          IT'S A FEW DAYS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YES TO YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          SO ARE WE, SHOULD WE GET A RESOLUTION FOR IT? FOR THE RESOLUTION WILL COME BACK. 
          IT'S NOT NEEDED TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT. 
          OKAY. 
          IT WILL COME BACK AT 
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THE NEXT MEETING. 
          AND JUST FOR CLARITY, ALSO, IN ORDER FOR US TO, IF WE WERE AWARDED THIS GRANT, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A FIRETRUCK TO BE ABLE TO HOST THE STAFF. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CLEAR FOR CLARITY'S SAKE. 
          SO JUST TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMISSION IS AWARE THAT A FIRE TRUCK WOULD BE NEEDED AS WELL TO, ARE YOU SAYING, ARE YOU SAYING MADAM MANAGER THAT, OR CHIEF HACKETT, THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PURCHASE A FIRE TRUCK? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          OR I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR AND THAT THE CHIEF EXPLAINED NOT TO THAT. 
          SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT. 
          MADAM MAYOR, CHIEF PACKET, IF YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN THAT PIECE. 
          HOLD ON, HOLD ON. 
          OKAY. 
          MADAM MAYOR THROUGH YOU. 
          YES SIR. 
          SO THE STAFFING WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT A THIRD RESCUE UNIT. 
          CURRENTLY WE HAVE TWO RIGHT NOW. 
          THE UTILIZATION OF BOTH UNITS ARE WELL ABOVE INDUSTRY STANDARDS OF 30%. 
          WE'RE 40% JUST ON RUNNING THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL CALLS, UM, JUST FOR THE RESCUE UNITS WHEN WE START TO ADD THE NECESSARY TRAINING. 
          UM, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE DO, THEY'RE NEARING 75%. 
          SO THE THRESHOLD IS AT 30. 
          WE'RE NEARING 75%. 
          A THIRD RESCUE UNIT AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS, IS NEEDED. 
          UM, SO THE, THE SAFER GRANT WOULD ADD THE STAFFING TO THE CITY, BUT IN ORDER TO PUT THE RESCUE UNIT INTO SERVICE, UM, THE STAFFING WOULD GO ON THE RESCUE UNIT. 
          SO, UM, AND THE RESCUE UNIT COMPRISES OF THREE MEMBERS PER SHIFT. 
          WE WORK OFF OF THREE SHIFTS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE WOULD ACCOUNT FOR MEMBERS THAT ARE SICK, VACATION, WHATEVER THE CASE IS. 
          SO THE STAFFING NUMBERS WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAN NINE. 
          'CAUSE WE WORK OFF THREE SHIFTS. 
          THREE TIMES THREE IS NINE. 
          UH, WE GENERALLY WORK OFF OF A, I FORGET HOW THEY CALL IT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING ANYWHERE BETWEEN 12 TO 15 MEMBERS. 
          TOTAL CHIEF, COULD WE ACCOMMODATE THE NEW STAFFING AND SERVICES WITHOUT A NEW ENGINE? SO WE DON'T NEED THE FIRE ENGINE. 
          WHAT WE NEED IS AN AN AMBULANCE, A RESCUE TRUCK. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO THAT RESCUE TRUCK HOUSES BOTH DUAL CERTIFIED FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS, THEY RESPOND TO MEDICAL CALLS, IS WHERE WE NEED IT THE MOST RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, AND THEY ALSO GO INTO THE FIRES TO FIGHT THE FIRE WITH THE FIRE ENGINE. 
          THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE SEEING IS WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED, UH, HIGH ACUITY CALLS, RIGHT? SO CALLS THAT HAVE THE PROBABILITY OF LEADING TO DEATH. 
          UM, THERE'S AROUND 600 PER YEAR RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS A LOT OF OUR UNITS ARE BUSY RUNNING THE OTHER CALLS AND NOT REALLY FREE TO PROVIDE MEDICAL TREATMENT RAPIDLY TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS. 
          CHIEF, ABOUT HOW MUCH IS THE CALL? SEVEN AMBULANCE. 
          SO THE RESCUE TRUCK IS APPROXIMATELY IN TODAY'S DOLLARS AROUND $650,000 AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A THREE YEAR LEAD TIME. 
          SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF THE CITY WERE TO DECIDE THAT WE CAN PUT A RESCUE TRUCK IN SERVICE, IF THE CITY WERE TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT TO PURCHASE ONE, WE AS AN AGENCY WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT ONE HERE IN THE MEANTIME, UM, UNTIL THAT TRUCK ARRIVED. 
          SO I THINK THROUGH BOBBY, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THAT OVER A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME, BUT I'VE NEVER PURCHASED A VEHICLE LIKE THAT PERSONALLY. 
          SO,  TALK TO US, MS. BOBBY, TALK TO US. 
          LORD, YOU MADAM MAYOR AGAIN FOR THE RECORD. 
          BOBBY WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES. 
          UH, THAT IS A LONG-TERM PLAN AND IT'S A LONG-TERM FINANCIAL COMMITMENT. 
          UM, IN TODAY'S DOLLARS, UH, CHIEF HACKETT DID MENTION THE VEHICLE CURRENTLY COSTS $650,000. 
          UH, TYPICALLY IT TAKES A FEW YEARS TO BUILD THAT TYPE OF, UH, VEHICLE. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME MARKUPS, MEANING, UM, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, REARRANGE THE, UH, VEHICLE SO IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR, UH, CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES, WHICH COULD INCREASE THE COST. 
          NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ENSURE THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE WHEN THAT TRUCK IS READY. 
          UM, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO OVER THE PERIOD OF THREE YEARS. 
          UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING OUR FIRE, UH, ASSESSMENT, UH, RATE RATES RIGHT NOW. 
          AND WE COULD CERTAINLY INCORPORATE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER RATE TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THAT SAVINGS, UM, THREE YEARS AHEAD OF TIME, TWO OR THREE YEARS AHEAD OF TIME, UM, SO THAT WE CAN START TO PLAN FOR IT. 
          UM, SO, AND ALSO TOO, UH, WHEN WE DO OUR YEAR END AUDITS, WE CAN ALSO, UH, UM, ENSURE THE FUNDING IS, UH, ASSIGNED OR RESTRICTED SO THAT WE KNOW THAT IT'S RESERVED FOR THE PURCHASE OF A UPCOMING VEHICLE. 
          BUT IT IS A LONG TERM COMMITMENT. 
          UM, SO IF WE WERE TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT AND IF WE WERE SUCCESSFUL, WHICH WE WOULDN'T KNOW IN SEPTEMBER OF 2025 IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL, UM, WE DO HAVE THAT COMMITMENT 
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OF THOSE THREE OFFICERS AND IT, AND IT'S SIMILAR TO, UM, THE COPS WHERE YOU GET SO MUCH PER YEAR UP TO, I THINK IT'S LIKE 75%. 
          UM, BUT EITHER WAY YOU ONLY GET SO MUCH MONEY PER OFFICER. 
          WELL, WHAT DO WE CALL IT? FIREFIGHTER? OR FIREFIGHTER? I SHOULDN'T SAY OFFICER, BUT FIREFIGHTER. 
          SO MUCH LIKE COPS. 
          UM, IT'S, UH, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE GONNA ACTUALLY COST. 
          WE, WE JUST HAVE AN AVERAGE BECAUSE YOUNGER, YOUNGER FIREFIGHTERS COST LESS. 
          THEN OF COURSE THE MORE SEASONED, UH, SO WE, IT IS A GAMBLE. 
          UM, BUT WE, WE DO OUR BEST TO ESTIMATE HOW MUCH WE THINK WE'LL NEED AND HOW MUCH WE'LL BE PAYING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND THE FIRE AND THE FIRE FUND. 
          UH, SO I JUST WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THAT THIS WILL BE A LONG TERM, UM, COMMITMENT, UM, FOR US TO ENSURE THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE, UM, OVER A PERIOD OF FOUR YEARS FOR THE, UH, FIREFIGHTERS. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, HOW, HOWEVER LONG IT MAY TAKE TO, UH, TO, UH, BUILD THE, UH, THE FIRE TRUCK. 
          SO MS. MARE, TO, TO SUMMARIZE FOR YEAR ONE AND TWO, WE RECEIVE 75% FROM THROUGH YOU. 
          MAD MAY, IT'S, IT'S UP TO IT, DEPENDING ON WHAT TIME OF THE YEAR WE RECEIVE THE OFFICERS. 
          BUT IT'S JUST A PERCENT OF THE CITY GENERAL FUND WILL PAY A PORTION. 
          THE GRANT WILL PAY A PORTION, THE FIRE FUND MAY PAY A PORTION, BUT, UM, FOR YEAR THREE, BUT IT'S UP TO, UP TO 35%. 
          YES. 
          AND GIVES, IT JUST DEPENDS ON, UM, HOW, UH, NOT HOW, BUT AT WHAT POINT IN TIME IN THE FISCAL YEAR WE RECEIVE THOSE, UH, FIREFIGHTERS AND YEAR FOUR, WE WOULD ASSUME THE ENTIRE 100%. 
          THE ENTIRE 100% IN ADDITION TO THE FIRETRUCK? IN ADDITION TO THE FIRETRUCK. 
          WELL, I MEAN THE FIRETRUCK IS UP IN THE AIR. 
          UH, IT COULD BE READY IN A YEAR. 
          UH, WE GOT REALLY LUCKY WITH OUR LAST FIRER THAT WE PURCHASED IT, IT WAS ALREADY READY, READY FOR SOMEONE ELSE THAT DIDN'T TAKE POSSESSION. 
          SO WE'RE ABLE TO GET IT, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S ABOUT TWO TO THREE YEARS. 
          SO IF IT'S TWO YEARS, THE FUNDING NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE. 
          IF IT'S THREE YEARS, THE FUNDING NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE. 
          IF IT'S EVEN LONGER THAN THAT, THE FUNDS NEED TO BE AVAILABLE. 
          MS. BADGER, WE WERE GOING TO LEAVE HERE AND NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FIRE TRUCK. 
          MM-HMM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE? ANYONE ELSE? OH, IT'S A HEAVY LOAD. 
          MADAM MAYOR. 
          MAD VICE MAYOR. 
          IT IS A HEAVY LOAD. 
          WE RARELY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE EXTRA HANDS ON, BUT EXTRA HANDS CAN ONLY COME WHEN WE SPENT MAYBE ROUGHLY ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS WITH EVERYTHING BY THE TIME YOU'VE ADDED INFLATION AND EVERYTHING. 
          'CAUSE SIX 50 IS JUST A BALL POINT FIGURE. 
          RIGHT NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WITH THE CLIMATE, WITH MONEY BEING GOING, BEING SO TIGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD REALLY WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT. 
          WHAT IS MADAM MAYOR? MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          I CAN'T SAY, ALTHOUGH THE DEADLINE IS JULY 3RD TO APPLY, WE ARE NOT HELD AT A STANDARD WHERE WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT. 
          SO IF IT SO PLEASES THE COMMISSION, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH APPLYING AND THEN COME UP WITH A PLAN. 
          AND IF WE WERE AWARDED THE GRANT, WE CAN MAKE A DECISION THEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAD MAYOR. 
          YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS HAS A QUESTION. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          SHE SHOULD BE HERE. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          UM, UNLESS I'M NOT HEARING INCORRECTLY, I HEARD THAT THE FIRE TRUCK, PER SE, IS NOT NEEDED, BUT THE RESCUE TRUCK, AM I CORRECT WITH THAT? THAT THAT'S THE FIRST THING FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          SECONDLY, I'M ALSO HEARING THAT FROM ACTING VICE MAY, UH, CITY MANAGER SAID A TRUCK WOULD BE NEEDED IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT. 
          SO THAT'S ALSO IN NEED OF CLARIFICATION. 
          I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH APPLYING FOR IT, UM, AND WAITING AND IN THE PROCESS, BUT I NEED CLARIFICATION WITH THAT BECAUSE AS I'M HEARING CHIEF HACKINSON, THE LOAD HAS GOTTEN HEAVIER AND, AND I'VE SEEN THAT WITH THE INCREASE OF SENIOR POPULATION, UM, WITHIN OUR AREA, IT, IT, IT'S REQUIRING MORE. 
          AND I ALSO BEING IN THAT SENIOR FIELD, YOU, YOU NEVER KNOW, BUT NEVER NEVERTHELESS, UM, I WOULD LIKE BETTER CLARIFICATION ON 
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WHETHER THE FIRE TRUCK, UH, WOULD BE NEEDED OR THE RESCUE TRUCK WOULD BE NEEDED IN ORDER TO FULFILL NOT ONLY THE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS WE'RE GETTING, BUT AN ADDITIONAL TRUCK THAT'S NEEDED TO INCORPORATE THEIR SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          MY APOLOGY, IF I MO MISSPOKE, WE WOULD NOT NEED, WE CAN APPLY WITHOUT HAVING THE FIRE TRUCK OR RESCUE OR THE ALTERNATIVE THAT THE CHIEF MENTIONED. 
          HOWEVER, IF WE WERE AWARDED THE GRANT, THEN WE WOULD NEED SOMEWHERE TO HOUSE THOSE FIREFIGHTERS. 
          BUT FOR APPLICATION, PROCESS, VEHICLE IS NOT NEEDED. 
          THE APPARATUS. 
          CHIEF HACKETT? YES, MA'AM. 
          JUST TO CONFIRM, THE APPARATUS IS NOT NEEDED TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT. 
          YOU CAN APPLY FOR THE GRANT WITHOUT THAT. 
          UM, IT WOULD BE THE ANTICIPATION IF YOU WERE TO RECEIVE THE GRANT, THEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THOSE MEMBERS WOULD GO ON THE RESCUE TRUCK. 
          SO THE RESCUE TRUCK, AND, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT EXPLAINING THE JARGON FROM THE BEGINNING, BUT THE RESCUE TRUCK IS OUR AMBULANCE, AND IT'S CALLED THE RESCUE TRUCK IS BECAUSE IT HOUSES FIREFIGHTERS AS WELL AS PARAMEDICS, THEY RESPOND TO BOTH EMERGENCY, EMERGENCY MEDICAL CALLS AS WELL AS GOING INTO THE FIRES. 
          AND THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED A RESCUE TRUCK. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO WE WOULD NOT NEED AN ADDITIONAL FIRE ENGINE. 
          WE WOULD NEED A THIRD RESCUE TRUCK, AN AMBULANCE, SO TO SPEAK. 
          UM, BUT JUST FOR CLARITY PURPOSES, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE ADDITIONAL MEMBERS THAT WILL BE HIRED ARE FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS. 
          SO THEY'RE RESPONDING TO BOTH CALLS, UM, FOR, FOR SERVICE. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF HACKETT. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          ITEM NUMBER FIVE 
          [F.  DISCUSSION REGARDING OUTSTANDING LIENS FOR ORIOLE PLAZA (SPONSORED BY VICE MAYOR CAUSWELL)]
F DISCUSSION REGARDING OUTSTANDING LIENS FOR OREO PLAZA. 
          OKAY. 
          SPONSORED BY VICE MAYOR TY SWELL, VICE MAYOR. 
          MADAM MAYOR. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          I, I THINK I DON'T WRITE AS IT STANDS, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN COLLECTED FOR THE OR OLD PLAZA AND WE HAVE NEVER DECIDED HOW BEST WE SHOULD USE IT, BUT I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING SUN SENTINEL AND OTHER PAPERS AND IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT FEMA IS GOING AWAY AND GOING AWAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE NAME OR THE GRANTS OR WHATEVER IT IS, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF CITIES ARE NOW LOOKING ON, THEY'RE TRYING TO SET UP FUNDS JUST IN LIEU OF FEMA NOT BEING THERE. 
          AND I JUST DON'T EVEN WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE ARE NOW IN JUNE, WE HAVE, WHAT, FIVE MORE MONTHS? AND IT'S MUCH MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE I REMEMBER A FEW YEARS AGO, SANDY CAME IN DECEMBER, HURRICANE HELENE CAME IN NORTH CAROLINA ENDING OF NOVEMBER LAST YEAR. 
          SO THINGS HAVE REALLY RARELY CHANGED. 
          AND I REMEMBER LAST YEAR WHEN I DID ASK WHAT WAS OUR RESERVE, I THINK I WAS TOLD IT WAS EITHER 125,000 OR I WOULD SAY MAYBE $175,000 THAT THE CITY HAD IN RESERVE. 
          SO I THINK IT IS, UH, THE CORRECT TIME FOR US TO TALK ABOUT THAT MONEY. 
          THE MONIES THAT STILL KEEP ON COMING IN A YEAR HAS PASSED MR. TONY SINCE WE STARTED GETTING THE MONTHLY MONEY ALONG WITH THE BIG CHECK THAT WE GOT. 
          AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR US TO REALLY HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION ON THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN PLACE JUST IN CASE. 
          I WOULD HOPE IN CASE THE CHRISTIE, WHAT'S HER NAME, CHRISTINE NOME, SECRETARY OF DEPARTMENT OF WHATEVER IT IS, INCLUDING FEMA, WOULD CHANGE HER MIND AND DECIDE THAT IF THERE 
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IS A KA , WHICH IS NOT ONLY HURRICANE FOR US, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN, THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD STEP IN. 
          BUT I KNOW LAST WEEK I HEARD YOUR PRESIDENT STATING THAT THE GOVERNORS IN THE STATE ISRAELI THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE. 
          AND HE WENT FURTHER TO SAY IF THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIVE, IT MEANS THAT THEY WERE, THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ELECTED AS GOVERNORS. 
          AND I'M THINKING OF THIS LITTLE CITY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO JUST IN CASE? SO MADAM MAYOR, ACTING CITY MANAGER, DIRECTOR, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, MR. RON PARKS, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE I WOULD THINK ALONG WITH THE FIRE AND RESCUE. 
          WHAT I WOULD REALLY LOVE FOR US TO MAYBE DECIDE TO HAVE A, GET A COMMITTEE. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW IT CAN WORK, SO THAT WE START MAKING PREPARATIONS. 
          MS. MS. TANYA, ARE YOU HERE TO DISCUSS OR SIX THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR PROTOCOL ESTABLISHED? YES. 
          I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE CURRENT STATUS REGARDING THE ORAL STATE'S LIENS. 
          UM, SPECIFICALLY WE HAVE COLLECTED TO DATE, 621,000 AND THAT INCLUDES THE 450,000 THAT WE RECEIVED AS A LUMP SUM PAYMENT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          SIX 21,000. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MADAM MAYOR, VICE MISS, I THINK THIS QUESTION WOULD BE FOR MS. BOBBY. 
          IT'S PART OF THE GENERAL FUND RIGHT NOW. 
          MS. BOBBY, I LOVE THIS ATTENTION. 
          UH, GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN. 
          BOBBY WILLIAMS DIRECTOR FINANCIAL SERVICES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UH, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND THE, UH, THE QUESTION. 
          IT WAS THE, THE FUNDING THAT MS. TANJA, I'M SORRY, DIRECTOR TANJA JUST MENTIONED. 
          IS IT IN THE GENERAL FUND? YEAH, IT, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. 
          WHERE IS THAT MONEY RIGHT NOW? UH, HER, UH, HER, UM, COVID ENFORCEMENT FUNDING IS IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR UNANIM. 
          SO THE SIX 21,000 THAT WE HAVE COLLECTED IS IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, MS. BOBBY, AND MR. COMMISSIONER HARRIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, BOBBY, I, IT WAS MENTIONED LAST TIME AND I WANNA REITERATE IT. 
          IS THERE A WAY WHERE WE CAN HAVE A SEPARATE BUCKET OF WHERE WE GET MONEY FROM LIENS AND FROM THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WHERE IT'S NOT IN THE GENERAL FUND, BUT WE SEE WHERE THAT BUCKET BY ITSELF IS. 
          SO WE CAN JUST LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND SEE HOW MUCH WE HAVE JUST FROM THAT. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, WE, WE, WE DO HAVE, UH, AN ENTIRE GENERAL LEDGER WITH SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS AND CODES FOR EACH SPECIFIC TYPE OF REVENUE SOURCE, WHAT WE PRESENT TO YOU DURING THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT UPDATES. 
          IT'S JUST A SUMMARY. 
          WE CAN CERTAINLY START TO ITEMIZE THAT REVENUE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT SEPARATED OUT. 
          MADAM MAYOR, MS. HARRISON? YEAH. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN THE LEDGER. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S PERFECT. 
          BUT, UM, I THINK FOR OUR PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION, IT'LL HELP JUST IN AS AN ASTERISK HOW MUCH OF THAT, UM, REVOLVES OR HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GETTING FROM OUR LIENS AND PUNITIVE TYPE OF, UM, REVENUE. 
          DO MADAM MAYOR? YES, OF COURSE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER COLLEAGUES? MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER THOMAS HAS A QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          PERHAPS YOU'RE ON MUTE. 
          . 
          I AM SORRY. 
          MADAM MAYOR. 
          YES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UM, YEAH, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I KNOW, I THINK I HEARD MS. BOBBY SAY CONCERNING, UH, THE FUNDS THAT DO COME IN FROM CODE COMPLIANCE, THEY ARE ON THE FINES AND FORTITUDE, RIGHT? IF ALL THE FUNDS COME IN FROM THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES, DIFFERENT 
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BUSINESSES ARE ALL THOSE PLACED UNDER FINES AND FORTITUDE. 
          'CAUSE THIS WAY WE CAN KNOW HOW TO REDIRECT, NOT NECESSARILY HAVE IT IN THE GENERAL FUND, BUT KNOWING HOW TO USE THAT AS WELL. 
          MAYBE FOR SOMETHING SPECIFIC, AS I HEARD, UM, VICE MAYOR SPEAK EARLIER, CONCERNING, UM, OUR RESERVE, WHAT WE HAVEN'T RESERVE, HOW CAN WE INCREASE THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPE FROM, UM, FROM WASHINGTON. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A QUESTION TO ANSWER ALL, ALL OUR DIFFERENT FINES THAT ARE COMING IN. 
          IS THAT UNDER THE GENERAL LABEL FINES AND FORTITUDE, AS YOU KNOW, UM, AND TO COMMISSIONER HARRISON'S ALSO POINTED OUT IF WE COULD, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT POINT THAT OUT THAT LINE ITEM TO SAY THESE ARE WHAT HAS COME IN THROUGH THE FINES AND FOR THROUGH AND FOR WHERE, AND I SAW YOU DOING IT, BUT TO HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. 
          MS. BOBBY THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, JUST A, JUST A FEW THINGS TALKING ABOUT THE FINES AND FORFEITURES. 
          UM, AT THE NEXT, UH, FINANCIAL REPORT UPDATE, I CAN SPEND SOME TIME ON GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRE LIST OF ALL OF OUR REVENUE SOURCES BY CATEGORY AND THEY WILL BE ITEMIZED EXACTLY HOW ALL THE GENERAL LEDGER HAS THEM. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT COMES IN FOR, UH, CODE LIKE LIENS. 
          WHAT COMES IN FOR ADMINISTRATION AS A PART OF THAT ADMINIST, UM, CODE COMPLIANCE. 
          THERE'S A COMPONENT THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVE, WHICH IS SEPARATED, UM, IN OUR SYSTEM. 
          YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET A CHANCE TO SEE, UM, ALL OF THAT. 
          I THINK I, THE LAST TIME I PROVIDED THIS WAS AT YOUR BUSINESS RETREAT? UH, NO, IT WAS AT THE APRIL 2ND, YEAH. 
          BUSINESS RETREAT MEETING. 
          I PROVIDED A LIST OF ALL OF THE REVENUE FOR THE GENERAL FUND WITH THE, UH, BUDGETS AND WITH THE ACTUALS AS OF THAT DATE. 
          AND I CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AGAIN AND WE COULD SPEND MORE TIME AT THE WORKSHOP GOING OVER THAT SPECIFIC CATEGORY IF YOU'D LIKE. 
          THE MORE INFORMATION WE RECEIVE MS. BOBBY, THE MORE WE'RE INFORMED AND HELPS US TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND ALSO TOO, I JUST WANTED TO JUST CLARIFY, UH, THE, UH, CONCERN ABOUT THE RESERVE. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN AUDIT. 
          UM, SO IT DOES TAKE SOME TIME TO, UH, AUDIT THE CASH, UH, WITH THE CITY. 
          BUT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OVER $20 MILLION RIGHT NOW THAT'S IN RESERVE. 
          NOW, SOME OF THAT IS RESTRICTED FOR CAPITAL. 
          SOME OF IT'S RESTRICTED FOR BUDGET STABILIZATION. 
          UM, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE $125,000 SET ASIDE FOR EMERGENCIES. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE ROUGHLY AROUND $20 MILLION. 
          UH, WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN THIS YEAR IS A FINANCIAL, UH, YEAR END REPORT IS A BETTER, UM, CATEGORIZATION OF THAT $20 MILLION. 
          IF IT'S $20 MILLION. 
          AGAIN, THAT WAS, UH, YEAR END 2023. 
          AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CLOSING OUT 2024. 
          AND SO WE'LL HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT CASH IS AVAILABLE FOR OUR REAL EMERGENCIES. 
          AND, AND TYPICALLY WE HAVE TO, IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, UH, ON A, ON A, ON ANOTHER TANGENT, IF WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY, WE ALWAYS PAY UP FRONT ANYHOW. 
          AND THEN THERE'S ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF, UM, UH, OF THE EXPENDITURES THAT YOU SPEND THAT'S 100% REFUNDABLE. 
          EVERYTHING ELSE IS DISCOUNTED. 
          UM, SO WE NEVER TRULY GET, UM, EVERYTHING BACK ANYHOW. 
          BUT YEAH, THE CITY DOES HAVE A FINANCIAL PLAN IN PLACE FOR EMERGENCIES. 
          OF COURSE, IF WE HAVE A, A DEVASTATING, UM, DEVASTATING, UH, EVENT LIKE HURRICANE KATRINA, UM, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING OUT OF OUR HANDS THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED SOME ASSISTANCE. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE A PLAN FOR EMERGENCIES RIGHT NOW. 
          THE YOU MADA MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAD VICE MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT WAS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MADA MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU MS. BOBBY. 
          THANK YOU MS. TANJA. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MANAGER. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          ITEM NUMBER 5G DISCUSSION 
          [G.  DISCUSSION REGARDING TWO LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAMS AND AN AMNESTY PROGRAM TO ASSIST WITH RESOLVING THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS]
REGARDING TWO LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAMS AND AN AMNESTY PROGRAM TO ASSIST WITH RESOLVING THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS. 
          AND MS. TANJA WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM. 
          MS. TANJA, GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. 
          MADAME VICE MAYOR, CITY ATTORNEY CITY CLERK COMMISSION. 
          AGAIN, I AM HERE TO DISCUSS IN ADDITIONAL DETAIL THE, UH, LIEN AMNESTY PROGRAM. 
          UM, BASED ON OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, I, UH, THE COMMISSION DID GIVE STAFF SOME VERY GOOD DIRECTION IN TERMS OF PREPARING THIS POLICY. 
          AND SO, UM, I DID HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME CLARITY ON RELATED TO THE LEAN AMNESTY PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY. 
          AND, UH, THE TWO QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THE, UM, IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANY TYPE OF RESTRICTIONS REGARDING THE LIAM AMNESTY PROGRAM. 
          AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY A TIMEFRAME FOR THE TIME PERIOD FOR WHICH, UM, PROPERTIES MAY BE IN COMP NEED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE. 
          AND THEN, UM, I DID LOOK AT SOME 
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OTHER CODE OR POLICIES FROM OTHER CITIES, AND I DID IDENTIFY THAT THERE WAS A COUPLE OF RESTRICTIONS, INCLUDING OUR OWN CODE THAT WE HAVE, WHICH I, UH, PROVIDED AS BACKUP. 
          BUT SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS WAS THAT LIENS OR REPEAT LIEN PROPERTIES WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE AMNESTY PROGRAM. 
          UM, THAT WAS IN THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD. 
          AND THEN IN THE SUNRISE, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE WOULD BE A LIMITATION ON THE AMOUNT OF A LIEN THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THE ELIGIBILITY, UH, WOULD NOT GO OVER A $250,000 LIEN. 
          SO AT THIS TIME, I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION TO PLEASE GIVE ME SOME GUIDANCE. 
          UM, I TALKED ABOUT ALSO THE TIMEFRAME MAY BE A PERIOD OF TIME IN WHICH THE LIEN, UH, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE HAVE HAD LIENS IN THE PAST WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR AN AMNESTY PROGRAM. 
          TODAY, I'M RECOMMENDING SIX MONTHS, SIX TO NINE MONTHS FOR A HOME STAY PROPERTY AND 12 TO 18 MONTHS FOR A NON-HOMESTEAD. 
          AND THAT'S BASED ON THE, UM, PREVIOUS DISCUSSION THAT I'VE HAD WITH THE COMMISSION ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. 
          MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, TANJA, THANK YOU FOR THE TIMELINE WITH THE SIX TO NINE MONTHS RESIDENTIAL, 12 TO 18 NON-RESIDENTIAL. 
          UM, UH, REPEAT LIENS WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE. 
          COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT? IS THAT TALKING ABOUT IF THEY REPEATED THE SAME VIOLATION MORE THAN ONCE? OR JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT WOULD CONSTITUTE FOR THAT? MS. TANGER, THROUGH YOUR MADAM MAYOR, UM, THESE POLICIES ARE NOT, UM, AS CLEAR TO SAY WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE THE SAME VIOLATION OR DIFFERENT VIOLATIONS. 
          AND THAT IS AGAIN, WHY I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION, UM, TO GIVE ME SOME CLARITY AND SOME DIRECTION ON THAT. 
          WELL, UH, MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU. 
          I BELIEVE THAT FOR AN AMNESTY PROGRAM, THE IDEA THE, THE, THE CONNOTATION OF AMNESTY IS FORGIVENESS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, YOU SIN ONE TIME, SIN TWO TIMES, YOU KNOW, I FORGIVE YOU NOT JUST FOR ONE, FOR ALL YOUR SINS, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT THAT'S NOT EVEN WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FORGIVE THEM FOR EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE WRONG. 
          I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY OVERALL TO GET IN COMPLIANCE. 
          SO WHAT I SAID LAST TIME WAS I, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO VEER AWAY FROM THINGS THAT DO TWO THINGS THAT DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM BUYING INTO THE PROGRAM. 
          AND SECONDLY, ANY STIPULATIONS THAT'S GONNA CUT OUT A GROUP OF PEOPLE. 
          SO THE SECOND THING I HAVE AN ISSUE IS ANYBODY OVER, I THINK YOU SAID 200,000, WE HAVE FOLKS A SIZEABLE AMOUNT WITH PEOPLE OVER THAT, THAT SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY INTO THIS PROGRAM. 
          THAT'S A DETERRENT. 
          I AM AGAINST THE DETERRENT FOR AMNESTY PROGRAM. 
          I THINK THE AMNESTY PROGRAM SPEAKS FOR ITSELF WHEN IT'S DONE. 
          THEY HAVE NO MORE CHANCE FOR AN AMNESTY. 
          BUT I, I, I WANT TO PUSH BACK AGAINST RECOMMENDATIONS THAT SEEM LIKE WE'RE SETTING THE STAGE UP TO WHERE WE KNOW WHO WON'T QUALIFY. 
          SOME OF THE BIGGEST PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIENS IN OUR CITY ALREADY WON'T QUALIFY BASED OFF OF THE PROPOSAL I'M HEARING. 
          SO, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT REPEAT LIENS MEAN. 
          UM, BUT AS FAR AS THE OVER 200,000, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE FAIR. 
          MS. TANYA, WHEN YOU SAY REPEAT, ARE YOU REFERRING TO, AFTER A HOMEOWNER HAS APPLIED FOR AMNESTY, HAS BEEN GRANTED AMNESTY AND THEN RE-OFFEND, IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY REPEAT? OR DO YOU MEAN THAT THAT PARTICULAR HOMEOWNER JUST HAS 10 20 LIENS? WHICH, WHICH, WHICH ARE YOU REFERRING TO? UM, I CAN SPECIFICALLY SPEAK TO, UM, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UH, A PROPERTY THAT WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT, KENRICK, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE THEY HAD LIENS, UM, YEAR AFTER YEAR, THEY WERE ACCO, UM, VIOLATING THE CODE THROUGH A PERIOD OF TIME FROM MY RE RESEARCH ON THAT PROPERTY FROM 2017 ALL THE WAY TO 2021, WHERE THEY WERE CONSISTENTLY, UM, VIOLATING THE CODE IN SOME WAY. 
          SO, IN MY MIND, A REPEAT LIEN HOLDER WOULD BE SOMEONE WHO IS DOING THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY IN OUR CITY. 
          BUT WOULDN'T AN AMNESTY PROGRAM BE JUST FOR THAT? THAT IF YOU HAVE LIENS THAT YOU CAN APPLY FOR AMNESTY AT 35% OR WHATEVER THE PERCENTAGE IS THAT WE DECIDE UPON WHETHER I'M A REPEAT OFFENDER OR NOT? THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          YES. 
          THIS, THIS IS WHY I'M ASKING FOR CLARITY IF, BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO PUT THIS POLICY TOGETHER AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT I PRESENT IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ASKING ME FOR. 
          SO 
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I'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR CLARITY. 
          IF YOU ARE, IF THE COMMISSION IS COMFORTABLE THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO, THEN THAT'S THE POLICY THAT I'M GONNA PREPARE. 
          MADAM MAYOR? SORRY, COMMISSIONER MC. 
          OH, GO AHEAD. 
          ARE YOU SURE? YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          UM, I, I, I WANT TO ECHO YOUR SENTIMENT. 
          I, I, IF, IF PEOPLE HAVE, UH, IF WE'RE EXPLAINING, REPEATING, LIENS, VIOLATION AS THEY VIOLATED CODE IN SOME TYPE OF WAY REPEATEDLY, AGAIN, 90% OF PEOPLE WON'T QUALIFY FOR THIS, UH, PROGRAM. 
          I'M JUST PUTTING A NUMBER OUT THERE, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WON'T QUALIFY. 
          UM, PARTICULARLY OUR MOST CHRONIC CASES CONTRIBUTE TO THE MOST, UH, EYESORE TO THE COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. 
          WE GOTTA GET THESE FOLKS IN COMPLIANCE. 
          I WANT THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES TO LOOK DIFFERENT FROM TODAY IN THE NEXT NINE MONTHS. 
          I DON'T WANT NINE, 12 MONTHS TO COME BY. 
          I, I DON'T WANNA SEE A CITY THAT, YEAH, WE'RE WINNING COURT CASES, YOU KNOW, FIGHTING PEOPLE. 
          WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF FIGHTS, BUT NOTHING IS REALLY CHANGING. 
          AGAIN, I'M, I'M ALL ABOUT TOUGH ON CODE. 
          UH, I, I, I CAMPAIGNED ON IT. 
          I BELIEVE IN IT. 
          BUT ONCE COMING IN AND SEEING HOW FAR WE'VE BEEN BEHIND AS A CITY, WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE, UH, I BELIEVE THE, WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS WHAT'S THE STRATEGIC OPTION. 
          SO TO, TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, WE DON'T WANT TO DEFEAT THE, THE PURPOSE OF WHAT AN AMNESTY IS SUPPOSED TO BE. 
          UM, SO MY SUGGESTION IS, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THE REPEAT LIENS OUT SINCE, SINCE WE PROBABLY DON'T REALLY KNOW, UH, WHAT IT MEANS. 
          AND THAT'D BE VERY VAGUE. 
          AND, UM, IF YOU CAN GET AN AVERAGE, AND AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY LIENS WE HAVE OUT THERE, SO I CAN'T EVEN SAY THIS, BUT IT, IF WE CAN'T SAY ANYBODY OVER 200,000 CAN'T QUALIFY, I THINK WE, IF WE'RE GONNA PUT A QUALIFYING FOR THE NUMBER, WE SHOULD PROBABLY SURVEY TO SEE HOW MUCH WE HAVE OUT THERE AND, AND, AND FIND A FAIR AVERAGE, AT LEAST WITH OUR CHRONIC CASES. 
          UH, LOOK AT WHAT A GOOD AVERAGE WOULD BE. 
          BUT I, I'M JUST, I'M STILL LOOKING FOR A PROGRAM THAT'S GONNA BE AMNESTY WORTHWHILE, AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT THERE JUST YET. 
          BUT APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD, MS. CHEN. 
          MISSED TIME. 
          UM, I'M SORRY ABOUT, I WANTED TO CLARIFY. 
          THE $250,000 MARK WOULD BE A MARK AT WHICH THAT LIEN REDUCTION WOULD HAVE TO COME FORWARD TO COMMISSION IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE LIEN. 
          OH, MADAM MAYOR. 
          YEAH. 
          IF I JUST, HOLD ON. 
          SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD, MADAM MAYOR. 
          SORRY. 
          NO, LET YOU GO. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, I'M GO. 
          YEAH, LET ME FINISH. 
          LET ME, I'LL HARRISON COMMISSION. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU, YOU'RE SAYING, UM, IF THEY OWE MORE THAN 250,000, HOW WE DEAL WITH THAT COMES TO THE COMMISSION. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M STILL AGAINST THAT AS WELL, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          I AM FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAID. 
          SO I AM ALL FOR THE 200,000. 
          THE, UH, THE REPEAT LIENS, UM, THE 12 TO 18 MONTHS, THE SIX TO NINE MONTHS, WE ARE NOT, WE, THESE ARE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE, I'M THINKING. 
          AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND WE WANT THEM, THEY ARE DISRESPECTFUL TO NOT ABIDE IN BY OUR RULES IN OUR CITY. 
          AND THEY MUST BE PUNISHED. 
          AND IF THIS IS THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE THAT WAY. 
          AND WHY SHOULD WE GIVE THEM A SLAP ON THE WRIST FOR DOING THE WRONG THING WHEN THEY KNOW THEY NEEDED TO DO THE RIGHT THING? AND THE CONSTANT WARNING AND WARNING AND WARNING TO HAD IT TO REACH TO THAT POINT. 
          IT'S LIKE, IT'S A DI BLATANT DISRESPECT BECAUSE I WARN YOU, THE FIRST TIME YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING, KEEP WARNING, WARNING YOU HAVE NOT, ESPECIALLY THE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE MAKING MONEY, WHO CAN FAKE DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, THEY'RE NOT DOING IT. 
          AND SO NOW WE SHOULD JUST LIKE, SLAP THEM ON THE WRIST, GIVE THEM A HUG AND LIKE, ALRIGHT, I GOT YOU. 
          NO, WE ARE GOING TO KNOW AS A CITY THAT WE DON'T PLAY. 
          YOU COME HERE, YOU DON'T FOLLOW OUR RULES. 
          THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE CONSEQUENCES. 
          AND I AM TOTALLY IN AGREEANCE WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND HOW YOU'RE SETTING IT AND MOVING FORWARD. 
          NO SLACK WITH NO ONE PERIOD. 
          AND THAT'S MY THING ON THAT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO, MY ONE VOTE THAT I HAVE IS GOING FOR THIS MAD MAYOR, MISS ANDREW. 
          AND AMNESTY, WHAT THE WORD AMNESTY, WHAT DOES IT MEAN IF THERE IS AN AMNESTY? IT MEANS THAT FORGIVENESS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          CORRECT. 
          SO IT'S, 
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THERE ARE, IF IT'S HARD WHEN I WALK IN THE MORNINGS AND REALLY SEE THAT PEOPLE REALLY DON'T, I'M LOOKING ON A RENTAL PROPERTY AND APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          I PASS IT FIVE DAYS A WEEK, AND IT HAS NOT IMPROVED SINCE 2023 WHEN THIS SPECIAL MASTER DECIDED IT'S $200 A DAY AFTER, I THINK IT WAS 10 DAYS, HAS NOT IMPROVED. 
          BUT THEN IF WE SAY IT'S AN AMNESTY, MAYBE WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WORD FROM AMNESTY. 
          'CAUSE AMNESTY MEANS FORGIVENESS. 
          SO I, IT IS REALLY, REALLY HARD TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE RARELY DISRESPECT US SO BADLY THAT THEY ARE MAKING MONEY, ESPECIALLY RENTAL PROPERTIES. 
          I CAN UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS. 
          'CAUSE MANY TIMES BUSINESSES, THEY ARE UNDERPERFORMING. 
          BUT A RENTAL PROPERTY THAT TAKES MONEY EVERY MONTH AND TAKE THEM TO COURT, EVICT THEM, THROW THEIR STUFF OUT 'CAUSE THEY HAVEN'T PAID. 
          BUT JUST TO DO THE BASIC, GETTING SOMEONE TO CLEAN THE PROPERTY THAT IT IS PRESENTABLE. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M, I CAN VOTE FOR A, A BUSINESS LIKE THAT. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE HARD ON ME. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD USE THE WORD AMNESTY. 
          'CAUSE AMNESTY REALLY MEANS FORGIVENESS. 
          MS. TJA, IN THE DEFINITION OF AMNESTY, DOES THAT MEAN A COMPLETE CLEAN SLATE THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR? IN MY OPINION, YES. 
          AND I, WE CAN, UM, ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY IF THAT'S WHAT HE AGREES WITH AS FAR AS WHAT AMNESTY WOULD MEAN. 
          AND YES. 
          UM, THAT'S WHY I AM, AGAIN, A LITTLE CONCERNED WHEN SOME OF THESE PROJECT PROPERTIES HAS LIENS THAT ARE AS HIGH AS SOME OF THESE LIENS. 
          BECAUSE WHEN WE GIVE A, IF ADMINISTRATIVELY WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A COMPLETE FORGIVENESS, UM, I JUST THINK IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION MAY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT PRIOR TO MY OFFICE RELIEVING THEM OR FINANCIAL SERVICES RELIEVING THEM OF SUCH A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          MR. SENATORS, UM, MAD MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          I THINK THE POINT IS WELL TAKEN. 
          I FORGET IT THE MOMENT WHO ACTUALLY MADE IT. 
          BUT THE QUESTION, UH, I BELIEVE IT CAME FROM THE MAYOR, IS WHAT IS AN AMNESTY? UM, THE EXTENT TO WHICH, UM, THE COMMISSION DECIDES WHAT THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA ARE FOR THOSE OWNERS WHO THE COMMISSION WANTS TO ENGAGE IN THE PROGRAM DETERMINES YOUR PERCEPTION AND YOUR COMMITMENT AS TO WHAT THAT WORD MEANS. 
          SO, UH, MAYBE TO THE VICE MAYOR'S QUESTION, MAYBE YOU WANT TO CONSIDER WHAT YOU CALLED THE PROGRAM. 
          YES. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHETHER YOU CALL IT AN AMNESTY PROGRAM OR ANYTHING ELSE, THE NATURE OF THAT PROGRAM WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT YOU AGREE TO PLACE ON THE OWNERS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN IT. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AMNESTY MEANS FORGIVENESS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, AMNESTY MEANS, UM, IT MEANS FORGIVENESS. 
          UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE SAYING BY CLEAN SLATE. 
          THE, THE, THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT THAT FORGIVENESS LOOKS LIKE IS UP TO US, BUT AMNESTY MEANS FORGIVENESS. 
          TO WHAT DEGREE ARE WE FORGIVING PEOPLE? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO MEAN CLEAN SLATE, UM, WITH WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. 
          I DON'T SEE IT AS A CLEAN SLATE. 
          I DON'T THINK ANYBODY UP HERE PROPOSING A CLEAN SLATE, UM, THAT THEY COMPLETELY GET AWAY. 
          I THINK THESE OWNERS HAVE TO PAY UP SOMETHING. 
          UM, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH WHAT THEY'VE DONE. 
          I THINK A PART OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS A MIXTURE OF THEM NOT CARING AND A PART OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND IS, IN THE PAST, WITHIN THE CITY, THERE'S BEEN WEAK LEADERSHIP AND FOLLOWING UP AND MAKING SURE THAT WE GO AFTER THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING FOR CODE VIOLATIONS. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST THEM. 
          IF PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH SOMETHING NINE TIMES OUTTA 10, THEY'RE GONNA EXPLOIT THAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO WHY THIS CITY DOESN'T KNOW HOW MANY LIENS 
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ARE OUT THERE? I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS CITY DOESN'T, UH, DIDN'T FOLLOW UP WITH THESE LIENS PROPERLY. 
          IN THE PAST, YOU WEREN'T HERE, TANJA. 
          I WEREN'T HERE. 
          WE DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, UH, SO WHETHER WE CHANGE THE NAME ISN'T WHAT'S RELEVANT. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO SEE, ASK OURSELVES HOW ARE WE GONNA APPROACH THE ISSUE WITH PEOPLE NOT BEING COMPLIANT? AND IF THE ISSUE IS PEOPLE ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE, THAT MEANS THAT THE SOLUTION HAS TO BE HOW DO WE GET THEM IN COMPLIANCE? AND I WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO ALSO MAKE MENTION OF ONE THING WHERE PEOPLE CAN CONSIDER, THERE ARE CITIES THAT ARE LOOKING AT THESE, UH, GOING AFTER CODE VIOLATIONS AS A MEANS OF A REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE CITY. 
          AND ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THAT, I THINK THE MAIN GOAL SHOULD NOT BE FOR THE CITY TO MAKE MONEY THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS. THE MAIN GOAL SHOULD BE TO GET THESE PEOPLE INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          THIS SHOULD NOT BE A REVENUE STREAM FOR THE CITY. 
          IF THE CITY NEEDS TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO MAKE MONEY, IT SHOULD NOT BE THROUGH, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          CODE ENFORCEMENT IS TO PUT PEOPLE IN COMPLIANCE. 
          MADAM MAYOR, MS. TANJA. 
          OH, I'M SO SORRY MR. MAXWELL. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, UM, THIS PROGRAM IS TO MAKE MONEY THE CITY TO MAKE MONEY. 
          SO, VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR MISSION. 
          YOU SEE THAT OUR CITY HAS A LOT OF CODE VIOLATIONS WITHIN OUR CITY. 
          I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE PLAZA THAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH THAT GENTLEMAN FOR, FOR MONTH IGNORED, HE HAD THE MONEY AND HE TOTALLY IGNORED US AND REFUSED. 
          AND HAD, WE HAD TO TAKE IT TO THAT LEVEL. 
          SO WE ARE NOT TRYING TO MAKE MONEY. 
          WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SEND A MESSAGE THAT YOU NEED WHEN YOU, YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR PROPERTY. 
          AND WHEN WE GIVE YOU A CODE VIOLATION, TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          DON'T JUST SIT THERE AND SIT IN ON IT AND WAITING ON IT. 
          AND SO WE ARE NOT TRYING TO MAKE MONEY FOR THE CITY, RIGHT? AMEN. 
          WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DO THAT. 
          AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WRONG. 
          AND DON'T PUT IT OUT THERE. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. 
          MR. HARRISON, I ALSO DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT I SAID. 
          THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHAT I SAID WAS, IT IS BEING SAID BY OTHER CITIES THAT THAT'S A STRATEGY WE DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT OTHER CITIES SAY ABOUT OUR CITY COMMISSIONER MAX WILLIAMS, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          WE DON'T CARE WHAT OTHER CITIES SAY ABOUT OUR CITY. 
          MS. TANJA TO YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          UM, AND BEING MOST CORDIAL AND RESPECTFUL, UH, WE DO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES, HOW THEY APPROACH PROBLEMS AND HOW WE MOVE ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. 
          THAT'S A, THAT'S AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION TO HAVE. 
          UM, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I DID NOT, I DON'T WANT MY WORDS TO BE MISCHARACTERIZED. 
          AND I THINK FOR YOUR BETTERMENT AS STAFF TO UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM, UH, THE POINT OF THE AMNESTY PROGRAM. 
          THE POINT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT IS TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP PEOPLE IN COMPLIANCE. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING A TREND BEING FOLLOWED BY OTHER CITIES, WHICH IS, LISTEN, YOU GUYS, WE'RE STRAPPED ON MONEY. 
          HEY, HERE'S A CREATIVE WAY. 
          LOOK AT THESE LIENS, LET'S GO. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT THE TREND THAT THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES FOLLOWS. 
          UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS OUT THERE, A LOT OF BUSINESSES OUT THERE, AND WE WANTED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE. 
          UH, THERE WAS MENTION OF A PROPERTY, IT WAS DETERMINED, UH, BY MAGISTRATE IN OH THREE. 
          AND YOU WALK PAST THE PROPERTY TODAY, IT'S STILL A EYESORE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO STRATEGICALLY SPEAKING, WE CAN GET PEOPLE, WE CAN INCENTIVIZE THEM TO GO ABOUT IT THEMSELVES AND SAVE, ACTUALLY SAVE THE CITY A LOT OF MONEY FROM TAKING 'EM TO COURT. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT MY FEEDBACK IS BEING KNOWN TO SAY THAT GETTING THE COMMUNITY IN COMPLIANCE TO INVEST IN THIS COMMUNITY IS THE MAIN GOAL. 
          COMMISSIONER , AGAIN, I JUST STATED WHAT I STATED. 
          UM, WE ARE NOT HERE TO TRY TO MAKE MONEY FOR THE CITY. 
          WE ARE TRYING TO GET EVERYONE IN COMPLIANCE AND PUNISH THEM FOR NOT BEING IN COMPLIANCE. 
          AND IF THAT, I THINK MAYBE IF WE CHANGE THE NAME IN ATTORNEY, CAN WE CHANGE THE NAME OF THE WORDING OF IT? MAYBE THAT WILL HELP. 
          UM, UM, MAYBE WE SHOULD CHANGE THE WORD. 
          I I THINK IN ATTORNEY CALLOWAY'S PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, HE INDICATED THAT IT WOULD BE UP TO THE COMMISSION TO DETERMINE THE PARAMETERS, RIGHT. 
          OF WHAT AN AMNESTY PROGRAM ENTAILS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THE NAME AMNESTY IS A NAME. 
          WHAT WE WOULD REQUIRE AS ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS OR WHAT WE WOULD DO UNDER THE AMNESTY PROGRAM WOULD NOT HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE NAME OF THE PROGRAM. 
          AMEN. 
          OR WOULD NOT HAVE AN EFFECT. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          MADAM VICE. 
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MADAME COMMISSIONER. 
          YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT TO ME. 
          NO, THROUGH YOU. 
          I SAID MADAM MAYOR FIRST. 
          AND I'M SPEAKING TO MADAME COMMISSIONER CARLY MAXWELL WILLIAMS, MADAM VICE MAYOR, STATING THAT PUNISHMENT. 
          I WOULD NEVER USE THAT STRONG WORD PUNISHMENT. 
          'CAUSE WE ARE NOT HERE TO PUNISH ANYONE. 
          SO I WOULD PREFER YOU TO WITHDRAW THAT LANGUAGE, MADAME COMMISSIONER. 
          'CAUSE WE ARE NOT HERE TO PUNISH ANYONE. 
          WHAT WE REALLY WANT IS COMPLIANCE AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF ALL OF US. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAD MAYOR. 
          ATTORNEY CALLAWAY? UH, YES. 
          MAD MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, THE WORD COMPLIANCE KEEPS COMING UP. 
          AND SO I DO THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT COMPLIANCE IS A TERM OF ART. 
          IT IS ENUMERATED IN YOUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, SPECIFICALLY CHAPTER 30, RELATING TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND COMPLIANCE MEANS THE CORRECTION OF A VIOLATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE CODES, INCLUDING PAYMENT OF ANY OUTSTANDING CIVIL PENALTIES, LIENS, OR OTHER SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS, LIENS AND OR COST OF FEES DUE TO THE CITY FOR ENFORCEMENT OF THE SUBJECT ORDINANCES VIOLATED. 
          THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF COMPLIANCE RELATIVE TO YOUR, UM, SECTION, UH, UH, CHAPTER 30 OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO MY, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT IS WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE, WE APPROACH HOW WE THINK THEY'RE GETTING IN COMPLIANCE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY CAN JUST PAY WHAT THEY'RE OWED AND TECHNICALLY THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE UNTIL WE GO BACK OUT THERE TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, CODE VIOLATION. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          UH, DO YOU, MADAM MAYOR, THE CITY ATTORNEY, COULD CLARIFY IF THEY JUST PAY, DOES THAT SATISFY THAT THEY'VE MET COMPLIANCE? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE, AGAIN, THE FIRST PART OF THAT, UH, DEFINITION MEANS THE CORRECTION OF A VIOLATION. 
          OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE CO CODES, INCLUDING PAYMENT OF ANY OUTSTANDING CIVIL PENALTIES OR LIENS OR OTHER SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS OR COSTS OF FEES DUE TO THE CITY FOR ENFORCEMENT OF THE SUBJECT ORDINANCES VIOLATED. 
          SO IT ACTUALLY MEANS BOTH, BOTH TO THE, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTION. 
          MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CITY ATTORNEY. 
          I STAND CORRECTED. 
          UM, I I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, WE'RE NOT HERE TO PUNISH PEOPLE. 
          UH, WE'RE NOT JUDGES. 
          UH, THE MAIN GOAL SHOULD BE COMPLIANCE. 
          AND YES, I AGREE WITH THAT DEFINITION, WHICH IS BOTH, UH, CORRECTING WHAT WAS WRONG AND, AND ALSO PAYING WHAT WAS, UM, WHAT WAS OWED OR WHATEVER AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM WE'RE TRYING TO CRAFT. 
          NOW. 
          UH, I I AGREE WITH THOSE TWO THINGS BEING DONE. 
          UH, I DON'T AGREE WITH, UH, AN APPROACH THAT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO PUNISH PEOPLE. 
          UH, I AGREE WITH AN APPROACH THAT'S LOOKING FOR THE FASTEST WAY TO GET PEOPLE INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          MS. TANJA HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR? YES. 
          UM, AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED OR THAT YOU, UH, THE COMMISSION FEELS IS IMPORTANT TO, UH, CRAFT WITHIN THIS POLICY, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AT THIS TIME BECAUSE I THINK NEXT TIME I BRING THIS FORWARD, I WILL HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE. 
          AND I HAVE HEARD THE ENTIRE COMMISSION AND I WANNA INCORPORATE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION INTO THE POLICY. 
          MS. MSRA, THE ITEM STATES DISCUSSION REGARDING TWO LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAMS AND AN AMNESTY PROGRAM. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO DISCUSS THE TWO LIEN PROGRAMS ALSO? YES. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          SO THE SECOND OP, UH, CONVERSATION I WANTED TO HAVE TONIGHT IS REGARDS TO A ONGOING LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAM. 
          SO THAT THROUGH THE AMNESTY PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD RUN FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS, BASED ON THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD, UM, THERE WOULD STILL BE, UM, RESIDENTS AS WELL AS BUSINESSES THAT DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          WHETHER THEY RECEIVED A NEW LIEN DURING THE AMNESTY PROGRAM OR AFTER THE AMNESTY PROGRAM, THAT THERE SHOULD BE AN ONGOING POLICY IN PLACE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND FINANCIAL SERVICES TO ADMINISTER TO PERSONS OR ENTITIES THAT HAVE LIENS IN PLACE. 
          UM, IN REVIEWING SOME OF THE PREVIOUS DIRECTORS, UM, 
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DISCUSSIONS, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT PUTTING A PROGRAM OF THIS NATURE IN PLACE SO THAT THERE'S A ONGOING PROCESS TO DEAL WITH LIENS AS THEY COME UP. 
          AND THAT IS THE SECOND LEG OF A COMPREHENSIVE LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAM THAT I AM PROPOSING THAT, UM, LIEN REDUCTION PROGRAM WOULD INCLUDE THE PROCESS AGAIN, OF HAVING A THREE-TIERED SYSTEM, WHICH $25,000 AND BELOW WOULD BE HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY AT $25,001. 
          THAT WOULD GO INTO THE MAGISTRATE'S COURT. 
          TWO HANDLE UP UNTIL $150,000. 
          AND AFTER $150,001, IT WOULD COME BEFORE COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF ANY REDUCTIONS. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE PROGRAM THAT'S ONGOING. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEONE WAS NOT ABLE TO MEET THIS AMNESTY REQUIREMENTS, THEY WOULD HAVE ANOTHER OPTION THAT THEY COULD GO FORWARD WITH. 
          ALSO, IN THE SECOND PROGRAM, I AM RECOMMENDING A, A PAYMENT PRO A A PAYMENT PLAN PROGRAM WHERE THE, UM, PERSON WHO HAS THE LIEN COULD PAY 50% UPFRONT AND THEN PAY THE BALANCE OF THE LIEN OVER A PERIOD OF 24 MONTHS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALSO, ANOTHER OPTION FOR A PAYMENT PROGRAM WOULD RE, UM, INCORPORATE LOW INCOME CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES, IN WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF PAYING ON THE LIEN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN HAVING THE LIEN COMPLETELY FORGIVEN. 
          OKAY. 
          MADAM MS. TANJA, COULD YOU REPEAT THE LAST, THE QUESTION YOUR ANSWER, THE PAYMENT PROGRAM FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOW INCOME? YES. 
          SO, UM, BASED ON WHAT MY OFFICE DOES NOW, WE, UM, LOOK AT PEOPLE FOR LOW INCOME PROGRAMS SUCH AS CDBG. 
          WE WOULD USE THAT SAME TYPE OF CRITERIA TO IDENTIFY, UM, HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE NOT CAPABLE OF MAKING THE FULL PAYMENT, BUT WOULD LIKE TO TRY AND RESOLVE THESE LIENS THROUGH MAKING PAYMENTS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. 
          RECOMMEND AGAIN, 24 MONTHS. 
          AT WHICH TIME AFTER THAT, IF THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THEIR FINANCIAL BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL REASONS, THE TI ENTIRE LOAN WOULD BE FORGIVEN LOAN. 
          OKAY. 
          THE ENTIRE LOAN UP TO HOW MUCH ARE YOU LOOKING ON? SO WHATEVER THE BALANCE WAS AFTER THE 24 MONTHS OF CONSISTENT PAYMENTS FOR THOSE LOW INCOME PROPERTIES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND AGAIN, IT WOULD BE BASED ON THEIR INCOME AND, UH, AND HOW MUCH THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY OVER THE 24 MONTHS. 
          SO IT COULD BE AS LOW AS A DOLLAR, BUT YOU KNOW, UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT. 
          AND BASED ON THEIR INCOME TO SAY THAT AT THE END OF THE 24 MONTHS, THAT LIEN WOULD BE COMPLETELY FORGIVEN. 
          AND THIS, AGAIN, IS AN ONGOING PROGRAM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN PLACE FOR THE CITY SO THAT ANYONE WHO GETS A FUTURE LIEN AND HAS SOME DIFFICULTY DEALING WITH IT, THEY WOULD HAVE OPTIONS. 
          MS. TANJA, AGAIN, HOW, WHAT TIMEFRAME ARE YOU LOOKING ON NOW TO GET ALL OF THESE THINGS SO THAT YOU CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION? NOT REALLY TALKING, BUT HAVE SOMETHING, HAVE YOU HAVE A FRAMEWORK THAT WE COULD LOOK ON? OH, MADAM MAYOR'S NOT HERE. 
          SO, UH, MADAM VICE MAYOR THROUGH YOU. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT THE END OF JULY I WOULD HAVE ALL OF THIS, UM, IN PLACE AND READY TO GO FOR THE COMMISSION TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MADAM VICE MAYOR, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER THOMAS WHO HAS A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I'M SORRY I'M IN A PLACE WITH A LOT OF NOISE. 
          I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR ME. 
          I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, EARLIER I WASN'T ACKNOWLEDGED, BUT I WANTED TO SAY WE COULD LOOK AT A TIER FOR THE AMOUNT OF THOSE, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AS WELL AS THE AMOUNT, UM, HOW TO GO ABOUT NOT ONLY THE TIER WITH THE AMOUNT OF YEARS, AS WELL AS THE AMOUNT THAT IS, UM, YOU'RE ABLE TO PUT IN THE AMNESTY PROGRAMS BECAUSE I HEARD THIS SANDRA ASKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS. 
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EVERYBODY. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS? MM-HMM . 
          DID YOU, OH, YOU FINISHED COMMISSIONER THOMAS ALL THANK YOU. 
          YES, SHE FINISHED. 
          YOU MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. HI, TANJA. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, THERE ARE TWO GREAT PROGRAMS AND I'M ALL FOR IT FOR THAT PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MS. TANJA, I'VE READ THE BACKUP. 
          I'M FOR THE PROGRAMS ALSO. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU, MS. THANK YOU MS. TANJA. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SANJA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ITEM NUMBER 
          [H.  DISCUSSION REGARDING AUTHORIZING A TASK ORDER TO CRAVEN THOMPSON AND ASSOCIATES, INC., TO PROVIDE PROFESSIONAL SURVEYING AND CIVIL ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES TO THE CITY FOR THE BOAT RAMP INSTALLATION PROJECT FOR AN AMOUNT NOT EXCEED ONE HUNDRED FIFTY SIX THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY AND NO/100 DOLLARS ($156,170)]
FIVE H, DISCUSSION REGARDING AUTHORIZING A TASK ORDER TO CRAVEN THOMPSON AND ASSOCIATES INC. 
          TO PROVIDE PROFESSIONAL SURVEY AND CIVIL ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES TO THE CITY FOR THE BOAT RAMP INSTALLATION PROJECT FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $156,170. 
          AND THIS ITEM IS BEING PRESENTED BY MR. RON DIS BRUS, MR. RON PROTOCOL ESTABLISHED, UH, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS DISCUSSION REGARDING AUTHORIZING A TASK ORDER TO CRA A THOMPSON AND ASSOCIATE TO PROVIDE SURVEYING AND, UH, ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE WAN PROJECT AND AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED, UH, $156,170. 
          UH, BUT I MEAN, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, 11 MILES OF CANAL THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT ARE, UH, SEPARATED INTO FIVE ZONES. 
          UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT MAINTAIN THE CANAL SYSTEM, AND TO DO SO, WE, WE HAVE A COMBINATION OF BOAT, UH, MANPOWER, AND WE HAVE TWO WE DO WHERE WE ACCESS THE CANAL, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE A SINGLE FUNCTIONAL BOOT RAMP TO SAFELY ACCESS, UH, THE CANAL SYSTEM. 
          UH, HOW DO WE DO IT? UM, HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO YOU, MAYOR, UH, TO SHOW YOU HOW WE CURRENTLY ACCESS THE CANAL SYSTEM. 
          UH, THIS IS A LOCATION MAP THAT SHOWS, UH, THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF WHERE WE PLAN ON PUTTING SOME NEW BOAT RAMPS. 
          UH, NEXT, UH, SLIDE PLEASE. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          THE PICTURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH,  IS ONE OF THE BOAT RAMP THAT WE HAVE ON NORTHWEST 39TH STREET. 
          IT'S A MAKESHIFT BOAT RAMP. 
          UH, IT'S MADE OF, UH, TIMBER, UH, IT'S BEEN OLD, ACTUALLY. 
          SOME STUFF FROM PUBLIC WORKS, UH, BUILT THAT A FEW YEARS BACK. 
          UH, IT'S SEAN TOTEN, UH, BUILT THAT, UM, BOAT RAMP. 
          UH, IT STARTS SAFE. 
          THERE'S NO GUARD WEAR. 
          EVEN THE, UH, THE BOAT THE WE DO STARTS SAFE. 
          BUT LUCKILY WE'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD AT GETTING THE BOAT IN AND OUT OF THE CANAL SYSTEM, EVEN FOR STAFF. 
          'CAUSE THAT THING, I FEEL LIKE IT CAN BREAK AT ANY TIME. 
          UH, BUT THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE FACING RIGHT NOW TO ACCESS, UH, OUR CANAL SYSTEM. 
          AND MAYOR, UH, NEXT PLEASE. 
          WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THAT, WE USE THE, THE SHORELINE. 
          UH, SOMETIMES IT CAN BE SOME RESIDENT BACKYARD. 
          UH, WE ACCESS THE CANAL WHEREVER WE CAN. 
          UH, BUT THE CHALLENGE WITH, UH, ACCESSING THE CANAL THROUGH THE SHORELINE, UH, NOW THAT WE ARE WITHIN THE RAINY SEASON, WE NEED RENT A LOT. 
          AND THE S SOIL IS SATURATED. 
          UH, IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET THE BOAT OUT, AND SOMETIMES WE END UP DAMAGING, UH, THE YARD, UH, THE GRASS. 
          SO WE HAVE TO RUN TO HOME DEPOT AND, UH, PICK UP SOME, SOME SOD TO REPLACE, UH, THE RESIDENT SOD BECAUSE, UH, WE DAMAGE THAT ALL THE TIME. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          UH, THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE. 
          AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DEDICATED, UH, SAFE ACCESS TO THE NEL SYSTEM AND WHICH PUT PUT OUR STAFF, OUR  AT RISK. 
          UM, WE RECENTLY HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE, ONE OF THE, WE DO, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASON WHY WE HAD THAT LEAK IN THE, WE DO, BECAUSE, UH, WE ALWAYS STRUGGLING TO GET THE, THE BOATS THE WE DO. 
          AND, AND, AND OUT OF THE CURRENT SYSTEM FOR THE FY 2025 BUDGET, UH, THERE WERE FUNDS ALLOCATED, UH, FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF, UH, OF THE BOAT RAMP SYSTEM. 
          UH, ACTUALLY $700,000 WAS ALLOCATED FOR DESIGN AND 
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CONSTRUCTION. 
          UH, BACK IN 2016, UH, THE CITY ASSESSED SEVERAL LOCATIONS SUITABLE FOR BOAT REP. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT 26 LOCATIONS THAT CAN BE, UH, SUITED FOR BOAT RAMP. 
          UH, BUT THIS PHASE OF THE PROJECT IS ONLY FOR SIX BOAT RAMP. 
          UH, THE REASON WHY WE'RE GOING WITH SIX, UH, BOAT RAMP RIGHT NOW, THOSE ARE THE LOCATIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHALLENGE, UH, RIGHT. 
          UH, THE PROCESS TO GET THE BOAT RAMP, WE NEED, UH, AN EASEMENT BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE LOCATIONS ARE WEAKENED PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          UH, WE NEED TO GO GET EASEMENT FROM THE RESIDENT. 
          AND IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE. 
          SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THE RESIDENT THAT SAYS, YES, THEY'RE WILLING TO SIGN THE, THE, THE EASEMENT, BUT, UH, DEALING WITH THE MORTGAGE, UH, COMPANY SOMETIMES, UH, IS CHALLENGING. 
          BUT WE FEEL LIKE THE SIX, UH, M THAT WE'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, WE DON'T NEED TO GO TO ALL OF THOSE, UH, CHALLENGES. 
          WE CAN MOVE, UH, TO DESIGN AND HOPEFULLY, UH, TO CONSTRUCTION, UH, PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          MALAM MAYOR, UH, CAVEN THOMPSON AND ASSOCIATES IS ONE OF THE CONSULTANT THAT, UH, UH, SELECTED THROUGH THE LIBRARY OF CONSULT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE RESOLUTION. 
          UH, WE ASKED THEM FOR A PROPOSAL TO DESIGN THE, THE BOAT RAMP. 
          THEY SUBMITTED THE PROPOSAL IN AMOUNT IN, IN THE AMOUNT OF $156,170. 
          AND IT'S BEEN A LONG DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH. 
          UH, THE PRICE WAS WAY HIGHER THAN THAT. 
          UH, I DON'T WANNA BRAG, BUT I KIND OF, UH, WORK HARD TO BRING IT DOWN. 
          AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE BOARDROOM, THEY'RE NOT STANDARD, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST PICTURE, IT JUST, IT STARTED JUST A RAMP. 
          IT'S PRETTY MUCH A, A STRUCTURE THEY HAVE TO BUILD. 
          SO THEY HAVE TO DO STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS, ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS, SURVEYING OF THE, OF THE SHORELINE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ATE. 
          AND IF SO, WE HAVE TO JUDGE. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF ENGINEERING THAT THERE IS INVOLVED COMPARED TO IF IT WAS A SIMPLE SHORELINE WHERE THEY WOULD'VE TO DESIGN IT, IT WOULD BE WAY LESS COSTLY THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING DOING RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT, UH, ALL OF THE BOTWIN ARE NOT STANDARD, UH, SO THAT REQUIRE EXTENSIVE OR MAYBE ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING ANALYSIS, UH, SO WE FEEL LIKE THE PRICE IS WITHIN STANDARD. 
          SO I'M LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM THE SILICON COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          MAYOR, I ANSWER ANY QUESTION ABOUT MAYOR FOR THIS TIME. 
          COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. THANK, THANK YOU, RON. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          SO YOU ARE TELLING ME IT'S GONNA COST $156,170 AND ALL. 
          WHAT WE ARE GETTING FOR THIS IS, UM, A DE A SURVEY AND AN ENGINEER DESIGN, A DESIGN AND A SURVEY, UH, TO MAYOR. 
          SO THE SURVEY AND THE DESIGN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE COMPLETE PACKAGE TO TAKE THE PROJECT OUT TO BID FOR CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO WE'LL GET THE PLANS, WE'LL GET ASSISTANCE FROM, UH, THE CONSULTANT DURING THE BILLING PROCESS. 
          UH, AND ALL OF THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE PRICE. 
          RIGHT? SO WHAT I WANNA UNDERSTAND, THIS IS THIS 156,000 IS JUST FOR THE SURVEY AND THE DESIGN. 
          AND THEN WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH MONEY TO BILL THAT DESIGN THAT THEY, THEY PROVIDE TO US. 
          DO YOU REMEMBER, MAYOR? YES, BUT THE BUDGET AND THE BUDGET, WE HAVE $700,000 FOR BOTH DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. RON IS CRAVEN THOMPSON THE ONLY COMPANY IN OUR LIBRARY THAT CAN, UM, DO THIS TYPE OF WORK? AND IF NOT, DID WE CONSULT WITH ONE OF THE OTHER LIBRARY, UH, ENTRIES? UM, NO, THEY'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE, BUT THE PROCESS OF THE LIBRARY, WE GO BY ORDER. 
          SO AFTER WE, WE USE ONE CONSULTANT, WE GO MOVE DOWN THE LIST AND SO ON. 
          UH, MAY MAYBE, UH, TO MY MANAGER, MRS. WILLIAM CAN, CAN ASSIST WITH ANSWERING THE QUESTION PROPERLY. 
          BUT, UH, THAT'S, UH, THE PROCEDURE TOOL, UH, PROCUREMENT SERVICES, MADAM MAYOR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY. 
          UH, GOOD, GOOD. 
          UH, EVENING ONCE AGAIN, BOBBY WILLIAMS. UH, FOR, FOR THE RECORD, UH, WHAT MR. UH, DIRECTOR, UH, DES BROS WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS THE, UH, COMPETITIVE, WELL, I'M SORRY, THE CONSULTANTS COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATIONS ACT. 
          UM, SO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT, UM, ARE AWARDED PER THE, UH, STATE, UM, THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTE, WHICH IS THE, UH, COMPETITIVE, I'M SORRY, CONSULTANTS COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION ACT. 
          AND THEY WERE COMPETITIVELY AWARDED AND RANKED RANKED. 
          AND SO WE CANNOT, UH, GO BACK AND, 
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UM, HAVE THOSE SAME COMPANIES TO COMPETE FOR SERVICES WHEN WE ISSUE A TASK ORDER, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE ON A ROTATIONAL BASIS BASED UPON THE DISCIPLINE THAT'S NEEDED. 
          UM, THE, UH, FIRST CONTRACTOR THAT'S AVAILABLE, OR THE FIRST FIRM THAT'S AVAILABLE, THAT'S WHO WE HAVE TO GO WITH. 
          UH, WE, WE, BEING THE CITY, WE RANKED THOSE COMPANIES AND WE AWARDED THEM A CONTRACT SO THEY CAN ALL DO THE WORK. 
          UH, WE CAN ONLY GO TO A SECONDARY FIRM IF WE CANNOT NEGOTIATE WITH THE FIRST FIRM. 
          UM, BUT WE CANNOT ISSUE ANOTHER, UH, COMPETITIVE ACTIVITY, UM, FOR THOSE COMPANIES TO PARTICIPATE IN AFTER THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN RANKED PER THE STATE STATUTE. 
          SO WE WOULD NEVER KNOW IF COMPANY X, Y, Z COULD DO THE JOB JUST AS EFFICIENTLY FOR LESS BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU JUST STATED. 
          UH, YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          THE, UH, CCNA PROCESS IS A VERY, UH, I WANNA SAY RIGID PROCESS THAT DOES NOT CONSIDER PRICING. 
          UM, SO WHEN WE ARE GOING OUT TO, TO BID, WE ONLY CONSIDER, UH, SPECIFIC, UH, PROFESSIONAL CRITERIA WITH PRICING POINT CANNOT BE A CRITERIA. 
          SO IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE GET THE PERSON WHO IS NEXT ON THE ROTATION LIST COULD, COULD BE THE HIGHEST, UH, BUT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THEIR PRICING POINT, UM, AFTER WE, UH, DISCUSS A TASK ORDER. 
          UM, SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU DO NOT ACCEPT THE, UH, 1 56, I THINK IT WAS, UH, THEN AND ONLY THEN CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT PERSON ON THE LIST, AND THAT NEXT PERSON COULD VERY WELL BE $200,000. 
          SO IT'S NOT BASED UPON PRICE AT ALL, IT'S SPECIFIC TO THE PROFESSION. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BOBBY. 
          THAT'S STRANGE. 
          SO I HAVE IT. 
          YES, PLEASE. 
          NO, SHE'S GONE. 
          I WANTED TO, YOU WANNA ASK MS. BOBBY A QUESTION? YES, MS. BOBBY, BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THAT, THERE, THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT PRICING. 
          SO WHY WOULD THERE BE, WHY WOULD YOU SEND IT OUT A BIT? I, YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          SO THE, HOW I UNDERSTAND THE, UH, HOW THE ACT CAME ABOUT IS TO ENSURE, UH, THAT WE HAVE PROPER BUILDINGS ERECTED, UH, VERSUS, UH, GOVERNMENTS TRYING TO, UH, COMPETE WITH THE LOWEST BID TO, TO BUILD. 
          UM, SO FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROCESS, AGAIN, IT IS REALLY, UH, HEAVILY REGARDED. 
          UM, I'M SURE THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN CERTAINLY BACK ME UP ON THIS ONE, AND PRICING POINT IS NOT A FACTOR. 
          UH, AGAIN, IT IS SPECIFIC TO, UH, HOW WELL THE COMPANY CAN PERFORM BASED UPON THEIR EXPERIENCE, BASED UPON THEIR, UH, THEIR LICENSES, BASED UPON THEIR PRIOR PERFORMANCE. 
          AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE RANKED. 
          FEW YEARS AGO, WE DID WENT THROUGH, WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF RANKING AND THEN AWARDING SEVERAL, SEVERAL AWARDS, UM, FOR SPECIFIC DISCIPLINES. 
          AND AGAIN, THEY'RE ON A ROTATIONAL BASIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT'S AN ENLIGHTENMENT TO ME, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER THOMAS' AS THOMAS, SHE'S, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, MADAM MAYOR. 
          UM, YEAH, IT TRULY IS AN ENLIGHTENING TO ME BECAUSE I DO RECALL WHEN WE VOTED ON, UM, THOSE CONTRACTORS THAT WERE IN THE LIBRARY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN USING THEM. 
          SO HOW DO WE, AS IT STANDS, WHAT I'M HEARING, UM, MS. ROBBIE, IS THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE CONTROL OVER THEM. 
          THEY GO ON A ROTATING BASIS. 
          UM, LOOKING AT FUTURE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET A NEW SET OFF? I, I'VE HEARD CR CRAVINGS, UH, FOR, I'VE, YOU KNOW, BEEN A COMMISSIONER HERE AND FIRE AS WELL TO GET ADDITIONAL CONTRACTORS IN, IN THE ROLE OF LIBRARY AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ALSO, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CRITERIA IS FOR THEM TO BE IN THE LIBRARY, BUT, UM, AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YEARS, CAN WE HAVE ADDED PUT IN THERE OR SOME TAKEN OUT OF YOU, MADAM MAYOR? THE CURRENT CONTRACTS, UH, HAVE A, I BELIEVE A THREE YEAR CONTRACT AND THEN WE HAVE AN OPTION TO RENEW FOR AN ADDITIONAL THREE YEARS. 
          AT THAT, AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD DO AN ENTIRE NEW, UH, REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION FOR THE ENTIRE, ALL OF THE DISCIPLINES FOR, UH, FOR OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. 
          SO AT THAT TIME, WHOEVER'S INTERESTED CAN CERTAINLY SUBMIT A PROPOSAL AND THEY WILL BE, UH, REVIEWED AND CONSIDERED AND RANKED. 
          AND IF THEY MEET THE CUTOFF, THEY WILL CERTAINLY BECOME ONE OF OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES PROVIDERS. 
          ALRIGHT, SO MUCH, 
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MR. RON, YOU TOLD US HOW MUCH IS IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT, HOW MUCH, WHAT IS CONSTRUCTION OR WOOD CONSTRUCTION PROJECTED? HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK CONSTRUCTION WOULD COST, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE, WHAT, 700 AND SOME DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET FOR IT? YES. 
          UM, WE DON'T HAVE A ESTIMATE FOR CONSTRUCTION. 
          USUALLY AFTER THE PLANS ARE, UH, DESIGNED, WE WILL HAVE MORE DETAIL, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE COST FOR CONSTRUCTION WILL BE WITHIN THE RANGE OF WHAT WAS BUDGETED. 
          UM, A MINUTE. 
          ALSO, YOU STATED THAT THE HOMEOWNER WOULD NEED TO GIVE PERMISSION IN ORDER FOR THE RAMP TO BE BUILT. 
          DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY? UM,  NOT FOR THOSE SIX, UH, RAMPS. 
          THIS IS JUST ONE PHASE OF, OF, UH, THE, THE BALTIMORE PROJECT. 
          WE ULTIMATELY WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO BUILD MORE IN THE FUTURE, AND SOME OF THEM ARE WITHIN PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF DELAYING, UH, SOME OF THEM BECAUSE THE, THE PROBLEM IS IF IT WAS JUST ONE CANAL, UH, THAT GOES ALL AROUND, YOU COULD ACCESS THAT WITH ONE POINT AND GO, GO ALL THE WAY. 
          BUT BECAUSE OF BRIDGES, UH, CULVERT, SOME OF THEM ARE SECTIONED WHERE YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE BOAT OUT AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND MOVE IT LOCATION AFTER LOCATION. 
          THAT'S WHY THERE ARE SO MANY LOCATION THAT WE ACCESS, UH, THE WHOLE KIND SYSTEM AND EVEN, UH, THE WATER LEVEL RIGHT NOW, UH, WE SEE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS. 
          UH, THE WATER LEVEL IS REALLY, REALLY LOW AND THAT'S ANOTHER CHALLENGE. 
          UM, BUT YES. 
          UM, WHAT'S THE USUAL TIMEFRAME FOR DESIGN? HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE THAT PHASE THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING, DISCUSSING? UH, TWO, IT DEPENDS ON THE PROJECT, BUT FOR, FOR PROJECT THAT THIS PROJECT, I WOULD SAY BY DECEMBER WE SHOULD HAVE A, A COMPLETE DESIGN READY TO GO OUT FOR BID. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MR. THANK YOU, MADAM. 
          MADAM. 
          ITEM NUMBER 
          [I.  DISCUSSION REGARDING THE EXECUTION OF A STATE HIGHWAY LIGHTING MAINTENANCE AND COMPENSATION AGREEMENT (ASM26) WITH  FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (FDOT)]
FIVE I DISCUSSION REGARDING THE EXECUTION OF A STATE HIGHWAY LIGHTING MAINTENANCE AND COMPENSATION AGREEMENT WITH FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          MADAM MAYOR RON DE BRUNI WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM. 
          THANK YOU, MR. PROTOCOL. 
          ESTABL MADAM MAYOR. 
          UH, THIS ITEM IS A DISCUSSION REGARDING EXECUTION OF, UH, MAINTENANCE AND COMPENSATION AGREEMENT WITH, UH, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR STREETLIGHT MAINTENANCE. 
          UH, AS YOU KNOW, MADAM MAYOR, UH, STATE WARD SEVEN FROM COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD TO NORTHWEST 19TH STREET, UH, AUCKLAND PARK BOULEVARD FROM NORTHWEST 31ST AVENUE TO THE TURNPIKE. 
          UH, THOSE ARE WHERE WE BELONG TO FDOT. 
          UH, BUT THEY DO HAVE LIGHT, UH, ALL ALONG, WHICH PROVIDES SAFETY FOR PEDESTRIAN, UH, ON BOTH, UH, DIRECTIONS. 
          AND BACK IN 20, BACK IN 2003, UH, THE CITY ENTERED AN AGREEMENT WITH FDOT TO MAINTAIN THE LIGHTS THAT WE TURNED THE FDLT WIDE AWAY. 
          AND AT THAT TIME, THE COMPENSATION WAS JUST $2,400 ROUGHLY, AND THAT WAS LIKE 20 SOMETHING YEARS AGO. 
          UH, SO EVERY YEAR THEY MAKE ADJUSTMENT TO THAT AMOUNT, AND ALSO THEY DO IT BASED ON, UH, COST OF LIVING, BUT ALSO HOW MANY LIGHTS THEY ADD TO THE SYSTEM. 
          UH, THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS TO THE CITY MAINTAINING THE, THE LIGHT BECAUSE IT TAKES US A SHORTER TIME TO DO THE MAINTENANCE. 
          UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE CONTRACTORS ON BOARD, WE CAN CALL 'EM ANYTIME AND FIX IT. 
          NOT ONLY THAT, UH, SOME OF THE LIGHTS WERE UPGRADED. 
          UH, PER THE CEILING RECOMMENDATION, WE HAVE A LOT OF LIGHTS THAT DOT USE A STANDARD LIGHT. 
          AND, UH, IN SOME LOCATION, LET'S SAY ON WARD SEVEN, WE HAVE THE TEARDROP, UH, BLACK BIG TEARDROP POLES THAT WE UPGRADED. 
          THE, THE LIGHT AND DOT WILL NOT MAINTAIN THOSE LIGHTS. 
          WHENEVER A CITY UPGRADE THE LIGHTING SYSTEM, DOT WILL NOT WANNA UPGRADE THE LIGHTS. 
          BUT THE GOOD THING IS THEY ARE WILLING TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE AND COMPOSITION TO HELP US, UH, PAY FOR ENERGY AND ALSO WHEN THERE'S, THERE'S A DAMAGE. 
          AND, UH, SO DT HAS BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF GRADING THEIR, THEIR AGREEMENT, UH, NOT JUST FOR US, BUT THROUGHOUT THE STATE. 
          SO THE, THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO STREAMLINE THEIR AGREEMENT, TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT ACROSS THE STATE, UH, USING THE SAME LANGUAGE, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO UPGRADE, UH, THE AGREEMENT. 
          UH, CURRENTLY OUR COMPOSITION BASED ON THE CREDIT AGREEMENT IS, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF $67,123. 
          SO THERE'S A 
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TOTAL OF 193 LIGHT POLE, UH, UM, FROM AUCKLAND PARK BOULEVARD AND CIVIL SEVEN. 
          UH, WE MAINTAIN THOSE LIGHTS FOR ENERGY, UH, AND ANY DAMAGE, UH, BRIEFLY IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, MADAM MAYOR, UH, AND 20 22, 20 23, UH, WE RECEIVED $42,025 FROM FDOT, BUT WE ONLY SPENT 9,447 AND 2023. 
          2024, WE RECEIVED $49,188. 
          WE SPENT 34,613. 
          UM, THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE RECEIVED $61,469. 
          SO FAR WE ARE AT 14,000, UH, 524. 
          UH, IF WE DON'T USE THE WHOLE THING, WE GET TO KEEP THE, THE BALANCE OF IT. 
          UH, BUT SO FAR WE ARE TURNING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          UH, EVEN THOUGH THERE HAS BEEN SOME VANDALISM WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO SEAL THE WIRE, UH, ALONG OAKLAND PARK BOULEVARD, UH, WHICH IS WEIRD, BUT, UH, UM, THE YEAR THAT WE HAVE THE MOST EXPENSES ARE WHEN WE HAVE ACCIDENT LIKE CARS DRIVING INTO THE POLES AND WE HAVE TO REPLACE THE POLES. 
          BUT FOR REGULAR MAINTENANCE, LET'S SAY LIGHT BULB SWITCH OR FUELS, WE DON'T REALLY SPEND A LOT. 
          UH, AND THERE'S NOT REALLY A LOT OF MAJOR CHANGES FROM THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT WITH THE CREDIT AGREEMENT. 
          THE, THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT, THERE WAS NO, UH, TERM IN TERMS OF EXPIRATION OF THE AGREEMENT. 
          BUT THIS ONE FOR SEVEN YEARS, EVERY SEVEN YEARS, WE'LL HAVE TO RENEW IT. 
          BUT, UH, IT'S ALL FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY. 
          NOT ONLY THAT, WE OWN SOME OF THE POS, WE UPGRADED THE PORTS AND WE GET COMPENSATED. 
          UH, AND SO FAR IT'S BEEN TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY WHERE WE, INSTEAD OF EXPANDING FUNDS, WE GET TO KEEP THE BALANCE OF IT, UH, UH, MADAM MAYOR. 
          SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION ABOUT FROM ME. 
          UNDERSTAND COLLEAGUES, I HAVE THE A. 
          THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU MADAM. 
          MADAM MANAGER. 
          ITEM NUMBER FIVE 
          [J.  DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PURCHASE OF THE 14' STEEL FLATBED DUMP TRUCK FROM SBL FREIGHTLINER, LLC, IN THE AMOUNT OF ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND NINETY DOLLARS ($138,890.00) IN ACCORDANCE WITH  FLORIDA SHERIFF ASSOCIATION COOPERATIVE PROGRAM CONTRACT NO. FSA23-VEH21.1, HEAVY TRUCKS AND BUSES]
J. 
          DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PURCHASE OF A 14 FOOT STEEL FLATBED DUMP TRUCK FROM SVL FREIGHT LINER, LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $138,890. 
          IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLORIDA SHERIFF ASSOCIATION COOPERATIVE PROGRAM CONTRACT AS NUMBERED HEAVY TRUCKS AND BUSES. 
          AND MR. RHONDA BRUNI WILL ALSO PRESENT THAT ITEM THROUGH YOU. 
          MADAM MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, MR. PROTOCOL ESTABLISHMENT. 
          MAYOR. 
          UH, WE HAVE A, UM, AS PART OF OUR FLEET, UH, WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT, UH, BUT WE DO HAVE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT CALLED A FLATBED TRUCK. 
          IT'S A DUMP TRUCK THAT IS KIND OF LOWER THAN A REGULAR DUMP TRUCK. 
          IN TERMS OF OPERATION, IT HELPS A LOT BECAUSE IT'S FLAT, UH, IT HELPS HEAVY LOAD. 
          UH, WE CAN LOAD IT WITH A FORKLIFT. 
          IT'S EASY TO, TO MOVE AROUND. 
          AND IT HELP US WITH, UH, OPERATION. 
          WE USE IT, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD FROM PRETTY MUCH ALL DIVISIONS, UH, WHETHER IT'S STORMWATER OR STREET DIVISION, WHEN WE NEED TO TRANSPORT ASPHALT FOR WOODWAY REPAIR, UH, EQUIPMENT FOR SIDEWALK. 
          UM, EVEN, UH, LAST YEAR DURING THE SEND, UH, BAG DISTRIBUTION, THIS IS, THIS WAS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAD TO USE. 
          GO TO HOME DEPOT, PICK UP THE SANDBAGS AND DROP 'EM AT THE LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S REALLY LOW. 
          IT'S EASY TO LOAD AND LOAD EQUIPMENT. 
          THE SHOW MOBILE, THAT'S ONE OF THE EQUIPMENT WE USE TO TRANSPORT THE SHOW MOBILE FROM POINT A TO POINT B BECAUSE IT HAS THE CONNECTIVITY TO KEEP, UH, ALL THE LIGHTS ON. 
          BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S OLD. 
          IT'S 23 YEARS OLD. 
          UH, IT'S BEEN DOWN AND UP AND DOWN. 
          UH, WE TRY TO FIX IT, BUT EVERY TIME IT GOES DOWN, WE HAVE CHALLENGES TO GET PARTS BECAUSE OF THE EDGE, UH, OF THAT EQUIPMENT. 
          SO WE REALLY NEED THAT, UH, UH, EQUIPMENT. 
          SO WE REQUESTED QUOTE FROM THREE VENDORS. 
          UH, THE FIRST ONE WAS, WAS FROM PETER BUILD IN THE AMOUNT OF $140,950. 
          UM, THE SECOND ONE WAS FROM TON INTERNATIONAL FOR 1 43 AND 270. 
          AND THE THIRD QUOTE WAS FROM FREIGHTLINER FOR ONE $65,317. 
          BUT THOSE ARE THE DIRECT PRICES. 
          WHEN WE CALL AND ASK HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST, THOSE WERE THE PRICES THAT WERE PROVIDED. 
          BUT WE DO LOOK FOR SOME CO-OP, AND ONE 
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OF THEM HAS A CO-OP WITH, UH, THE FLORIDA SHERIFF. 
          AND IF WE USE THE PRICING THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE FLORIDA SHERIFF, BECAUSE FLORIDA SHERIFF, THEY ARE, THEY'RE BUYING FOR MORE. 
          AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY GOT A BETTER PRICING. 
          SO IF, IF WE USE THEIR PRICING WITH FLORIDA SHERIFF, IT WILL COST 130 2030 406 C AND, UH, UH, FIVE YEAR ONE 50,000 INSURANCE, UH, WARRANTY FOR $6,430. 
          SO THE TOTAL PRICE USING THE FLORIDA SHA UH, CO-OP WOULD BE IN THE AMOUNT OF $138,890. 
          SO THE OTHER VENDORS, THOSE ARE STRAIGHT PRICE, BUT WITHOUT EXTENDED WARRANTY, YOU KNOW, AND WE ARE NOT EVEN SURE THAT THEY HAVE A CO-OP. 
          SO WE FEEL LIKE IF, UH, UM, WE GET APPROVAL FROM THE SILICON COMMISSION TO USE THE, THE CO-OP, IT WOULD BE A BETTER PRICING. 
          IN TERMS OF, UM, MAKE AND MODEL, THIS IS THE BEST ONE. 
          WE FEEL LIKE WE USING THE EQUIPMENT AND, UH, FOR DURABILITY AND CONSISTENCY, IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR US TO GO WITH FREIGHT LINER IF THIS IS THE WILL OF THE SEAL COMMISSION AND UH, THAT'S AN ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET, UH, MAR MAYOR, IT'LL REALLY HELP UPGRADE THE FLEET FOR THE NEXT, UM, 20 SOMETHING YEARS. 
          WE DO, LIKE, WE DO, LIKE AT OTHER OPTIONS LEASE, WE, WE CAN ARRANGE THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, BUT LEASING WOULD COST WAY MORE BECAUSE WHEN YOU LEASE OVER FIVE YEARS, IT IS PROBABLY GONNA BE MORE THAN THAT. 
          AND ALSO AT THE END OF THE LEASE YOU HAVE TO RETURN IT. 
          UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTION. 
          BOARD ME QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY. 
          IF YOU NEED IT, YOU NEED TO STOP. 
          NO QUESTIONS, MR. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MANAGER. 
          ITEM NUMBER 
          [K.  DISCUSSION REGARDING RENAMING A PORTION OF THE C-13 CANAL GREENWAY TO ESTABLISH 'VETERANS TRAIL' TO COMMEMORATE VETERANS (SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER HARRISON)]
5K DISCUSSION REGARDING RENAME AND A PORTION OF THE C 13 CANAL GREENWAY TO ESTABLISH VETERANS TRAIL TO COMMEMORATE VETERANS. 
          AND THIS ITEM IS BEING SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER HARRISON IS ONLINE AT THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HELLO. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          UM, SO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, UH, I FIGURED THAT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO SOMETHING IMPORTANT IN THE CITY TO DO SOMETHING IN THE CITY COMMEMORATING VETERANS. 
          UM, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND FINDING A LOCATION SEEMED TO BE, UH, THE CHALLENGE WITHIN THE CONVERSATION. 
          UM, THROUGH, UH, DRIVING AROUND IN A COMMUNITY AND TALKING TO A FEW PEOPLE, UM, WE REALIZED THAT A SPOT THAT WE COULD UTILIZE IS DEFINITELY OUR C 13 GREENWAY TRAIL WHERE FOLKS WALK, AND PARTICULARLY AT THE, UH, END OF THE TRAIL IS A CIRCLE ROUNDABOUT, AND IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO, I BELIEVE THE CHURCH IS MERRILL UNITED METHODIST CHURCH. 
          AND RIGHT NEXT TO THAT CHURCH IS, UH, IS A ROUNDABOUT. 
          AND I THINK AT THAT PLACE WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT SOME TYPE OF A SMALL MINIATURE MONUMENT, SOME TYPE OF A DEDICATION LOOK LIKE, UH, TOWARDS THE VETERANS, AND ALSO RENAME THAT PORTION OF THE GREENWAY TRAIL VETERANS TRAIL. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S WORTH A DISCUSSION AND JUST WANTED TO BRING THE ITEM UP FOR US TO TALK ABOUT IT. 
          MADAM MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR, I, I AM NOT POSITIVE, BUT I THINK THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT OWNS THAT TRADE. 
          TREY, MADAM CITY MANAGER. 
          MR. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          I KNOW THAT RON, AS WELL AS NASIR, EITHER OF THEM WILL SPEAK. 
          THEY HAVE HAD CONVERSATION WITH, UM, SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. 
          UH, ESTABLISHMENT, YES. 
          STAFF DID, UH, REACH OUT TO SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. 
          THEY ON THE, THE  OF THE C 13. 
          UH, SO REGARDING THE NAMING OF THE TRAIL, THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTION. 
          SO THEY SAY IT'S UP TO THE CITY, LIKE THE SILICON CAN NAME THE TRAIL HOWEVER THE CITY WANTS, BUT IF WE PLAN ON DOING ANYTHING VERTICAL WITHIN 40 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE CANAL, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH PERMIT PROCESS. 
          IT CAN BE A LENGTHY PROCESS UP TO A YEAR, BUT IT CAN BE DONE TO PERMITTING. 
          BUT AS FAR AS THE NAMING OF IT, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION. 
          UH, MS. NAIR, SORRY, MR. NA. 
          GOOD AS, SORRY. 
          MAYOR. 
          MAYOR AND COMMISSION. 
          UH, SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION. 
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I TALKED TO THEM. 
          I CAN, WE CANNOT SAY THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION. 
          THAT CONDITION THEY PUT AS THE, THEY'RE THE RIGHT OF OUR OWNER. 
          SO BASICALLY, UH, WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT AND IT MAY GO TO THEIR BOARD. 
          SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO. 
          IF IT GOES TO THEIR BOARD, THEN WE CANNOT SAY THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION THAT IS BEYOND OUR CONTROL. 
          IN THAT CASE, IT MAY TAKE UP TO A YEAR, BUT IF IT DOES NOT GO THERE, THEN IT CAN BE LESS THAN A YEAR. 
          BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS CAN BE DONE AT THE STAFF LEVEL OR IT'LL GO TO THE BOARD. 
          THEY CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          SO YOU CAN PROPOSE IT. 
          ONCE YOU APPROVE THE, ONCE YOU HAVE THE RESOLUTION, WE HAVE TO PREPARE THE PLAN ON, WE SUBMIT THAT ONLY AFTER THAT THEY CAN LET US KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO FORWARD IT TO THEIR BOARD OR NOT. 
          BEFORE THAT, WE CANNOT SAY ANYTHING THAT THIS WILL BE PERMITTED OR NOT. 
          MADAM VICE MAYOR, WELL, MR. NASIR, I WOULD, IT'S UP, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE. 
          SO TECHNICALLY IT'S NOT THAT THEY, ONE PERSON CAN HAVE AN OBJECTION TO IT. 
          SO, UH, THROUGH MADAM MARIA, YES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
          YES, BUT I, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS, I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THE CANAL. 
          UM, I, I THINK THEY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEY WANTED THE PARK, UM, OR THE MONUMENT, UM, AT THE FRONT TO, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE MONUMENT, BUT THE, THIS LITTLE CANAL, I MEAN, WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S DISRESPECTFUL. 
          I AM, NO, AND UH, UH, THROUGH YOU MADAM MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO ADD, UH, BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE WITH SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IN THIS CITY, UM, WE HAD PERMIT FOR THE WALKWAY TRAIL BETWEEN SR SEVEN AND 31ST AVENUE UP TO OUR CITY LIMIT ON THE EAST SIDE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE TRAIL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT TOOK AROUND TWO YEARS TO GET THE PERMIT THERE. 
          WE DID NOT PUT ANY PARTICLE STRUCTURE. 
          FIRST THING THEY HAVE RESTRICTION THAT THEY DON'T ALLOW ANY PARTICLE STRUCTURE WITHIN 40 FEET OF THE AGE OF THE WATER. 
          THERE IS FAST RESTRICTION, SECOND RESTRICTION. 
          UH, IT IS VERY SIMPLE. 
          WE THOUGHT AT THE BEGINNING AS WE DID NOT PROPOSE ANY VERTICAL, BUT AT THE END THEY SAID, OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO SEND IT TO THE BOARD. 
          SO IT TOOK AROUND TWO YEARS TO GET THE PERMIT LAST. 
          THAT IS MY LAST EXPERIENCE WITH SOUTH WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. 
          I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VETERANS COMMEMORATION PART MM-HMM. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S VISIBLE. 
          YES. 
          IN A VERY IMPACTFUL WAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE UTILIZE THE TRAILWAY. 
          I KNOW THERE ARE SOME, THERE ARE SOME WALKERS AND RUNNERS, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE MORE VISIBLE. 
          IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING FOR OUR VETERANS, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK TO THE SERVICE THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN TO US. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MAYBE MADAM MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR, MAYBE NOW THAT THE PARK ON NORTH GATE PARK MM-HMM . 
          NO LONGER. 
          THERE IS, MAYBE THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO FOCUS, FOCUS ON YES. 
          THAT MAYBE THEY WILL ALLOW THAT PARK TO BE NAMED VETERANS, NORTHGATE, VETERANS, WHATEVER PARK. 
          BUT MR. MEIR, MADAM MAYOR, MADAM, HOW MUCH FRONTAGE FROM THE CANAL, YOU SAID IT? 40, AT LEAST 40 FEET. 
          MORE THAN 40 FEET WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, THROUGH THE MADAM AREA. 
          YES. 
          UH, BASE MIRROR, UH, WE IN AT THAT, UH, CORNER ON THE WEST SIDE, EAST SIDE, WEST SIDE, EAST SIDE, WE HAVE TO PUT ON BOTH SIDE. 
          I KNOW WHERE WE HAVE THE ROUND ABOUT THE CIRCLE. 
          WE DO HAVE MORE THAN 40 FEET, BUT IT HAS TO BE DESIGNED. 
          AND, UH, THOUGH WE CAN DO THE IN-HOUSE DESIGN STILL, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SURVEY. 
          I KNOW. 
          SO THAT'S GOING TO COST SOME MONEY. 
          AND ON THE EAST SIDE, UM, I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH RIGHT OF OR NOT, BUT IF WE GO BEYOND THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEN THIS COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO THAT WILL BE, UH, ANOTHER PROBLEM. 
          OR THE OTHER OPTION IF WE HAVE, IF WE CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF PERMANENT EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, WE CAN GO OUTSIDE THE SOUTH FLORIDA, RIGHT. 
          WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT RIGHT OF WAY, THEN WE CAN ADD THE COMPLEXITY. 
          BUT, UH, THAT WILL BE DIFFICULT AND NOT THE PREFERRED METHOD. 
          AND, UH, OTHER THING, IF WE PUT AN PARTICLE STRUCTURE, I'M KIND OF CERTAIN IT'LL GO TO THE BOARD. 
          SO YOU CAN THINK ABOUT TWO YEARS TIMELINE. 
          THREE YEARS. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          SORRY, SORRY. 
          NO, COMMISSIONER THOMAS IS WAITING. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS, 
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IS SHE STILL THERE? MS. FOX? SHE IS, HER HANDS IS STILL UP. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS, YOU ALSO HAVE COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK. 
          UH, EVERYONE. 
          SO LISTEN, I JUST KNOW AT THE LAST DISCUSSION, ALL WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT CAN WE DO IN THIS CITY AND WHERE, UH, TO HONOR OUR VETERANS? SO I JUST WANTED TO BE PROACTIVE AND JUST COME BACK WITH AN IDEA. 
          UM, NOW NAMING THE C 13 CANAL AND PUTTING THE MONUMENT, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS. 
          UM, SO TO NAME IT, AND IT, IT WOULDN'T TAKE TWO YEARS TIME TO NAME THE CANAL, TO, TO DEDICATE IT AND RENAME IT AND TO DEDICATE IT FOR SUCH. 
          PUTTING A LITTLE MONUMENT THERE IS SEPARATE. 
          BUT, UM, IF, IF THE COLLEAGUES THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, IF THEY WANTED ME TO BRING BACK AN IDEA OF DOING IT FOR NORTHGATE, UH, VETERANS PARK OR VETERANS NORTHGATE PARK, I THINK THAT'S A SOLID IDEA AS WELL. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO BE THE ONE TO BRING UP AND START THE CONVERSATION SO WE CAN ACTUALLY, UM, UH, LOOK AT ANOTHER SPOT. 
          SO, UH, IF, IF IT'S, UH, UH, UH, A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER IDEA, I THINK, UH, THE NORTHGATE PARK IS A FEASIBLE IDEA AS WELL, SO WOULDN'T BE AGAINST IT. 
          THE DISCUSSION IN REFERENCE TO NAMING OR RENAMING A STRUCTURE OR A PARK OR A FACILITY FOR OUR VETERANS HAS BEEN, UM, DISCUSSED FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          OUR, OUR COMMISSIONER, MAXWELL WILLIAMS INITIATED THAT DISCUSSION SEVERAL YEARS AGO. 
          I CANNOT REMEMBER HOW MANY YEARS AGO IT IS. 
          AND SHE HAS BEEN DILIGENTLY AND INSTEAD VASTLY DISCUSSING THAT ITEM. 
          SO WE ARE HERE NOW TRYING TO DECIDE WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE RECOGNITION OF OUR VETERANS, BUT OUR DISCUSSION HAS BEEN GOING ONGOING FOR NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS YEARS. 
          AND NOW IT APPEARS AS IF WE'RE FULL CIRCLE TO, TO NORTHGATE PARK. 
          AND OF COURSE WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE INPUT OF THE RESIDENTS OF NORTHGATE IN, IN, IN WHATEVER DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE. 
          IN REFERENCE TO THAT. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS, DID COMMISSIONER THOMAS EVER GET BACK? UM, YES. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          UM, I, I DO AGREE IN TERMS OF WITH THE, THE C 13 CANAL NOT TO BE USED. 
          AND I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER HARRISON FOR CHIMING IN TO FIND A PLACE FOR THEM, BUT I, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE C 13. 
          I THINK IN TERMS OF EXPOSURE, UM, FOR RECOGNIZING THE VETERANS, IT NEEDS TO BE SOMEPLACE MORE VISIBLE. 
          UM, AND AS YOU EXPRESS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A COUPLE YEARS, WELL, THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER CARLY MAXWELL WILLIAMS HAVE BEEN, UM, PUTTING FORTH THE EFFORT TO GET THIS DONE FOR THE VETERANS. 
          AND I'M, I'M ALL FOR IT. 
          AND I KNOW AS WE CONTINUE TO SEARCH OUR CITY AND LOOK, WE WILL FIND SOMETHING. 
          I KNOW IT WAS PROPOSED, WE EVEN SAID WHERE THE MONUMENT WAS, THAT WE DO ALL THE, YOU KNOW, UM, VETERANS DAY, LOOKING AT THAT AS INCORPORATING SOMETHING FOR VETERANS AS WELL. 
          SO PERHAPS WE CAN REVISIT THAT, THAT SPOT AS WELL. 
          'CAUSE IT IS VISIBLE TO, UM, THOSE PASS BY OR WHEN WE DO OUR VETERAN'S DAY OR MEMORIAL DAY PUTTING OUT THE FLAGS, IT'S RIGHT THERE. 
          SO MAYBE SOMETHING CAN BE, UM, LOOKED INTO FOR THAT SPOT AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER CHAIRMAN, MADAM MAYOR. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          HEY EVERYBODY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION. 
          SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO BE PROACTIVE. 
          IF WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THIS FOR TWO YEARS AND THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. 
          I KNOW WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT PRIOR. 
          UM, IF COMMISSIONER CARLY MAXWELL WILLIAMS, UH, WAS INITIATED THE CONVERSATION, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT EITHER, BUT I'M SO HAPPY FOR HER TO CONTINUE WITH IT. 
          I JUST KNOW WE, UM, WAS TALKING ABOUT A LOCATION I DIDN'T KNOW. 
          IT TOOK, UH, A WHILE TO DO THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE HELPFUL TOWARDS THAT. 
          AND I THOUGHT THE C 13 CANAL WOULD'VE BEEN SUCH A UNIQUE PLACE TO DO IT. 
          I DID CONSULT WITH STAFF FOR THE FEASIBILITY AND IT JUST CAME OFF AS A GOOD IDEA. 
          UH, BUT BY NO MEANS THAT I WANT TO, UH,  IN ANY WAY IMPEDE THE DISCUSSION THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS, FOR FINDING SOMETHING TO COMMEMORATE VETERANS WITHIN OUR CITY. 
          SO, UM, I WILL LEAVE THIS ITEM ALONE AND IF SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT UP, UM, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY FOR THAT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO BE 
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A PART OF THE EFFORT TO DO SOMETHING FOR DISCUSSION. 
          NO, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          YOU SHOULD BE FINISHED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MR. NAIA. 
          THANK YOU, MR. RON. 
          MADAM MANAGER. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          NEXT 
          [L.  DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE FOR HIRING A NEW CITY MANAGER (SPONSORED BY MAYOR EDWARDS PHILLIPS)]
DISCUSSION IS ITEM FIVE L, DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE FOR HIRING A NEW CITY MANAGER. 
          AND THIS ITEM IS SPONSORED BY MAYOR EDWARDS PHILLIPS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, AS WE ALL KNOW, OF HIRING A NEW CITY MANAGER, BUT WE ALSO ARE IN THE PRELIMINARY PROCESS OF DETERMINING A, A FIRM. 
          SO, MS. BOBBY, IF YOU WOULD COME AND LET US KNOW, I THINK AT OUR LAST UPDATE WE HAD EIGHT FIRMS WHO EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN DOING WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE THEM TO DO. 
          SO GIVE US AN UPDATE, PLEASE. 
          UH, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CURRENT UPDATES SO EVERYONE WILL BE INFORMED AND UPDATED ON A TIMELY BASIS. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UM, PER, PER OUR COMMITMENT, UM, TO THE COMMISSION, UM, WE WILL BE, UH, JUST WALKING THROUGH, UM, SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE OUR LAST WORKSHOP. 
          UM, OH, UH, AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, BOBBY WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES. 
          UM, AS YOU STATED, MADAM MAYOR, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS THAT YOU AS THE COMMISSION WILL, WILL MAKE. 
          AND, UH, TO FACILITATE THAT PROCESS, WE ARE MOVING, UH, QUICKLY AHEAD, UH, WITH TRYING TO, UH, SELECT, RECRUIT AND SELECT AN EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM TO, UH, FOR, FOR THAT PURPOSE. 
          UM, ON JUNE 3RD, WE DID ISSUE A REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL AT THE, UH, WORKSHOP HELD, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE LAST MEETING IN MAY, WE DID PROVIDE A COPY OF THE COMPLETE SOLICITATION. 
          UM, SINCE, UM, SINCE THAT TIME, UM, WE DID REACH OUT TO A LITTLE OVER 800 FIRMS, UH, THAT HAD THE COMMODITY CODE, UM, RELATED TO SENIOR EXECUTIVE, UM, RECRUITMENT. 
          UM, BUT ALSO TOO, AS OF THURSDAY, WE HAD 25 PLAN HOLDERS, BUT AS OF TODAY, WE HAD 28. 
          UM, SO THE LONGER OUR, UH, SOLICITATION IS ON THE MARKET, THE MORE PEOPLE ARE, UH, FINDING INTEREST, UH, IN THE, UH, IN THE WORK ACTIVITY. 
          SO WE DID RECEIVE, UH, SEVERAL QUESTIONS, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC. 
          AND, UH, ON YOUR, ON YOUR DESK, YOU DO HAVE A COPY OF ADDENDUMS ONE AND ADDENDUMS TWO. 
          UM, PER THE, UH, STATE REQUIREMENT, WE DO HAVE TO PROVIDE UNIFORM RESPONSES. 
          UM, SO WHENEVER WE GET QUESTIONS, WE HAVE TO ISSUE THE RESPONSES OUT TO EVERYBODY, UH, THAT HAS A COPY OF THE SOLICITATION AND TO THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, SO WE'VE DONE THAT SO FAR. 
          UM, SINCE WE'VE PUBLISHED ADDENDUM ONE AND TWO, A FEW MORE QUESTIONS, UH, HAVE, HAVE COME IN AND I DO NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE WITH PROVIDING A RESPONSE. 
          THE, UH, FIRST QUESTION IS, WOULD THIS BE A NATIONWIDE SEARCH OR WOULD YOU WANT TO LIMIT THE SEARCH TO, UH, SOUTH FLORIDA OR TO FLORIDA IN GENERAL? WHERE'S THAT QUESTION ON HERE, MS. BOBBY? UH, THIS IS A, A PENDING QUESTION THAT CAME IN TODAY, A PENDING QUESTION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD ALLOW THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH WORK EFFORT THEY NEED TO PUT INTO WORKING FOR THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES. 
          SO THEY'RE ASKING IF WE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR A NATIONWIDE SEARCH, A FLORIDA SEARCH, OR A LOCAL LOCALIZED, UH, SOUTH FLORIDA APPROACH. 
          I TO YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          I WOULD JUST STAY IN SOUTH FLORIDA OR FLORIDA. 
          FLORIDA, FLORIDA. 
          AND FOCUS A LITTLE BIT FOCUS ALSO ON OUR CITY. 
          NICE. 
          IF WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT LIVES IN OUR CITY, BUT SOUTH, I MEAN FLORIDA. 
          FLORIDA COMMISSIONER HARRISON AND COMMISSIONER THOMAS, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT? ARE THEY THERE? YEAH, THEY ARE, BUT THERE'S NO ANSWER. 
          ANSWER. 
          THERE'S NO ANSWER. 
          YES. 
          I'M HERE. 
          CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES. 
          YEAH, APOLOGIES. 
          UH, I RECOMMEND SOUTH FLORIDA AS WELL, AND I RECOMMEND FLORIDA. 
          FLORIDA BECAUSE IT'S NOT, OH, I RECOMMEND FLORIDA. 
          AND, AND IF WE DECIDE ON FLORIDA, THEN THOSE WHO ARE IN SOUTH FLORIDA, IF I ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YOU MIGHT, MAYOR. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND, AND THEN ALSO TOO, ONCE YOU DO SELECT A FIRM, WHEN THEY START TO WORK WITH YOU ON THE, UH, THE CRITERIA FOR THE CITY MANAGER, YOU CAN ALSO CHANGE YOUR APPROACH IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU CAN KEEP IT AT FLORIDA. 
          YOU COULD DO THE SOUTH FLORIDA THING, OR YOU CAN CHANGE IT HOWEVER YOU, YOU'D LIKE TO. 
          ONCE WE DO HIRE THAT PERSON, MR. THOMAS, IS SHE STILL THERE? MS. BOB? SHE IS, YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS GOING WHAT? YES, MADAM MAYOR, I'M IN FAVOR OF, 
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UM, FLORIDA, SOUTH FLORIDA PARTICULAR. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, MY MAYOR. 
          UH, ONE OTHER QUESTION DID COME IN THAT WE NEED YOUR INPUT ON AS WELL. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, FOR THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM TO MAKE A BETTER ASSESSMENT ABOUT HOW MUCH WORK EFFORT WE'RE GOING TO, UH, SEARCHING FOR OUR CITY MANAGER. 
          AND THAT'S RELATED TO, UH, HOW MUCH ONSITE OR OR IN PERSON PRESENCE THE FIRM WOULD NEED TO HAVE WITH, WITH YOU COLLEAGUES, MAXIMUM. 
          HOW MUCH, REPEAT THE QUESTION. 
          THE, THROUGH MADAM MAYOR, THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH ONSITE OR IN-PERSON TIME, WHAT THE FIRM NEEDS TO HAVE WITH YOU? UH, KEEP IN MIND THAT THE ADVERTISEMENT WENT OUT TO, UH, SEVERAL COMPANIES, OVER 800 ACROSS THE NATION. 
          UH, SO IT'S POSSIBLE WE COULD GET A FIRM FROM ALABAMA, FROM NORTH CAROLINA, FROM GEORGIA, WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN OUR WORK. 
          AND IF, IF YOU WERE TO AWARD TO, LET'S JUST SAY A FIRM IN GEORGIA OR NORTH CAROLINA, UH, SINCE THEY WOULD BE, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, OUT OF STATE, WOULD YOU WANT THAT PERSON TO PHYSICALLY BE HERE TO WORK WITH YOU OR COULD THEY WORK WITH YOU VIRTUALLY? WELL, MS BAR, I THINK WE, UH, DISCUSSED FLORIDA ONLY, ONLY. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW THIS IS NOT FOR THE CITY THREE MADAM MAYOR, THIS IS NOT FOR THE CITY MANAGER. 
          THIS IS FOR THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM. 
          OH, THE FIRM. 
          THIS IS JUST THE FIRM. 
          OKAY, WELL, GO AHEAD. 
          I, I VIA ZOOM IS FINE. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T MIND VIA ZOOM. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT WAS YOUR COMMENT? UH, COMMISSIONER, I CAN QUITE HEAR YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          THE FIRM, IF YOU'D LIKE THEM, IF THEY'RE LIKE IN ATLANTA, WOULD YOU LIKE THEM TO BE HERE IN PERSON OR BE OF ZOOM? ZOOM, YES. 
          BUT WITH SO MANY SCAMS GOING AROUND, YEAH, THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYOR, THEY'RE NOT WHO THEY ARE. 
          AND YOU, SO YOU, MADAM MAYOR, PERHAPS WE COULD, WE COULD, IF THEY COME IN PERSON, DO WE PAY, ARE WE RESPONSIBLE TO PAYING THEIR HOTEL AND AIRLINE FEES AND ALL OF THAT FOR THEM TO SEE US IN PERSON? A GREAT QUESTION. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE ASK. 
          UH, SO THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CHARGE US SEPARATELY FOR TRAVELING PER DIEM. 
          IT'LL BE JUST INCLUDED IN THEIR COST TO DO BUSINESS. 
          UH, WHAT WE CAN DO THOUGH IS WE CAN SAY THAT YOU MUST ATTEND AT LEAST TWO IN-PERSON MEETINGS AND THEN PERHAPS APPEAR VIRTUALLY FOR THE REMAINING REMAINDER OF THE, UM, INTER INTERACTIONS WITH, WITH YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          MAYBE AT THE START, TO YOU MADAM MAYOR, SORRY, MAYBE AT THE BEGINNING INITIAL I, LET'S MEET EVERYONE IN PERSON, SEE, AND THEN WE'LL BE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD. 
          ZOOM. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT SOUNDS GREAT. 
          AND JUST TO, I THINK, I'M SORRY. 
          AT THE BEGINNING, WHEN WE START TO HAVE THEM TO BE PRESENT, I THINK WE NEED TO DEVELOP A PERSONAL ONE-ON-ONE RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM BEFORE WE MOVE TO ZOOM OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF, OF, OF NON IN-PERSON ACTIVITY, BECAUSE YOU CAN TEND TO GET A FEEL FOR A PERSON WHEN YOU'RE NEXT TO THEM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING WITH THEM, WHEN YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS, FACIAL EXPRESSIONS, GESTURES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          SO WE NEED TO START OUT IN PERSON. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          WE, WE COULD DO PRESENTATIONS FOR SURE. 
          I THINK OUT IN PERSON. 
          LET ME REPHRASE. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          SO, SO I'M GONNA, UH, SAY IF WE DO CONDUCT PRESENTATIONS, THEY WILL BE IN PERSON AND THEN A MINIMUM OF AT LEAST THREE, UH, IN PERSON. 
          SO AT LEAST THAT'LL GIVE THEM AN IDEA OF HOW TO GAUGE THEIR PRICING POINT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          ONE OTHER, ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP, UH, IS WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY WOULD BORE THE COST OF TRAVEL, UH, SINCE WE ARE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE WITH FLORIDA, SOUTH FLORIDA. 
          UH, SO IF SOMEONE IS IN TALLAHASSEE AND THEY, THEY COME DOWN HERE, THE, ONE OF THE COMPANIES HAS ASKED IF, UM, THE CITY WOULD PAY FOR THEIR TRAVEL EXPENSES OR, UH, WITH THE EXECUTIVE FIRST EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM, EXCUSE ME, WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE. 
          AND THEN WE JUST PAY THE EXECUTIVE FIRM FOR LIKE A REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT TRAVEL. 
          IS IT THE SAME THING, ISN'T IT MS. BOBBY, SAME THING. 
          UH, JUST TO CLARIFY MADAM MAYOR, SO THE TWO OPTIONS WOULD BE IF SOMEONE FROM TALLAHASSEE OR YOU KNOW, FURTHER, FURTHER NORTH OR FURTHER SOUTH WANTS TO INTERVIEW, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT FINAL INTERVIEW, WHEN, WHEN THEY ARE HERE AS A CITY MANAGER, RIGHT, AS A CITY MANAGER, WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE HERE FOR THEIR INTERVIEW WITH YOU AND THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL, THE QUESTION WAS, WILL THE CITY COORDINATE WITH THAT PERSON TO PAY FOR THEIR TRAVEL TO COME HERE? OR DO WE WANT THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM TO HANDLE THE TRAVEL AND ALSO, AND THEN WE JUST REIMBURSE THE EXECUTIVE 
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SEARCH FIRM? STILL THE SAME THING, UNLESS I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING. 
          NO, THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT'S, NOT THE FIRM. 
          THE ACTUAL, UH, AND CANDIDATES CAN, BUT IF, IF, IF THE APPLICANT COMES, THE CITY DOES NOT PAY, BUT THE FIRM YOU PAY TAX THAT ON THEIR COSTS, THE CITY IS STILL PAYING FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THROUGH YOU, MADAM MAYOR, THAT THAT IS CORRECT, BUT IT IS CORRECT. 
          BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. 
          UH, WE'D BE COORDINATING DIRECTLY WITH THAT PERSON TO BOOK THEIR FLIGHT, TO BOOK THEIR HOTEL, AND WE CAN CONTROL SOME OF THE COSTS. 
          IF WE WERE TO GO WITH EXECUTIVE FIRM, UH, WE, WE MAY INCUR LIKE A OVERHEAD, UH, FOR THEIR ADMINISTRATION OF SCHEDULING THE FLIGHT, SCHEDULING THE HOTELS. 
          AND WE, WE MAY LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTROL, BUT IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU. 
          UM, THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME IN. 
          SO I WANNA MAKE SURE I PROVIDE A REALLY GOOD RESPONSE TO THE FIRMS COMMISSIONER RIGG. 
          SO SAY FOR INSTANCE, THIS PERSON IS FROM TALLAHASSEE AND WE, THEY COME DOWN FOR THE INTERVIEW AND SAY, WE HIRED THIS PERSON. 
          ARE WE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE OF PAYING HIS OR HER MOVING EXPENSES TO THE ECONOMY THAT IS TALLAHASSEE TO YES. 
          TYPICALLY THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE. 
          UN UNLESS YOU DETERMINE THAT YOU WILL NOT PAY TRAVEL. 
          BUT TYPICALLY AT THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE. 
          EITHER THE CITY WILL WORK DIRECTLY WITH THAT PERSON TO SCHEDULE A TRAVEL OR THROUGH THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT I THINK, I THINK, I THINK MS. BOBBY, FOR A CANDIDATE WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE JOB AND HE OR SHE NEEDS TO PAY HER ON TRAVEL EXPENSES HOTEL, AND ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW TALLAHASSEE IS A LONG WAY, PENSACOLA IS A LONG WAY, WHICH IS REALLY ALABAMA, IF YOU WILL. 
          BUT I THINK FOR AN APPLICANT, I THINK NEEDS TO PAY THEIR OWN EXPENSES. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. 
          MADAM MAYOR , MADAM MAYOR, SHE ASKED FOR INPUT. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRISON, THANK YOU. 
          UM, ALTHOUGH I, AND, AND MADAM MAYOR, THIS IS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, 'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. 
          UM, BUT IF, IF YOU KNOW THERE'S A CLIENT CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP THERE, YOU'RE PAYING THEM, USUALLY WHAT MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT, UM, TRAVEL IS USUALLY INCLUDED IN THAT AGREEMENT AS TO HOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, I WAS FOUR NOT EVEN GOING WITH A FIRM BECAUSE I KNEW THERE WOULD BE EXTRA CAUSES. 
          BUT SINCE THAT LOOKS LIKE THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IN THAT USUALLY, UH, TRAVEL IS TAKEN CARE OF AS WELL. 
          IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S MS. BOBBY, IF THE COMMISSION WERE TO NARROW DOWN TO THREE INDIVIDUALS TO INTERVIEW, NOT LOCAL, THEN ARE WE SAYING WE WOULD HAVE TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR EXPENSES? I THINK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, YOU CAN CHOOSE TONIGHT TO, TO SAY NO. 
          AS YOU'VE STATED THAT YOU DO NOT DESIRE TO PAY FOR ANYBODY'S TRAVEL IF THEY LIVE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 
          UH, IT IS CUSTOMARY THAT TYPICALLY WHEN WE ARE NARROWING DOWN TO THE FINAL TWO OR THREE CANDIDATES, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THE PRE-WORK AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD DISCUSSIONS AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU REALLY WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT, IT'S JUST, IT IS JUST BEEN, UH, STANDARD OR CUSTOMARY THAT, UH, EITHER THE CITY WORKS DIRECTLY WITH THAT PERSON TO, TO BOOK THEIR TRAVEL OR THEY WOULD HAVE THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM TAKE CARE OF THOSE EXPENSES AND WE REIMBURSE THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM. 
          BUT IT'S TOTALLY UP TO THE DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION. 
          ALRIGHT, MS. BOB, I STAND CONVINCED . 
          SO, UH, SO JUST WHICH I'M SORRY, THINK YOU MIGHT MADE, WHICH OPTION WOULD YOU PREFER? WELL, YOU KNOW, WHICH OPTION? I PREFER , BUT OUT OF THE TWO, OUT OF THE TWO, I, I, I STAND CONVINCED MS. BOBBY THAT WHEN WE GET DOWN TO OUR FINAL TWO OR THREE, WHICHEVER YOU DECIDE THAT WE'LL TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          AND ALSO AS A PART OF YOUR PACKET TONIGHT, YOU DO HAVE A FEW THINGS. 
          YOU HAVE THE DASHBOARD FROM THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT PLATFORM DEMAND STAR. 
          UH, AGAIN, THIS IS AS OF THURSDAY AND YOU SEE WE HAVE 25 PLAN HOLDERS. 
          WE ACTUALLY SENT OUT THE SOLICITATION TO OVER 800, UH, SUPPLIERS OR 800 FIRMS. AND, BUT, BUT THEN AGAIN, AS OF TONIGHT, I CHECKED, UM, THE SYSTEM ABOUT 28 PLAN HOLDERS. 
          ADDITIONALLY, AS PART OF THE PACKET, YOU HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE, UH, THE 25 COMPANIES OR FIRMS THAT DID DOWNLOAD THE, UH, SOLICITATION AS A PART OF YOUR PACKET. 
          AND BECAUSE WE ARE IN A CONE OF SILENCE AND, UH, SOME OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS ARE LIMITED, THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE IS STRICTLY JUST THE NAME AND THEN ANY, UH, ATTRIBUTES FOR, FOR THAT PARTICULAR FIRM. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MS. BOB. 
          AND, AND NEXT WEEK, UH, ON JULY 2ND AT 10:30 AM WE WILL BE DECLARING 
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THE SOLICITATION CLOSE AND WE'LL OPEN UP THE PROPOSALS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE MOVING ALONG VERY, VERY SMOOTHLY FROM THIS POINT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM MAN. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          NEXT ITEM 
          [M.  DISCUSSION REGARDING RENAMING A STREET AFTER BOYD ANDERSON HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, MR. JAMES GRIFFIN (SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER HARRISON)]
FIVE M DISCUSSION REGARDING RENAMING A STREET AFTER BOYD ANDERSON HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, MR. JAMES GRIFFIN. 
          AND THAT IS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          EXCUSE ME A MOMENT, MADAM. 
          HELLO? CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? HOLD ON A MOMENT. 
          COMMISSIONER HARRISON. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY, SO, UH, THIS IS A ITEM, UM, AND UH, UH, ONE THAT I'VE BEEN CONTEMPLATING ABOUT FOR A WHILE NOW, BUT IN THE LAST DISCUSSION IT WAS MADE MENTION THAT, UM, FACILITIES COVER BOTH OUR PARKS AND AS WELL AS OUR STREETS. 
          SO I FIGURED SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE IT ON THE BOOKS THAT WE CAN RENAME. 
          UM, I THINK, UH, NAMING THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY AFTER PEOPLE WHO'VE DONE OR HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY IS A PLUS. 
          UH, PRINCIPAL GRIFFIN, UH, WHO WE ALL MAY HAVE KNOWN, WHO WE ALL MAY KNOW AS THE PRINCIPAL OF BOY ANDERSON HIGH SCHOOL HERE IN LAUDERDALE LAKES. 
          UH, HE WAS THE FORMER PRINCIPAL OF LAUDERDALE LAKES MIDDLE SCHOOL. 
          AND HIS LEADERSHIP FROM THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL HAS BROUGHT HIM TO THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL. 
          AND WORDS JUST CAN'T EXPRESS THE TYPE OF INGENUITY AND CREATIVITY AND HOW PRINCIPAL GRIFFIN GOES ABOUT THE STUDENT EXPERIENCE OVER AT, UH, BOYD ANDERSON HIGH SCHOOL. 
          UM, SO I WANTED TO BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND, UH, TO SEE IF WE'D BE OPEN TO COMMEMORATING WHAT HE'S CONTRIBUTED TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, BY DEDICATING A STREET NAME, UH, AFTER HIM, COLLEAGUES, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILLIAMS. THERE IS NOT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. 
          MADAM MAYOR. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          COUNCIL COMMISSIONER THOMAS. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. 
          YES, I'M ASKING, UM, JUST TO GET CLARIFICATION, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO A STREET IS NAMED, UM, ALL FOUR, UM, MR.  NAME OF THE STREET, BUT DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO LIVE IN THE CITY IN ORDER TO BE NAMED? I'M NOT SURE IF MR. GRARD LIVES IN THE CITY. 
          I JUST NEED CLARIFICATION ON THAT. 
          PLEASE, MANAGER, MR. DIS BRU, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO, TO THIS ITEM AS IT RELATES TO RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT FOR RENAMING OF BOYD ANDERSON HIGH SCHOOL. 
          UH, I'M SORRY, THE PRINCIPAL, UH, PROGRESS ESTABLISHED, UH, BEFORE YOU, UM, GIVE INFORMATION, MR. RON. 
          WELL, YOU DO KNOW WE RENAMED 43RD AFTER REPRESENTATIVE SIE HASTINGS, WHO WAS NOT A RESIDENCE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMAS'S QUESTION, BUT COMMISSIONER THOMAS, WOULD YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION PLEASE? ? YES. 
          I'M SAYING DOES THE, PER I UNDERSTAND WITH HAS, AND DEAN, HE WAS A CONGRESSIONAL, I DON'T KNOW OF SOMEONE THAT LIVES IN THE CITY, SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT LIVE IN THE CITY THAT'S NOT A CONGRESSIONAL LAW, AND THEY, CAN HE NAME SOMETHING AFTER  OR FOR THE BACKGROUND NOISE? MR. RON, YOU HAVE A RESPONSE? UM, REMIND MAY, I WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW THE AUDIENCE CLOSE CLOSELY, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S A SPECIFIC CLAUSE FOR RESIDENCY AND THE CURRENT AUDIENCE, BUT I WOULD'VE TO PROBABLY TAKE A LOOK AT IT AGAIN, MR. RON. 
          WE'LL RESEARCH THAT FURTHER FOR US. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? CITY ATTORNEY? NO CITY ATTORNEY. 
          I'M WONDERING WHY THE, WHY WE'RE ASKING THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR LEGAL QUESTIONS. 
          BIZARRE. 
          OH DEAR. 
          UH, UM, TO, TO YOU MADAM MAYOR, I, WHEN I READ THE ORDINANCE TO, UH, APPOINT, UM, TO HAVE THE BUILDING, THERE'S SOME WORDING ABOUT, UM, DOING THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY, MAKING AN IMPACT. 
          I AM, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE, UM, WHAT MR. THE, UM, PRINCIPAL, I KNOW HE STATED THAT HE MOVED FROM ONE SCHOOL TO THE NEXT, BUT WHAT DOES, WHAT IMPACT HE MADE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES ON, ON AND IT'S RESIDENTS? SO I'M, I'M NOT SURE. 
          SO IF WE CAN RESEARCH, I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR GIVING EVERYONE THEIR FLOWERS WHILE THEY'RE STILL AROUND, BUT WE, 
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YOU KNOW, IF THEY WARRANT IT, IT'S, I'M ALL, I'M ALL FOR IT. 
          BUT LET'S SEE EXACTLY WHAT OUR ORDINANCE SAYS. 
          ATTORNEY CALLAWAY, THERE WAS SOME WORD. 
          YES. 
          MAD MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS TO THE QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER THOMAS UNDER SECTION TWO DASH 4 92 RELATING TO POLICY AS IT REGARDS THE NAMING OF FACILITIES, UH, THE, UH, ORDINANCE EXPRESSES A COMMISSION POLICY. 
          IT SHALL BE THE POLICY OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE NAMES, THE NAME OF, AND INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE MADE A LASTING, SIGNIFICANT HUMANITARIAN OR EXTRAORDINARY CONTRIBUTION ON THE LOCAL, STATE, OR NATIONAL LEVEL THROUGH MANY YEARS OF SERVICE OR INDIVIDUALS WHOSE SINGLE ACTION OR ACHIEVEMENT CONVEYS GREAT CREDIT AND RECOGNITION TO THE CITY. 
          FURTHER SUCH INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING ORGANIZATIONS OR CORPORATE ENTITIES WHO HAVE PROVIDED IN VALUABLE SERVICES TO THE CITY AND WHOSE LOCATION IN THE CITY IS OF SUCH IMPORTANCE AS TO BRING CREDIT AND RECOGNITION TO THE CITY, MAY BE EQUALLY HONORED AND RECOGNIZED PROVIDED. 
          HOWEVER, IN THE CASE OF AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS NOT AN ORGAN ORGANIZED ORGANIZATION OR UH, CORPORATE ENTITY, UH, NO SUCH INDIVIDUAL SHALL BE CONSIDERED, UH, THAT'S REFERENCED TO A EXPIRED PORTION OF, OF THE CODE. 
          BUT THE POLICY IS AS I'VE EXPRESSED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER INPUT? NO, THERE ARE NOT BEING ANY MADAM MANAGER. 
          YEAH, THAT EX THAT CONCLUDES THE WORKSHOP AGENDA ITEM, MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. 
          GOODNIGHT.
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